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    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    I expect that besides the 4.0l engine and 500 hp, the GT3 RS LE will have less weight thanks to the carbon fiber parts used on the GT2RS. In addition, I expect the modifications to the GT2RS suspsension (solid bushings, etc...) will cary over as well. I have also heard Porsche will improve the areo/downforce package. If I was in the market for a new Porsche, this would be it.


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    Yeah, I don't see how this car could be anything but awesome if it has 4.0L Metzger motor, Manual 6-spd, >500hp and better suspension with less weight.  They'd have to try hard to screw it up.  It should be an enduring classic afaik...


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs).  Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550 Maranello


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    heard that the price is 220k EUR's ish.... -


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    BjoernB:

    heard that the price is 220k EUR's ish.... -


    I wouldn't be surprised if that rumour was true. Smiley
     


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    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    I'll pass


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    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    savvy: Witness the same old GKN Limited Slip Differentials in the GT3's that become useless after one track day.
    PCCB that bevel wear their pads so badly the backing plates go into the rotors and the wear indicator never activates, engine coolant fittings that lose their adhesive-only grip, pop out, and spin a driver instantly on track.

    Hope they prove me wrong.But so far they simply don't seem to care?

    GKN Limited Slip Diff problem, could you elaborate more on that, what exactly is the issue?

    Re PCCB's, did Porsche take care of that problem for you (on warranty)?

    As for the coolant fittings, how did Porsche fix this issue for you?

    Thanks and happy Thanksgiving!


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    LSD, long time problem, well documented, ignored by Porsche:

    http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/540804-lsd-buster.html

    http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/578089-lsd-guarantee.html

    http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/568017-lsd.html

    http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/560081-3-track-days-toasted-lsd-on-gt2-need-advice.html

    PCCB issues, long time problem, well documented, ignored by Porsche:

    http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/596740-pads-on-pccb-gone-at-track-be-aware-of-tapering-wear.html

    http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/590789-porsche-pccb-brake-pad-wear-what-the-frick.html

    Coolant Fittings, long time, potentially deadly problem, well documented, ignored by Porsche:

    http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/570497-catastrophic-coolant-loss-causes-spin-at-mosport.html

    http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/592328-catastrophic-coolant-hose-coupling-failure-registry.html

    http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/591846-track-monkeys-get-your-coolant-lines-checked.html

    http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/566412-solution-for-coolant-press-fitting-and-water-pump-failure-pics.ht...

    http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/427164-my-rs-dumped-its-coolant-today.html

    Question is, did Porsche address these well know problem areas with the new GT2RS? The forth coming GT3 Limited Edition? Or are they just continuing to ignore and depositing profits into the bank? Customers deserve an explanation and a fix!


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    Thanks for the links and sorry for being such a newbie. Smiley

    So, who already has money down for the 4.0 RS?


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    Pilot:

    Thanks for the links and sorry for being such a newbie. Smiley

    So, who already has money down for the 4.0 RS?


    They won't take money but names yes.

    Seems this car is not so much a secret anymore, I am hugely excited and plan on getting one!Smiley

     


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    I have. Left a €10k deposit to pre order the car. 

    They didn't give me more details than what is said around here. They told me to expect a price of c. €200k.

     

     

     

     


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    It sounds like the rumoured GT3 RS 4.0-litre will be the homologation road-car for the 2011 Porsche 911 GT3 RSR, just announced by Porsche...

    P10_0737.jpg

     

    Technical description Porsche GT3 RSR (2011 model year)

    Engine

    Water-cooled six-cylinder boxer engine
    Displacement: 3,996 cc
    Stroke: 80.4 mm
    Bore: 102.7 mm
    Power: 455 hp (335 kW) at 7,800 rpm
    Max Torque: 450 Nm
    Air restrictors: 2 x 28.6 mm
    Max Revs: 9,400 rpm
    Four valve technology
    Dry sump lubrication
    Individual throttle butterflies
    Fuel injection

    Transmission

    Porsche six-speed gearbox with sequential jaw-type shift; oil/water heat exchanger, single-mass flywheel; hydraulic disengagement lever; three-plate carbon-fibre clutch; rear wheel drive; limited slip differential 45/65 percent.

    Body

    Monocoque body (basis GT3 RS) of hot-galvanised steel; aerodynamically optimised front end with front spoiler; aerodynamically optimised front underfloor; adjustable rear wing; 90-litre FT3 safety fuel tank with fast filling function; air jack; welded-in safety cage; race seat (driver’s side only) with flame retardant upholstery; six-point seat belt adapted for use of the HANS Head and Neck Support; electric fire extinguishing system.

    Suspension

    Front axle: McPherson spring strut axle; Sachs four-way gas pressure dampers; double coil springs (main and auxiliary); front axle arms adjustable for camber; adjustable sword-type anti-roll bar; power steering.

    Rear: Multi-arm axle with rigidly mounted axle sub-frame; Sachs four-way gas pressure dampers; double coil springs (main and auxiliary); rear axle tie-bar reinforced and infinitely adjustable; adjustable sword-type anti-roll bar. Complete suspension infinitely adjustable (height, camber, track).

    Brake system

    Brake system with balance bar control.

    Front: Single-piece six-piston aluminium fixed callipers; inner vented, 380 mm diameter; racing brake pads.

    Rear: Single-piece four-piston aluminium fixed callipers; inner vented, 355 mm diameter; racing brake pads.

    Wheels

    Front: Three-piece BBS light-alloy wheels (12J x 18 ET 34); central bolt.
    Rear: Three-piece BBS light-alloy wheels (13J x 18 ET 12.5); central bolt.

    Electrical system

    Motec display with integrated data recording; multi-function display with integrated gearshift indicator; adjustable traction control; battery: 12 volt, 80 Ah, 140 Ah alternator.

    Weight: 1,220 kg

    P10_0735.jpg

     

    P10_0728.jpg

    2011-Porsche-911-GT3-RSR_Rennteam-link

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    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

     Interesting thank you Spyder Idol !

    The question is to know if the air restrictors have an effect on the torque of the engine ?


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    Yes, air restrictors will definitely affect torque (more at high engine speeds than low).  The peak torque may not be affected much, but the torque curve will have inevitably less area under the curve.


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs).  Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550 Maranello


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    Any clue how much the RSR engine puts out without air restrictors?


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    Porker:

    Any clue how much the RSR engine puts out without air restrictors?

    I heard once that it was WAY over 500hp (maybe close to the 600hp range).  When you spin to 9,400rpm without restrictors and with Individual Throttle Butterflies and very high compression (race fuel required), you can make a bunch of power.

    The street version should make over 500hp without restrictors, a more reasonable redline, and without race fuel fairly conservatively.


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs).  Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550 Maranello


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    One interpretation of a Porsche 911 GT3 RSR road car...

    Porsche-911-GT3-RSR-roadcar_01.jpg

    Porsche-911-GT3-RSR-roadcar_02.jpg

    ...let's hope the GT3 RS 4.0-litre has some real W-I-D-E wheel arch extensions like the new GT3 RSR!

    P10_0735.jpg

    P10_0738.jpg

    P10_0728.jpg

    P10_0737.jpg

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    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    It sounds like the rumoured GT3 RS 4.0-litre will be the homologation road-car for the 2011 Porsche 911 GT3 RSR, just announced by Porsche...

    P10_0737.jpg

     

    Technical description Porsche GT3 RSR (2011 model year)

    Engine

    Water-cooled six-cylinder boxer engine
    Displacement: 3,996 cc
    Stroke: 80.4 mm
    Bore: 102.7 mm
    Power: 455 hp (335 kW) at 7,800 rpm
    Max Torque: 450 Nm
    Air restrictors: 2 x 28.6 mm
    Max Revs: 9,400 rpm
    Four valve technology
    Dry sump lubrication
    Individual throttle butterflies
    Fuel injection

    Transmission

    Porsche six-speed gearbox with sequential jaw-type shift; oil/water heat exchanger, single-mass flywheel; hydraulic disengagement lever; three-plate carbon-fibre clutch; rear wheel drive; limited slip differential 45/65 percent.

    Body

    Monocoque body (basis GT3 RS) of hot-galvanised steel; aerodynamically optimised front end with front spoiler; aerodynamically optimised front underfloor; adjustable rear wing; 90-litre FT3 safety fuel tank with fast filling function; air jack; welded-in safety cage; race seat (driver’s side only) with flame retardant upholstery; six-point seat belt adapted for use of the HANS Head and Neck Support; electric fire extinguishing system.

    Suspension

    Front axle: McPherson spring strut axle; Sachs four-way gas pressure dampers; double coil springs (main and auxiliary); front axle arms adjustable for camber; adjustable sword-type anti-roll bar; power steering.

    Rear: Multi-arm axle with rigidly mounted axle sub-frame; Sachs four-way gas pressure dampers; double coil springs (main and auxiliary); rear axle tie-bar reinforced and infinitely adjustable; adjustable sword-type anti-roll bar. Complete suspension infinitely adjustable (height, camber, track).

    Brake system

    Brake system with balance bar control.

    Front: Single-piece six-piston aluminium fixed callipers; inner vented, 380 mm diameter; racing brake pads.

    Rear: Single-piece four-piston aluminium fixed callipers; inner vented, 355 mm diameter; racing brake pads.

    Wheels

    Front: Three-piece BBS light-alloy wheels (12J x 18 ET 34); central bolt.
    Rear: Three-piece BBS light-alloy wheels (13J x 18 ET 12.5); central bolt.

    Electrical system

    Motec display with integrated data recording; multi-function display with integrated gearshift indicator; adjustable traction control; battery: 12 volt, 80 Ah, 140 Ah alternator.

    Weight: 1,220 kg

    P10_0735.jpg

     

    P10_0728.jpg

    2011-Porsche-911-GT3-RSR_Rennteam-link

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     2012-Porsche-911-GT3-RS-4-litre_Evo-article.jpg

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    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    It will indeed be something special but believe it or not, I didn't get any rumor yet regarding technical specs, which is weird (considering our contacts). Which leads me to believe that the specs aren't final yet. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

     RC - if you hear anything, keep us posted.  The silence by Porsche is deafening!


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    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

     This rumor started a while back on Teamspeed.com.  Here is a rendering I made a while back when the rumors first surfaced. I think it will be called the Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0.


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    Carrara:

     This rumor started a while back on Teamspeed.com.  Here is a rendering I made a while back when the rumors first surfaced. I think it will be called the Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0.

     

    No, it didn't and please stop advertising other forums. Thank you. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

     Woops, sorry about that RC. I thought that was the image with out the watermarks.


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

     Seems that April 7th is the day for this car !?

    http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2011/03/porsche-gt3-rs-4-0l-limited-edition-to-bow-april-7th.html


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    So far we can't publish any detail for various reasons.

    Don't expect something completely new but a lot of tweaks of current technology.

    I think I can say one thing for sure though without putting anybody in trouble: Expect a price tag beyond good and evil...even compared to the last GT3 RS. 

     


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    RC:

    I think I can say one thing for sure though without putting anybody in trouble: Expect a price tag beyond good and evil...even compared to the last GT3 RS.  

     Does this mean...a high price tag?  Please clarify?  About 200k USD (or 150k Euro) is the ballpark right now...  Thanks!


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    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    150k EUR? Dream on... 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    RC:

    150k EUR? Dream on... 

    Excluding VAT of course...


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    '05 CT | '08 R32 | '08 ///M3 | '10 GT3 RS


    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    RC:

    150k EUR? Dream on... 


    I guess the already rumoured >200k Euro base price (à la Speedster or Sport Classic) could be accurate.
     


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    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    Evo magazine interview with Wolfgang Hatz, the new head of R&D at Porsche...

    Porsche-Engine-Future_Wolfgang-Hatz_Evo-magazine_Rennteam.jpg

    Q) Talking about the GT3, what's this 4-litre GT3 RS we keep hearing about?

    "There will be something coming out soon and it is very special and will be a good success. For me, the GT3 is the most emotional 911 of all and this new version is even more emotional. It will be the last evolution of the current engine..."

    - Wolfgang Hatz, Head of R&D, Porsche

    2012-Porsche-911-GT3-RS-4-litre_Evo-magazine_Rennteam.JPG

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    Re: Limited edition GT3 RS rumor

    A430v:
    RC:

    I think I can say one thing for sure though without putting anybody in trouble: Expect a price tag beyond good and evil...even compared to the last GT3 RS.  

     Does this mean...a high price tag?  Please clarify?  About 200k USD (or 150k Euro) is the ballpark right now...  Thanks!

     The German price is Euro 203k incl. VAT.


     
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