CloseWhoopsy:nberry:What was the Ring time for the 720S? It was 7:14. Even the GT3.2 beat it with time of 7:12.
For some unknown reasons McLaren's don't seem to be able to do good laps at the Ring. Even the mighty P1 failed to crack 7 mins.
Sport Auto will publish 720s Supertest soon. Numbers are pretty good...
Grant:Mikla:4 sec difference in 0-300 is embarrassing. True that the RS wing is an anchor, but....
That active wing on the Macs makes a huge difference in straight line. I would expect 992 may address this...
You know the active wing on the 720S deploys about 50% when you go over about 80mph I don't think there is a way to shut it off.... I think the aero/wing stuff may be a red herring, it will be interesting to see the SA 720 supertest which should show some measured aero numbers 
997 GT2 2014 3.9 Mezger, 800PS @ 1.2 bar
2018 McLaren 720S
993 Turbo, 2006 built 3.8, 577PS/797NM, 1440kg DIN sold to a worthy enthusiast.
200-0 kph in 115m...
That is 10m shorter than with the GT2RS.
Also, reading the text the GT2RS seems to be inferior in terms of handling as well.
All in all this test is a disaster for the GT2RS. We are talking about a comparison with McLarens standard car...
Am I the only one thinking that these critics are like nitpicking? Reading the posts here makes you think the GT2RS is trash. So what if one single car is better ? It’s still a super nice car and there’s nothing else from Porsche atm. Where’s the love for Porsche 
2018 White 911 GT3
From me for example? No love for Porsche sport cars. They don’t build anything that ticks the boxes...
But there are three categories of happy buyers now for that category:
- track junkies (as many here)
- free loaders who get to drive a car for free (until they get burned one day)
- people looking for a comfy sport car with a luxury badge, convertible or not and the possibly of rear seats (many here too, I used to be one of them until we could get more exotic and unique cars, but prices are creeping up narrowing the customer base)
Just read the article in AMS (german) well this is something for a German carmagazine! Not only the fact that the 720S is faster and easier car to drive. But they find the GT2RS not easy to handle. But at then end. in 10 years time the GT2RS will be worth more money!
Boyko23:It’s funny how some people are ready to bash Porsche when loose in a single test and clamp with hands, when breaking records here and there…
I expect the second scenario in several weeks’ time, when we have more H2H’s…
Because a lot of us think the records are being broken by Michelin more so than Porsche. Just like Lamborghini and their records.
The 918 was just awesome. Didn't have any indication of trick tires and was just fast, always, everywhere. Lately, however, VAG seems to pump out record breakers non-stop and they all use fancy new tires that may or may not even be available.
I mean, I still waiting to see an Aventador SV best anything in a H2H given its impressive Ring time...
For reference, someone said (though I didn't see the article) that the Cup2 R have cold stopping distance of like 41m from 100-0. If that's true, I can only imagine what it's like to drive on normal roads in the cold and/or wet...
pmarkow:very embarrassing for porsche. seems the 911 concept is just getting to its end....
No, it doesn't...they just work with minimal budget to achieve maximum performance and of course...maximum profit.
Porsche needs to get away from these fixed minimum profit margins, especially on benchmark and halo cars.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)
RC:pmarkow:very embarrassing for porsche. seems the 911 concept is just getting to its end....
No, it doesn't...they just work with minimal budget to achieve maximum performance and of course...maximum profit.
Porsche needs to get away from these fixed minimum profit margins, especially on benchmark and halo cars.
they won't. so you just confirmed what i said.
pmarkow:RC:pmarkow:very embarrassing for porsche. seems the 911 concept is just getting to its end....
No, it doesn't...they just work with minimal budget to achieve maximum performance and of course...maximum profit.
Porsche needs to get away from these fixed minimum profit margins, especially on benchmark and halo cars.
they won't. so you just confirmed what i said.
Did the water tank do any good ? or do they have an optional CF tank that can hold another 90L for an extra $10,000 ? 
Porsche has become to greedy and has forgotten what it once used to be, all they care about is making $$$ out of every single option they could come up with 
I don't expect them to perform better with future cars + extra weight they'll be carrying. They're turning into the next Nissan GTR without realizing it.
I can get a slightly decently specced 720S at around 260k. Nothing fancy but the performance is there.
To achieve the same with a GT2 RS, I need to pay at least 40k more....for less performance. 
If you get one... 
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)
He can't dump the Audi. He is the Audi. I believe RC and the R8 have become one. A single entity. No longer separable. To separate them is to kill them.
The time to buy the 720S coupe will be right when the idea of the Spider starts gaining some traction I think.
noone1:He can't dump the Audi. He is the Audi. I believe RC and the R8 have become one. A single entity. No longer separable. To separate them is to kill them.
Believe it or not but there is some truth in it, I never loved a car that much, even more now with the new wheels and the Cup 2 (as long it is warm and dry outside).
The time to buy the 720S coupe will be right when the idea of the Spider starts gaining some traction I think.
The 720S is really an interesting car for me, seriously but I cannot afford it (yet). Maybe I'll go for that 600LT at some point, you never know. Sometimes McLaren offers some good lease offers over here but haven't seen any for the 720S yet (mostly 570S).
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)
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