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    Pirelli P Zero vs. P Zero new

    Hi guys,
     
    what do you think about the new P Zero new. It seems that Pirelli had made some huge improvements.
     
    I have on my car P Zero Corsa MC1 specification, so tires homologated for McLaren. I will have to put some new in spring and I am thinking of taking P Zero instead of Corsas for street use and Trofeo R for track use.
     
    I could go with "old" P Zero MC1 or P Zero new but without MC homologation. What do you think are "old" technology tires but custom build for McLaren better then new P Zero?
     
     

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    AM


    Re: Pirelli P Zero vs. P Zero new

    I would be careful. The new PZero has certainly been improved a lot (maybe a bit less in the wet) but I would stick with the MC homologation. Better to be safe for street driving, at least this is my motto. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Pirelli P Zero vs. P Zero new

    Michelin only for me


    Re: Pirelli P Zero vs. P Zero new

    BjoernB:

    Michelin only for me

    ,+ 1   . My non N approved PSS are probably better then the approved N P  zero. Speaking about Porsche Carrera only 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 

     


    Re: Pirelli P Zero vs. P Zero new

    Sport Cup 2?? or what Michelin do you mean?


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    AM


    Re: Pirelli P Zero vs. P Zero new

    ALDO:

    Sport Cup 2?? or what Michelin do you mean?

    I guess he means the Super Sport. Smiley

    Not even sure there are the right sizes available for your car, also be careful with the top speed of your car (not all tires are approved for your car, top speed, load and tire pressure...no kidding).

    Michelin has a very nice service where you can request a certification for their tires, specifically for your car. 

    One reason I never got the Super Sport for my GT500...Michelin refused the certification for the 324 kph top speed (actual top speed was even higher because of the tuning). So I went for the PZero instead (Pirelli guaranteed 335 kph at   3.4 bar tire pressure...which was basically undriveable....so I went with 3.0 bar instead and limited my top speed to 300 kph).

    For a car like yours, for safety reasons (if you really go over 300 kph from time to time), stick with the OEM recommendations. You have kids... Smiley Smiley

    Btw: For my car, even the chassis settings (camber, etc.) are set in stone for the Vmax of the R8. If you drive more aggressive settings, the tires overheat and can...blow. Smiley

    One reason I never play around with tire setups and stick to manufacturer recommendations for cars with a Vmax over 300 kph.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)

     


    Re: Pirelli P Zero vs. P Zero new

    RC,

    I have checked the tire temperature and it goes fast to around 40°C but seldom more the 45°C or 50°C. On Corsas. 

    The good track time the 570s achieves is due to new Pirelli tires. McLaren told me to wait for the P14 which will be introduced with new Corsas.

    Actually I don´t like my Corsas, they have enough grip that is not the problem. Also I don´t mind if they hold 5.000 or 10.000 km. What I don´t like that they like to follow wheel ruts. 


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    AM


    Re: Pirelli P Zero vs. P Zero new

    ALDO:

    RC,

    I have checked the tire temperature and it goes fast to around 40°C but seldom more the 45°C or 50°C. On Corsas. 

    I usually get slightly over 50° on my PZero when it is over 20°C outside, which is a good temperature for grip. The PZero doesn't like anything over 60 it seems though. Anything between 40° and 55°C seems to be perfect for grip, between 30° and 40° is acceptable. The semi-slicks start to feel good at around 60° and more, so... 

    The good track time the 570s achieves is due to new Pirelli tires. McLaren told me to wait for the P14 which will be introduced with new Corsas.

    So wait?

    Actually I don´t like my Corsas, they have enough grip that is not the problem. Also I don´t mind if they hold 5.000 or 10.000 km. What I don´t like that they like to follow wheel ruts. 

    Yeah...wheel ruts can be really a pain in the ass...I understand you well. 

    Have you asked other 650S drivers about their experience with tires? Also, sometimes the mechanics at dealerships have a good experience (just don't ask the sales guy Smiley Smiley).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Pirelli P Zero vs. P Zero new

    I'd go MPSS or new Pzeros. The old Corsas are generally known to be mediocre. They didn't last long at the track, weren't amazing at the track, and were nothing special on the road. 

    I believe Michelin makes the best tires at the moment, in general.


     
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