Crown

Board: AMG Mercedes Language: English Region: Worldwide Share/Save/Bookmark Close

Forum - Thread


    SL65 AMG

    612hp, 1000NM (electronically limited to) 2000rpm-4000rpm.

    0-62.5mph in 4.2 seconds, 0-1000m in 21.7 seconds. Top speed completely uinrestricted of 208mph.










    Re: SL65 AMG

    No words, just amazing.

    the 65 AMG series are just stoning!

    Re: SL65 AMG

    No words, just amazing.

    the 65 AMG series are just stoning!

    Re: SL65 AMG

    nearly same performance, i'd prefer a twin turbo V12 over a supercharged V8 anytime and it even does look better than the SLR IMO...


    but isn't the SL facelift imminent? my guess is that customers who now buy this car for EUR 200K+, will probably be piXXed if their SL is outdated in under a year's time...

    Re: SL65 AMG

    nearly same performance, i'd prefer a twin turbo V12 over a supercharged V8 anytime and it even does look better than the SLR IMO...


    but isn't the SL facelift imminent? my guess is that customers who now buy this car for EUR 200K+, will probably be piXXed if their SL is outdated in under a year's time...

    Re: SL65 AMG

    Quote:
    zzboba said:
    nearly same performance, i'd prefer a twin turbo V12 over a supercharged V8 anytime and it even does look better than the SLR IMO...


    but isn't the SL facelift imminent? my guess is that customers who now buy this car for EUR 200K+, will probably be piXXed if their SL is outdated in under a year's time...



    Right, Sönke.
    If somebody is looking for a Mercedes super sports car, the SL65 AMG is definetely the better buy for the money.
    I actually think this is the perfect Roadster.

    Yes, the SL facelift is rumored to be pretty near but no details have been made official yet.

    And another thing: imagine what a tuner can make out of a bi-turbo charged V12 engine. I'd say that with a few motronic tweaks, the SL65's power output would be in the 700 HP range. I even suspect that Mercedes AMG limited the power of this engine to keep the torque at 1000 Nm and because of the SLR power figure.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    Quote:
    zzboba said:
    nearly same performance, i'd prefer a twin turbo V12 over a supercharged V8 anytime and it even does look better than the SLR IMO...


    but isn't the SL facelift imminent? my guess is that customers who now buy this car for EUR 200K+, will probably be piXXed if their SL is outdated in under a year's time...



    Right, Sönke.
    If somebody is looking for a Mercedes super sports car, the SL65 AMG is definetely the better buy for the money.
    I actually think this is the perfect Roadster.

    Yes, the SL facelift is rumored to be pretty near but no details have been made official yet.

    And another thing: imagine what a tuner can make out of a bi-turbo charged V12 engine. I'd say that with a few motronic tweaks, the SL65's power output would be in the 700 HP range. I even suspect that Mercedes AMG limited the power of this engine to keep the torque at 1000 Nm and because of the SLR power figure.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    The facelift for the SL is scheduled for introduction 1st quarter 2006.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    The facelift for the SL is scheduled for introduction 1st quarter 2006.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    I think I'd preffer the lighter SL55, which has already enough power that this car can handle.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    I think I'd preffer the lighter SL55, which has already enough power that this car can handle.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    Quote:
    The facelift for the SL is scheduled for introduction 1st quarter 2006.



    this is much later than i expected!

    i heard something about end of this year or beginning of next year. but i wouldn't mind if merc is unhasty with this, no need for another "look, we're in F1"-nose if you ask me.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    Quote:
    The facelift for the SL is scheduled for introduction 1st quarter 2006.



    this is much later than i expected!

    i heard something about end of this year or beginning of next year. but i wouldn't mind if merc is unhasty with this, no need for another "look, we're in F1"-nose if you ask me.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    Well, lets clear up some things...

    The 65 engine, when first made, produced "over 700bhp and 1200Nm", it had to be restricted, BUT AMG has said that the 65 models will have this much power one day....


    Since I know this road because I have been down it so many times, I'll go down there again. The performance of the SL65 although quick is by nowhere near that of the SLR. Seriously, its a joke. The SLR is a much much quicker and faster car, and its handling, for a Mercedes, in a league of its own compared to the SL65.

    0-60
    SLR: 3.8 SL65: 4.2

    0-100mph
    SLR: 7.6 SL65: 9

    0-150mph
    SLR: 16 SL65: 19.8

    0-186mph
    SLR: 30.6 SL65: 40-45

    top speeds...
    SLR: 208mph all day SL65: 186mph tops (restricted)

    How on Earth are these cars anywhere near similar??? It may be more comfortable than the SLR, have that roof and more torque, but it weighs 2100+kgs!!! How can something this heavy with 1000nm, RWD, put the power down safely??? In the SLR you can do 200mph easily, safely and with much more control, doing 180mph+ in a 2.2 ton car hurtling down the Autobahn is a scary thought!

    Remember RC's E55 that had traction problems with 700NM? Well, just amplify that effect for this car. THE ONLY road you can drive this on is Nardo! You guys are absolutely amazing, you are very unfair to the SLR, many times I have read such comments and have not said anything but it has to be said.

    SL65 may be an amazing car but comparing it to the SLR is like saying the 99Turbo is better than the CGT, coz performance is nearly the same and its cheaper, yeah right.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    Well, lets clear up some things...

    The 65 engine, when first made, produced "over 700bhp and 1200Nm", it had to be restricted, BUT AMG has said that the 65 models will have this much power one day....


    Since I know this road because I have been down it so many times, I'll go down there again. The performance of the SL65 although quick is by nowhere near that of the SLR. Seriously, its a joke. The SLR is a much much quicker and faster car, and its handling, for a Mercedes, in a league of its own compared to the SL65.

    0-60
    SLR: 3.8 SL65: 4.2

    0-100mph
    SLR: 7.6 SL65: 9

    0-150mph
    SLR: 16 SL65: 19.8

    0-186mph
    SLR: 30.6 SL65: 40-45

    top speeds...
    SLR: 208mph all day SL65: 186mph tops (restricted)

    How on Earth are these cars anywhere near similar??? It may be more comfortable than the SLR, have that roof and more torque, but it weighs 2100+kgs!!! How can something this heavy with 1000nm, RWD, put the power down safely??? In the SLR you can do 200mph easily, safely and with much more control, doing 180mph+ in a 2.2 ton car hurtling down the Autobahn is a scary thought!

    Remember RC's E55 that had traction problems with 700NM? Well, just amplify that effect for this car. THE ONLY road you can drive this on is Nardo! You guys are absolutely amazing, you are very unfair to the SLR, many times I have read such comments and have not said anything but it has to be said.

    SL65 may be an amazing car but comparing it to the SLR is like saying the 99Turbo is better than the CGT, coz performance is nearly the same and its cheaper, yeah right.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    Quote:
    SL65 may be an amazing car but comparing it to the SLR is like saying the 99Turbo is better than the CGT, coz performance is nearly the same and its cheaper, yeah right.



    not at all. IMO the CGT isn't at all about straight line peformance -- it's the ultimate sports car which can even be driven daily (well, ok, this clutch... ).

    but what's so special about the SLR then? despite the hefty price tag, the mclaren badge and the batmobile look, it's neither a sports car nor a perfect GT -- at least that it the conclusion i've got after reading a lot of magazine reports and road tests.

    and in the end it's all about selling cars, and the target audience for these two cars is quite similar IMO.

    if i would be a merc lover with lots of money, i'd decide for the SL 65 AMG. and i would have no problem driving 180+ MPH with it. IMO the experience and sense of responsibility of the driver and the road condition are a lot more important than 300kg or 400kg more or less weight.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    Quote:
    SL65 may be an amazing car but comparing it to the SLR is like saying the 99Turbo is better than the CGT, coz performance is nearly the same and its cheaper, yeah right.



    not at all. IMO the CGT isn't at all about straight line peformance -- it's the ultimate sports car which can even be driven daily (well, ok, this clutch... ).

    but what's so special about the SLR then? despite the hefty price tag, the mclaren badge and the batmobile look, it's neither a sports car nor a perfect GT -- at least that it the conclusion i've got after reading a lot of magazine reports and road tests.

    and in the end it's all about selling cars, and the target audience for these two cars is quite similar IMO.

    if i would be a merc lover with lots of money, i'd decide for the SL 65 AMG. and i would have no problem driving 180+ MPH with it. IMO the experience and sense of responsibility of the driver and the road condition are a lot more important than 300kg or 400kg more or less weight.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    SLR: "The fastest Mercedes on sale today"

    If thats not enough marketing I don't know what is.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    SLR: "The fastest Mercedes on sale today"

    If thats not enough marketing I don't know what is.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    In Antwort auf:
    zzboba said:
    not at all. IMO the CGT isn't at all about straight line peformance -- it's the ultimate sports car which can even be driven daily (well, ok, this clutch... ).

    but what's so special about the SLR then? despite the hefty price tag, the mclaren badge and the batmobile look, it's neither a sports car nor a perfect GT -- at least that it the conclusion i've got after reading a lot of magazine reports and road tests.

    and in the end it's all about selling cars, and the target audience for these two cars is quite similar IMO.

    if i would be a merc lover with lots of money, i'd decide for the SL 65 AMG. and i would have no problem driving 180+ MPH with it. IMO the experience and sense of responsibility of the driver and the road condition are a lot more important than 300kg or 400kg more or less weight.



    Absolutely right! The SLR is neither fish nor flesh and that's it's problem. Presenting a car like the SL65 might be questionable when you already got cars like the SL55 and SL600, but if it's sheer power you are looking for and you are a Merc lover (and if it's a GT you are looking for of course), the SL65 definitely is the car you should go for. And concerning that new Formula-One-inspired-nose-looks of DC: I wouldn't wonder if Merc is unhasty with donating the SL a nose operation but I really wouldn't be at all surprised if they decide to remove the chubby F1-style nose from cars like the SLR and the SLK!
    (just kidding)

    Re: SL65 AMG

    In Antwort auf:
    zzboba said:
    not at all. IMO the CGT isn't at all about straight line peformance -- it's the ultimate sports car which can even be driven daily (well, ok, this clutch... ).

    but what's so special about the SLR then? despite the hefty price tag, the mclaren badge and the batmobile look, it's neither a sports car nor a perfect GT -- at least that it the conclusion i've got after reading a lot of magazine reports and road tests.

    and in the end it's all about selling cars, and the target audience for these two cars is quite similar IMO.

    if i would be a merc lover with lots of money, i'd decide for the SL 65 AMG. and i would have no problem driving 180+ MPH with it. IMO the experience and sense of responsibility of the driver and the road condition are a lot more important than 300kg or 400kg more or less weight.



    Absolutely right! The SLR is neither fish nor flesh and that's it's problem. Presenting a car like the SL65 might be questionable when you already got cars like the SL55 and SL600, but if it's sheer power you are looking for and you are a Merc lover (and if it's a GT you are looking for of course), the SL65 definitely is the car you should go for. And concerning that new Formula-One-inspired-nose-looks of DC: I wouldn't wonder if Merc is unhasty with donating the SL a nose operation but I really wouldn't be at all surprised if they decide to remove the chubby F1-style nose from cars like the SLR and the SLK!
    (just kidding)

    Re: SL65 AMG

    Quote:
    rossi said:iAbsolutely right! The SLR is neither fish nor flesh and that's it's problem. Presenting a car like the SL65 might be questionable when you already got cars like the SL55 and SL600



    And to make matter worse it seems McLaren and DC want to create a new brand after their joint venture with the SLR, and build now a car placed (according to them) between the SLR and the SL

    Re: SL65 AMG

    Quote:
    rossi said:iAbsolutely right! The SLR is neither fish nor flesh and that's it's problem. Presenting a car like the SL65 might be questionable when you already got cars like the SL55 and SL600



    And to make matter worse it seems McLaren and DC want to create a new brand after their joint venture with the SLR, and build now a car placed (according to them) between the SLR and the SL

    Re: SL65 AMG

    What is your best estimate as to what this car will cost?

    Re: SL65 AMG

    What is your best estimate as to what this car will cost?

    Re: SL65 AMG

    Quote:
    What is your best estimate as to what this car will cost?



    official price in germany is EUR 201,840.00

    i have no idea if sales tax is included or not though.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    Quote:
    What is your best estimate as to what this car will cost?



    official price in germany is EUR 201,840.00

    i have no idea if sales tax is included or not though.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    Quote:
    carlos fromspain said:
    Quote:
    rossi said:iAbsolutely right! The SLR is neither fish nor flesh and that's it's problem. Presenting a car like the SL65 might be questionable when you already got cars like the SL55 and SL600



    And to make matter worse it seems McLaren and DC want to create a new brand after their joint venture with the SLR, and build now a car placed (according to them) between the SLR and the SL



    Many have said MBZ is on a hellbent quest to answer a question no one really asked : offering multiple numbers of powerful cars in it's own upper end lineup- each threatening sales from the other with much performance overlapping.
    ( SL55/SL600/SL65/CL55/CL600/CL65/S55/S600/S65 and all these are just 12-18months from their new or updated models ) Then there's the SLR/Maybach/rumored McLaren badged " tweener " car. What are their marketing people smoking ? Talk about brand confusion to the end buyer.
    BMW and Audi should just sit back and watch this cannabilsm runs its natural course.
    It's almost like an overreaction to their failings after buying a low dollar company like Chrysler.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    Quote:
    carlos fromspain said:
    Quote:
    rossi said:iAbsolutely right! The SLR is neither fish nor flesh and that's it's problem. Presenting a car like the SL65 might be questionable when you already got cars like the SL55 and SL600



    And to make matter worse it seems McLaren and DC want to create a new brand after their joint venture with the SLR, and build now a car placed (according to them) between the SLR and the SL



    Many have said MBZ is on a hellbent quest to answer a question no one really asked : offering multiple numbers of powerful cars in it's own upper end lineup- each threatening sales from the other with much performance overlapping.
    ( SL55/SL600/SL65/CL55/CL600/CL65/S55/S600/S65 and all these are just 12-18months from their new or updated models ) Then there's the SLR/Maybach/rumored McLaren badged " tweener " car. What are their marketing people smoking ? Talk about brand confusion to the end buyer.
    BMW and Audi should just sit back and watch this cannabilsm runs its natural course.
    It's almost like an overreaction to their failings after buying a low dollar company like Chrysler.

    Re: SL65 AMG

    You wish...

    The 65 series cars have exceeded AMG's highest sales expectations, AMG has said it may not be able to deliver and fulfil all 65 orders. The SLR as you all know is sold out for another 2 years, with orders now being given 2006/7 build/delivery. And the Maybach has outsold the RR Phantom 2:1 600 vs 300 cars sold.

    BMW/Audi are quaking in their boots, you'd better believe it.

     
    Edit

    Forum

    Board Subject Last post Rating Views Replies
    Porsche Sticky SUN'S LAST RUN TO WILSON, WY - 991 C2S CAB LIFE, END OF AN ERA (Part I) Thread Closed 9/24/20 12:47 AM
    watt
    578732 2849
    Porsche Sticky The moment I've been waiting for... 12/30/20 9:03 AM
    rhino
     
     
     
     
     
    357466 1279
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020) 4/10/21 2:32 PM
    Joost
    86129 1085
    Porsche Sticky Welcome to Rennteam: Cars and Coffee... (photos) 4/21/21 9:49 AM
    RCA
    44267 340
    Porsche Sticky ROAD TEST: New 992 Carrera 4S 3/3/21 10:57 PM
    Wonderbar
    35206 336
    Porsche Sticky Porsche Taycan Turbo S - Short Review 10/19/20 6:12 PM
    Leawood911
    32879 380
    Porsche Sticky SUN'S LAST RUN TO WILSON, WY - 991 C2S CAB LIFE, END OF AN ERA (Part II) 4/23/21 4:25 AM
    CGX car nut
    15412 314
    Porsche Sticky Porsche extends the Taycan model range (Taycan 2WD) 2/1/21 12:42 PM
    Leawood911
    4303 29
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017) 7/27/20 2:13 AM
    DJM48
    561841 5257
    Porsche Cayman GT4 4/13/21 10:04 AM
    996FourEss
    401824 3585
    McLaren McLaren on a winning streak 4/13/21 8:01 AM
    BjoernB
    356002 3915
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017) 12/27/20 4:06 PM
    Topspeed
    352884 3486
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018) 11/5/20 9:55 PM
    DaveGordon
    313301 3242
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016) 12/8/20 7:51 PM
    DJM48
    309705 2646
    Porsche OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car 2/28/21 8:05 PM
    Topspeed
    216158 1542
    Porsche Tesla Roadster 9/23/20 8:22 PM
    bluelines
    183703 4279
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016) 2/11/21 9:22 AM
    Itsme
    160439 1379
    Others Alfa Romeo 4C 9/23/20 10:22 AM
    RCA
    138015 792
    Porsche 992 GT3 4/22/21 7:35 PM
    blueflame
    113303 2171
    Lambo Lamborghini Huracan and variants 4/9/21 4:32 PM
    Topspeed
    105670 1225
    McLaren F1 2/25/21 11:33 AM
    RCA
    77110 207
    Porsche Welcome to the new Taycan Forum! 4/16/21 10:24 AM
    rhino
    69981 1154
    AMG AMG GT R 11/19/20 11:47 PM
    Topspeed
    64642 819
    Lambo Aventador and SV 4/20/21 3:21 PM
    CGX car nut
    63634 683
    Porsche 991 Speedster 9/3/20 4:29 PM
    Topspeed
    56487 878
    Porsche Nürburgring - Tesla vs. Taycan 11/23/20 6:10 PM
    Topspeed
    43024 596
    Others Bugatti Chiron 4/12/21 3:42 PM
    RCA
    36428 476
    Porsche Olive 991.2 GT3 Clubsport 1/1/21 7:58 PM
    throt
    33746 615
    Ferrari Ferrari 812 Superfast 4/22/21 3:03 PM
    nberry
    28965 433
    BMW M BMW M2 Rumors 3/21/21 5:01 PM
    Topspeed
    28622 385
    270 items found, displaying 1 to 30.