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    2012 GT3 R to feature paddle shift & 500hp

    From 9Magazine:
     

    For the 2012 season Porsche has upgraded the 911 GT3 R, adding a further 20 bhp (now 500 bhp), providing steering wheel mounted paddle-shifts, a softer anti-roll bar on the front axle to reduce understeer and an automatic throttle blip control, making it almost impossible to miss a gear and over-rev the engine. The new 911 GT3 R remains based on the 997 platform rather than the latest 991.

     
    Paddle-shifts on the steering wheel ensure gear changes are even quicker and simpler, making it easier for pilots to concentrate on braking. Moreover, the transmission electronics, featuring an automatic throttle blip control, make it almost impossible to miss a gear and over-rev the engine. A softer anti-roll bar on the front axle reduces understeer.
     
    The power increase of the four-litre, six-cylinder flat engine in the rear was achieved through optimisation of the intake system. The gearing of the sequential six-speed dog-type gearbox was adapted to the higher maximum output. In order to bring the power to the tarmac safely and to assist race drivers, the 911 GT3 R has featured a sophisticated ex-works traction control since the 2010 model year. An efficient race-ABS assists braking.
     
    The new Porsche 911 GT3 R will be delivered to teams around the world from November 2011. The vehicle costs 304,500 Euro ($434,000) plus the value added tax of respective countries. The Porsche 911 GT3 R from the 2010 and 2011 model years can be upgraded to the 2012-spec. An upgrade kit is available from Porsche Motorsport for 43,100 Euro.
     
    The 911 GT3 R represents the mid-range of Porsche’s customer racing vehicles. The 911 GT3 Cup, as the top-selling race car in the world, serves as the basis. Ranking above the 911 GT3 R is the 911 GT3 RSR, built for GT2 racing, which competes in series like the American Le Mans Series, the Le Mans Series and at the Le Mans 24 hour race.                         
     

    Re: 2012 GT3 R to feature paddle shift & 500hp

    Why can they give you paddles in their race car, but in the street car you get those annoying buttons on the steering wheel no one likes.


    Re: 2012 GT3 R to feature paddle shift & 500hp

    Hmmm, maybe the 991 GT3 will have the option of a sequential box, with a road version of these paddles.... who here would go for that? 


    --

    2011 Range Rover Sport S/C,  2009 Porsche 911S


    Re: 2012 GT3 R to feature paddle shift & 500hp

    4trac:

    Hmmm, maybe the 991 GT3 will have the option of a sequential box, with a road version of these paddles.... who here would go for that? 

     I would consider it very seriously. I took PDK on my car so ' try something new' . It took me a very long time to really  like it, even now I sometimes miss the clutch and stick.  I now drive it for 3 years.  BUT...... lately I have driven again a manual ( GT3 ) and  , to me own surprise , I was disappointed.  I missed the extreme shifting speed of PDK + the uninterrupted  acceleration ( that is addictive ) that you get with PDK.  So, I did find the manuel shifts to be so slow that it bothered me ( am I am very surprised that I reacted like that ) . Also with PDK I change gear much more often then with manual, allowing me the always be in the best possible gear , even if it is only for a second or two.

    And , the manual did feel ' ancient ' .....


    --

     997.2 C2S, PDK, -20mm


    Re: 2012 GT3 R to feature paddle shift & 500hp

     The times; they are a changing.........


    Re: 2012 GT3 R to feature paddle shift & 500hp

    I love the manual and unless you're seriously and competitively race cars - on which a paddle will mostsurely be faster - I'd rather shift manually n have no problem in being slower with it. Just yesterday I drove a friends M6 - and despite not being comparable weightwise to the RS - it was big fun at first - but after a while it felt to much playstation to me (7 shiftsettings,multiple dampers,power etc)......giving him the keys after to the RS - he was grinning all over the place driving a manual again.....

    I am sure the next GT3 will be optional with "paddles" and surely much faster - and most people will order it as they do in a Lambo or Ferrari - but since 0-100 or best lap times does not count so much for me a good manual box is just fantastic.  Most of 2nd 3rd cars are auto anyway so I hope they will keep it as a option for a long time


    Re: 2012 GT3 R to feature paddle shift & 500hp

    BjoernB:

    I love the manual and unless you're seriously and competitively race cars - on which a paddle will mostsurely be faster - I'd rather shift manually n have no problem in being slower with it.

    I am sure the next GT3 will be optional with "paddles" and surely much faster - and most people will order it as they do in a Lambo or Ferrari - but since 0-100 or best lap times does not count so much for me a good manual box is just fantastic.  Most of 2nd 3rd cars are auto anyway so I hope they will keep it as a option for a long time

    +1 Smiley  Fully agree with your sentiments - although I must say that if I could afford to buy a new Ferrari, I would probably get it with paddle shift, even if manual were an option (which of course it isn't in the 458).  Can't really explain why, other than the sense that paddle shift just feels right for the more "digital" experience of the Ferrari, whereas a manual box just seems to fit with the more "analogue" experience of driving a hot 911 - not sure if that makes any sense at all, but I've never felt as involved or engaged driving a paddle-shift as when driving a stick-shift.


    Re: 2012 GT3 R to feature paddle shift & 500hp

    I drove my colleagues 458 as well - and no doubt it sends you shivers thru the spine how immediate the shifts are - it's so easy to drive n you just focus on steering (also love the indicators - feels so natural after a while)  - but as you stated correctly it's a new breed of supercars vs a old one dying out - but still has it's amenities....

    here is to old vs new

    1315227955874458GT3RS.JPG


    Re: 2012 GT3 R to feature paddle shift & 500hp

    Gnil:
    4trac:

    Hmmm, maybe the 991 GT3 will have the option of a sequential box, with a road version of these paddles.... who here would go for that? 

     I would consider it very seriously. I took PDK on my car so ' try something new' . It took me a very long time to really  like it, even now I sometimes miss the clutch and stick.  I now drive it for 3 years.  BUT...... lately I have driven again a manual ( GT3 ) and  , to me own surprise , I was disappointed.  I missed the extreme shifting speed of PDK + the uninterrupted  acceleration ( that is addictive ) that you get with PDK.  So, I did find the manuel shifts to be so slow that it bothered me ( am I am very surprised that I reacted like that ) . Also with PDK I change gear much more often then with manual, allowing me the always be in the best possible gear , even if it is only for a second or two.

    And , the manual did feel ' ancient ' .....


    --

     997.2 C2S, PDK, -20mm


    I agree with all of Gnil's points on PDK. The constant nature of acceleration with PDK is not mentioned enough - but that would be hard to lose now.
    --

    2011 Range Rover Sport S/C,  2009 Porsche 911S


    Re: 2012 GT3 R to feature paddle shift & 500hp

    BjoernB:

    I drove my colleagues 458 as well - and no doubt it sends you shivers thru the spine how immediate the shifts are - it's so easy to drive n you just focus on steering (also love the indicators - feels so natural after a while)  - but as you stated correctly it's a new breed of supercars vs a old one dying out - but still has it's amenities....

    here is to old vs new

    1315227955874458GT3RS.JPG

    This is without a doubt my personal dream garage.  Who could ever need aything else if they had these two waiting in the garage?  Smiley
     


     
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