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    Dec 29, 2006 11:17:18 AM

    Rossi
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    Winding Road: Nice comparo F430 - 997 Turbo

    As said in the title, the latest issue of Winding Road has a nice article about these two great cars. Fine read.

    Winding Road Issue 17

    Dec 29, 2006 4:39:56 PM

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    Re: Winding Road: Nice comparo F430 - 997 Turbo

    Puff piece, w/usual pleasantries vs both mfrs....difficult to differentiate magazine writer's lack of observational/analytic skills vs conflict-of-interest-derived pleasantries.....

    No critical observations/insights re: such minor issues as PriusTurbo exhaust note in an alleged sportscar (and why no PSE avail yet from profit-driven P?); glaring turbo lag vs claims of "solved" lag; imminent PDK implics for trade-in values (and why the endless delays?...and will PDK 1.0 be as buggy as PCCB 1.0?)....and lack of side/head airbags, weak mid-range tq, reports of alleged post-collision/spontaneous fires, etc....all for well-known cars introduced 6-18 mos and some 7K copies ago....

    Dec 29, 2006 5:50:47 PM

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    Re: Winding Road: Nice comparo F430 - 997 Turbo

    VKSF you take things too seriously, just relax man.

    Dec 29, 2006 7:01:38 PM

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    Re: Winding Road: Nice comparo F430 - 997 Turbo

    Article is OK. Nothing special but, I did not expect any in-depth analysis of both cars downsides(oh yes, they exist!).
    Also remarks about F430 steering as not so direct as 997 turbo's are in category IMHO. Mid-engine sportscars always have little bit less direct steering setup then rear engine Porsche's...
    Any way, article "goes in your head as fast as it gooes out" IMO.

    Jan 3, 2007 2:22:55 PM

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    Re: Winding Road: Nice comparo F430 - 997 Turbo

    Do you have to register or something to get the article?

    btw: Happy New Year Stefan!

    Happy New Year to everyone else too!


    Whoops! Never mind, got it. thanks.

    Jan 3, 2007 2:52:46 PM

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    Re: Winding Road: Nice comparo F430 - 997 Turbo

    Great read. I like the last paragraph. Getting one of each just to see how accurate their comparison's actually are may be necessary.

    Jan 3, 2007 3:28:00 PM

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    Re: Winding Road: Nice comparo F430 - 997 Turbo

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    Great read. I like the last paragraph. Getting one of each just to see how accurate their comparison's actually are may be necessary.



    Well, how long do we have to wait to hear your first-hand report?

    Happy New Year to you as well, Gregg.

    Jan 3, 2007 4:13:25 PM

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    Re: Winding Road: Nice comparo F430 - 997 Turbo

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    Quote:
    STRADALE said:
    Great read. I like the last paragraph. Getting one of each just to see how accurate their comparison's actually are may be necessary.



    Well, how long do we have to wait to hear your first-hand report?

    Happy New Year to you as well, Gregg.




    imho Proper Testing must first start w/ individual cars. Extensive testing on Maranello's machine is currently underway and continued experimentation will hopefully be enough to gather a conclusive data base in which to compare it to the contender from Germany. If conditions are right testing on the Porsche car should start upon the arrival of their cabriolet version perhaps sometime this summer or maybe fall. Upon which time it will also get a full ringing out and then head to head studies in both the laws of physics and the holy schnikies will be conducted in both vehicles.

    Jan 3, 2007 4:40:11 PM

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    Re: Winding Road: Nice comparo F430 - 997 Turbo

    refreshing to read an article that actually enjoys each of them for their individual personalities...without quibbling about .01 seconds here or there in situations where clearily most of us would be in way to deep
     
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