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    Re: Panamera - Not a good start

    With top speed of 300+ Km/h (turbo) - I say , YES  ...  plus , Porsche is of no gimmicks on their car

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    Rossi:
    Ron (Houston):
    The problem is if it malfunctions and doesn't retract the sides when it goes back it will scratch the hell of the paint on the sides.
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    Question is, does a car like the Panamera really need such a "thing"? Smiley


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    All fast cars with a sloping rear need a spoiler to reduce lift or a wing to produce downforce.

    Think of the original Audi TT. They had to hastily fit that little spoiler just after production started because of high speed stability problems.


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    Rossi:
    Ron (Houston):
    The problem is if it malfunctions and doesn't retract the sides when it goes back it will scratch the hell of the paint on the sides.
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    Question is, does a car like the Panamera really need such a "thing"? Smiley


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    Yes, it does. On the other hand just imagine that Porsche would have given the Panamera a FIXED wing. Ouch. I'm already waiting for those who demand a fixed wing or who are asking for the availability of a Panamera aerokit. Smiley

    Porsche needed to introduce the Panamera, it was the right decision. The only problem I have with this decision is SIZE, DESIGN, TIMING of introduction and PRICE TAG.

    Oh well...what do I know...the Cayenne wasn't a beauty queen either and had huge success. I still think that the time isn't right for the Cayenne, it is a HUGE limousine and I can't really see who would buy this in the current economy but maybe Wiedeking and his gang are lucky and the economy recovers much faster in China but I somehow have my doubts about it. 


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    My prediction is , that 20 000 Panameras will be sold in less than 12 months

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    My feelilngs are:

    PRO's: performance and expected handling, interior design and build.

    CON's: its ridiculously butt ugly, huge, pricey, and holds only TWO seats in the rear!

    Will it sell, yes, even if its just for the badge alone it will sell, but nothing close to the Cayenne when it was introduced. I don't see that many potential customers for it as the Cayenne had in its day. But who knows...


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    Some other pictures of Panamera on the street:bild20093689244138823024___porschepanamera241183396.jpg

    the withe one looks quite nice. but on the nex one: look at the size of this thing compared to a SW Passat Smiley

    bild20093389244138827016___porschepanamera161546609.jpg

    even thow after they change the angle it starts to look more proportioned

    bild20093389244138827017___porschepanamera17466359.jpgbild20093389244138827019___porschepanamera191588654.jpgbild20093389244138827021___porschepanamera21518680.jpgbild200911789244138826033___porschepanamera332509000.jpgbild200911789244138826035___porschepanamera353229924.jpgbild2008123189244138828025___porschepanamera252376363.jpg





     


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    Misha011:
    My prediction is , that 20 000 Panameras will be sold in less than 12 months

    Alright my turn: less than 8.000 Panamera a year. Smiley


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    According to my info it really does. That speaks also about aerodynamics little bit... Over 300km/h is not achieved that easy. Pana Turbo needs that ricer like spoiler to produce needed downforce at over 260km/h...

    P.S.

    Saw California today in Grigio Titanio with 20" and chocolato interier. I really hate to say this-I like it. And sound is truly great...


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    ed_moree , you like Panamera in this color (me too) - it's amazing how much different she looks from picture to picture .

    Pana Gnv 12.jpg

    Pana Gnv 11.jpg


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    Misha011:

    ed_moree , you like Panamera in this color (me too) - it's amazing how much different she looks from picture to picture .

    Pana Gnv 12.jpg

    Pana Gnv 11.jpg


            Thanks Misha! Yes a colour that looks modern and classic in the same time!!! It has a shape that it is very interesting, because depending on the place you stay when looking at it, it looks very nice or a bit heavy. In this two pictures I like it in both!


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    Rossi:
    Misha011:
    My prediction is , that 20 000 Panameras will be sold in less than 12 months

    Alright my turn: less than 8.000 Panamera a year. Smiley

     


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    Ok here is mine: exactly 19995/ year Smiley!  I mean no more and no less than that, but because they have been used with the succes of the Cayenne, Porsche will say that it is not enough!

            


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    Well, in the netherlands, you see a lot more SUVs than you see uber limousines. So I guess here the market for a cayenne would be bigger than the market for a panamera?

    -Joost-


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    Topaz Brown again, better pic. Smiley

    pana.png



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    I really have an aversion to those rims!Smiley



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    Rossi:

    Topaz Brown again, better pic. Smiley

    pana.png



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    Thanks Rossi Smiley, I like it.


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    Rossi:

    Topaz Brown again, better pic. Smiley

    pana.png



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    I find it very attractive and imposing!

    It needs maximum wheel diameter though.


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    reginos:

    It needs maximum wheel diameter though.


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    That's right. They should be even bigger than the ones in the pic. Smiley


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    Rossi:

    Topaz Brown again, better pic. Smiley

    pana.png



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    Rossi , thank you for pic. , very very nice color for Panamera - sort of  "Great Gatsby" look . Personally , I would go for it .

    Wheel (s) on pics. below are 20"   255/40 x 20   ttl. dia. 712 mm   side wall 102 mm

    To maintain ttl. dia. of 712 mm       255/35 x 21               711 mm                      89.25  mm

    255/30 x 22               713 mm                      76.5  mm  ???? ride/comfort

    Brown Panamera spotted.JPG

    1236857719211porsche-panamera-gt-017.jpg

    12368583732642hmotq1.jpg


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    With air suspension and selectable suspension modes, the larger rims won't be a problem IMO. 
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    Re: Panamera - Not a good start

    Rossi:

    Topaz Brown again, better pic. Smiley

    pana.png



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    Please guys... not again that colour!... It is soo old and so grand dad´s days time colour!!! SmileySmiley


            


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    The colour options are splendid!. I absolutely adore this car now.

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    reginos , you are right , but IMO anything bigger than 21 would look inappropriate in style, on car like this .

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    ed_moree:
    Rossi:

    Topaz Brown again, better pic. Smiley

    pana.png



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    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

    Please guys... not again that colour!... It is soo old and so grand dad´s days time colour!!! SmileySmiley



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    Ohh , ed_moree - you will get gray hair prematurely  Smiley Smiley

    " ALL PORSCHE ARE REAL PORSCHE - except those in Topaz Brown metalic "  Smiley


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    Are color options anywhere on the Web, or car configurators?


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    Misha011:
    ed_moree:
    Rossi:

    Topaz Brown again, better pic. Smiley

    pana.png



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    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

    Please guys... not again that colour!... It is soo old and so grand dad´s days time colour!!! SmileySmiley



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    ALL PORSCHE ARE REAL PORSCHE!!!

    Ohh , ed_moree - you will get gray hair prematurely  Smiley Smiley

    " ALL PORSCHE ARE REAL PORSCHE - except those in Topaz Brown metalic "  Smiley


    something like this:

    Mr_six_old_guy_lg.jpg
     "yes sun, I´ve just got a nice brown...Panamera!!!!"

     

    And all this it will be your fault and Rossi´s for posting this old...old colour...for such a nice car..SmileySmiley    Smiley 

     Keep doing it. I don´t care! but I will start a new thread where all topaz brown Panameras will be banned...


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    am I going to be stoned in this thread if i just come out and say I dont like how it looks?, my opinion has not changed since the mules. this thing is ugly !

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    ed_moree:

    And all this it will be your fault and Rossi´s for posting this old...old colour...for such a nice car..SmileySmiley Smiley


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    Well, I can live with that. Perfectly. Smiley


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    ed_moree ,

    It was Ron(Houston) who started it .. acctualy his Dad ( and lets not forget that guy from ABBA ) and then Rossi and I get in Smiley Smiley

    Smiley





    Re: Panamera - Not a good start

    Rossi:

    Topaz Brown again, better pic. Smiley

    pana.png



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    Finally a picture on which the car looks hot. Smiley


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    Rossi:
    ed_moree:

    And all this it will be your fault and Rossi´s for posting this old...old colour...for such a nice car..SmileySmiley Smiley


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    Well, I can live with that. Perfectly. Smiley


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            with what buying the Panamera in that colour? Please don´t do it!!!


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