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    How Much Does X51 Cost Porsche?

    Forget the C-fiber trim and other frills, how much more does it cost Porsche to add the extra HP in X51?

    Like alot of guys I'm getting peeved that 400 and 500 hp is becoming "commonplace" with the 997's competition (M3, M4, M5 corvette, etc).

    I'm "expecting" major HP to come from Porsche in the years ahead and wonder if it really costs alot for Porsche to add it to their cars. What ARE the technical/cost obstacles really?

    Would it be impossible to do "cheaply" or do they have to develop a flat 8 or something like radically new like that? I assume half of the extra cost of the turbo is to cover warrenty repair for blown engines?

    Please explain the technical/cost aspects of HP limitations. Marketing stuff I get (i.e. "just be stingy w/ hp and people will still buy..., for now.")

    Re: How Much Does X51 Cost Porsche?

    How much does it cost any manufacturer to build a car? Do you really think it costs Porsche more than $30,000 to build a 911? And are the M3/M5 really 911 competition? In price only. The Corvette arguably is a competitor, but again, drive one, and tell me it still is competition.

    I agree, more power is always good, but who can win a horsepower war? There will always be a manufacturer introducing a bigger HP car, but it still won't be able to stop or turn like a Porsche. Or weigh as (comparatively) little as a Porsche. I'll take my 3,200 pound car with 355 HP over a 4,000 pound car with 400.

    Re: How Much Does X51 Cost Porsche?

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    intheloop said:
    How much does it cost any manufacturer to build a car? Do you really think it costs Porsche more than $30,000 to build a 911? And are the M3/M5 really 911 competition? In price only. The Corvette arguably is a competitor, but again, drive one, and tell me it still is competition.

    I agree, more power is always good, but who can win a horsepower war? There will always be a manufacturer introducing a bigger HP car, but it still won't be able to stop or turn like a Porsche. Or weigh as (comparatively) little as a Porsche. I'll take my 3,200 pound car with 355 HP over a 4,000 pound car with 400.



    very well said. Additionally, Porsche has always had less hp than the competition, but they always seem to be a little quicker

    Re: How Much Does X51 Cost Porsche?

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    intheloop said:
    How much does it cost any manufacturer to build a car? Do you really think it costs Porsche more than $30,000 to build a 911? And are the M3/M5 really 911 competition? In price only. The Corvette arguably is a competitor, but again, drive one, and tell me it still is competition.





    I drove one and it is still competition. Remember people like different things in cars so there is no one that fits all. The Corvette is a great car just like the Porsche. They are different and for different people.

    Re: How Much Does X51 Cost Porsche?

    MMD why does it matter what it cost Porsche to build a car? Believe me if Porsche came accross a way to build a 997 for 10% less do you think they will drop the price of the car by 10%? I wish they would but I am not holding my breath.

    Re: How Much Does X51 Cost Porsche?

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    bstew said:
    MMD why does it matter what it cost Porsche to build a car? Believe me if Porsche came accross a way to build a 997 for 10% less do you think they will drop the price of the car by 10%? I wish they would but I am not holding my breath.



    Yeah, yer right, good pooint. I often say, in this regard "It costs what people will pay."

    I was "halucinating" thinking Porsche should just add 50 hp to every car and quit getting all this criticism about not having enough HP and seeing thes embarassing videos getting beaten by big-assed M5 and M6s.

    355hp in my S is embarassing to me now (winter blues/blahhhs?). I've owned porsches a few times in my past 25 years of driving. Don't care about "it's great in twisties" defense of lesser hp car. Now I gotta buy the (extreme profit margin?) turbo.

    Re: How Much Does X51 Cost Porsche?

    I don't know how much the X51 cost, but I can tell you that it doesn't give you much money back when you're selling.

    I have stopped chasing this HP war long time ago. There is always cars out there that has more HP than me (but the cars may not necessarily be better).

    In terms of HP war, nothing can beat the AMG division of Mercedes. Over 600HP in the S-class sedan is crazy, but it may not necessarily has the chassis and suspension to match up to its HP.

     
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