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    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    John H:

    For anyone who didn't watch the Indy 500 live - this crash happened while Alonso was leading the race.

    I've no idea how it didn't lead to a fatality - perhaps the most horrific crash I've ever seen live... angel

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHdYvq-x2-8

    I couldn't believe he was OK after that, just goes to show how they build those Indy cars and design the track too.... amazing.


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    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    That could easily been a fatality. Dixon was super luck that the car didn't rotate another 10 degrees or so. The side body work took the impact instead of his head on the guard rail.

     

     


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    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Carlos from Spain:
    Whoopsy:

    Mighty impressive on how Alonso ran Indy. Perhaps he should consider a full time move.

    He has been offered to come back next year and do the whole championship... if next year in F1 looks as bleak as this one I would do it if I were him. He doesn't need the money since he is still the most paid driver in F1, and he doesn't have many years left  in peak form. He needs to come back to being able to fight to win, if he still doesn't have the car to do it in F1, why not Indy... the fans really welcomed him at Indy500, though sometimes it was as if the other 32 drivers didn't exist which is not fair, but that is probably the first year only.

     

    Most teams and cars at the Indy series actually have a chance to win every week. Chassis and engines are pretty standard, it's the drivers' skill, car setup and bit of race luck that determines winners, unlike in F1 where at most there are 3 cars that's capable of winning. 

     


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    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    We have to say that Dallara is to thank for that he is still alive....


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    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Tony Kanaan responded to Hamilton in the post Indy500 race dinner, Hamilton had put the quality of the Indy pilots in question with some smart remarks of the likes that if Alonso did so good without ever driving an Indycar then that says a lot of the level of the competition there, anyways, Kanaan in front of everybody in the dinner refereed to Hamilton saying:

     "the guy competed las year in a two car championship and came in second, I don't think he can say much" 

    OWNED 

     

     


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    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    That's a good one. indecision


    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    kiss


    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Alonso sounded very sure of his possibilities towards the end of the race when speaking with his "spotter" via radio ... he just forgot he was driving a Honda 

     


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    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Carlos from Spain:

    Tony Kanaan responded to Hamilton in the post Indy500 race dinner, Hamilton had put the quality of the Indy pilots in question with some smart remarks of the likes that if Alonso did so good without ever driving an Indycar then that says a lot of the level of the competition there, anyways, Kanaan in front of everybody in the dinner refereed to Hamilton saying:

     "the guy competed las year in a two car championship and came in second, I don't think he can say much" 

    OWNED 

    That's hilarious.. SmileySmiley


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    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    More reaction to Lew Ham's comments about Indy:

    https://streamable.com/fn5p9

     


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    Had a chat over the weekend with Jacque Villeneuve about Monaco and Indy. He was mighty impressed with Alonso's showing at Indy, he figures Alonso should move to the Indy series full time, better competition for him. There is nothing left to prove for Alonso in F1. 


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    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Interesting. Alonso said he will wait till summer break to decide what he will do next year. If he doesn't get a seat on a car that can fight to win, he should move to Indy IMO. You could see he was really grateful of how they welcomed him at Indy and the fans so maybe... he also said that if for example the current owners of F1 carryout their opinion that the championship should move to 25 races per season instead of the already 20, that he will leave F1 for example, also that the decaf cars in F1 do not excite him like they used to, so he is not happy with the direction of F1 anyways.


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    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    JoeRockhead:

    More reaction to Lew Ham's comments about Indy:

    https://streamable.com/fn5p9

     

    Hamilton set himself up for that one, he is the last person to criticize competition in other categories...


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    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    @CoS

    sure his comments where not the smartest but he's damm true, no US race driver in the last 20 years was able to keep up with the F1 drivers, not even in WRC a superstar like Ken Block was near to compete on the same level as Sebastians (Loeb & Ogier) & Co...

    The only Indycar drivers who were competitive have been JV & JPM, Takuma Sato was since ever a nice guy (and the best Asian driver so far @F1), but far to be a winner resp. a true champ!

    Regarding LH no one can doubt his great talent and sheer speed, he showed since day 1 @F1 that he matches FA easily


    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Yet he ran a two car championship and a guy like Rosberg beat him at it... While it may be true that F1 may have more elite competition than Indy, Hamilton is the last one to talk about competition, and there is actually more driver competition in Indy, is a bit hypocritical to talk about lack of competitive level of other drivers when you are racing with a car that does not allow anybody to actually against you save your teammate. He should have keep quiet and be more humble.


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    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    LH is quick but does he have the in Race Craft of SV and FA. I think SV is showing his smartness during the races now. He showed that (if I remember correctly) when he kept out of the dirty air of KR for the fist 20 laps or so of the Monaco GP. Then KR goes in for his pit stop and Vett then pumped in those quick laps because he saved his tyres when he was in second place to allow himself to come out of his pit stop in 1st place.. Thats the way i saw it anyhow, very patient and smart. kiss..


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    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    @CoS

    Nicole (Rosberg) only won because he had way less technical failures on his car than Lewis! On top of this Lewis had to catch up right after race one what brought him on the back foot since the beginning of the season.

    That forced LH even more to risk a lot and to push his car to its limits, but everyone knows these facts, Rosberg was the golden child to sit at the right time in the right car (like SV did in the Red Bulls)...

     

    @throt

    sorry, but that's a wrong perception, KR has been ripped off the victory with that (stupid) early pitstop, that's all!

    Look at RedBull and Merc, in each cases the last stopper gained advantage out of it.

     


    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Lord_Driftalot:..............

    Regarding LH no one can doubt his great talent and sheer speed, he showed since day 1 @F1 that he matches FA easily

    Matches him, yes.  Able to beat him, not so much.  Smiley


    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Lord_Driftalot:

    Regarding LH no one can doubt his great talent and sheer speed, he showed since day 1 @F1 that he matches FA easily

    The qualifying in Monte Carlo shows that Hamilton is also a human being. Talented but there are also other talented drivers. At the peak competition is very tough (which is good for the audience) Smiley


    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    @Gladstone

    When did FA beat LH? Even as rookie LH beat him in his first year in the same team, soyes

    @MKSGR

    LH qualy performance was rather poor but his starting position was influenced by the accident of Van Doorne, keeping his great race performance in mind he should have be at least 4/5th...


    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Lord_Driftalot:

    @throt

    sorry, but that's a wrong perception, KR has been ripped off the victory with that (stupid) early pitstop, that's all!

    Look at RedBull and Merc, in each cases the last stopper gained advantage out of it.

     

    Maybe the wrong time to pit KR, but Vett whacked in those cracking lap times when he was in to put him in 1st just ahead when he came out. KR should have pushed on from lap one to give him a cushion to allow for this. And I would like to add that I would have loved Kimi to win that race too..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    Lord_Driftalot:

    @Gladstone

    When did FA beat LH? Even as rookie LH beat him in his first year in the same team, soyes

    I thought they ended that season with the same points, so LH did not beat him.


    Re: 2017 Monaco F1 Grand Prix

    @gladstone

    LH beat FA even having scored the same points as he had the better finishes over all...

    ->  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Formula_One_season#Drivers


     
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