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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    With my Ferrari's, I used it for putting the car into neutral. Had no idea there are other uses.yes


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    Some interesting points by Porsche engineers Preuninger and Hatz on the 991 GT3 (revs, PDK steering).

    I got excited only by reading their remarks kiss (from the UK magazine 911& Porsche World)

    preuninger.jpg


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    New video (on real world) kiss

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dkXXS67INw


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    The black one looks stunning! angel


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    The Sapphire Blue looks great, can't wait there are some better pics of it


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    davett225:

    The Sapphire Blue looks great, can't wait there are some better pics of it

    Agree.  First I thought the grey looked sinister but the Sapphire Blue is a real stunner.  


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    Porsche 991 GT3 on road...

    Porsche 991 GT3 on road -- Autogespot Link

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    Thanks. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    reginos:

    Some interesting points by Porsche engineers Preuninger and Hatz on the 991 GT3 (revs, PDK steering).

    I got excited only by reading their remarks kiss (from the UK magazine 911& Porsche World)

    preuninger.jpg

    Very interesting comment from Wolfgang Hatz on the possibility of a manual option for the 991 GT3 RS...

    Wolfgang Hatz (Porsche, Head of R&D):

    Wolfgang-Hatz_Porsche-911-RSR.jpg

    "If I compare 997 PDK it's, erm, difficult; then on 991 I think we took a huge step (with the PDK): this new 'box is like PDK 3.0 it's such another level. For the past two and a half years I pushed my transmission guys, I always said 'too slow', 'it's not fun'. The benchmark was the Ferrari 458 (gearbox): now we have the new benchmark".

    Our pairing then go on to confirm that the weight disadvantage of the PDK box (40kg) is partially negated by the new engine being lighter than the old Mezger unit (25kg). No matter what question is thrown at them they remain convinced of their decision, and also of the fact it's more enjoyable than the old manual gearbox in the 997 GT3.

    But, as Hatz says, "if we are wrong we are not stupid and will say ok, for the RS then perhaps we will change" (and consider a manual).

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    Porsche 991 GT3 at Shanghai motor show...

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    Thanks so much for those updated pictures you have been sending through. They have made my weekend far more interesting!


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    The new 991 GT3 is actually the first GT3 to look good in silver tones too. kiss


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    Maybe you should discuss this with PJ ...


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    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    Porsche 991 GT3 on road...

     

     

     

     

     

    one with european plates, one with US plates...


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    I saw a 4S in that blue as above and looked in real life AMAZING - i would probably choose that one for my next indecision


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    I think both plates are German.


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    Gregor:

    I think both plates are German.


    Yes they are, I'd say Budster was referring to the different shaped bumpers. Smiley

    IMO European bumper fits the car better BTW.


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    Rossi:
    Gregor:

    I think both plates are German.


    Yes they are, I'd say Budster was referring to the different shaped bumpers. Smiley

    IMO European bumper fits the car better BTW.

    I was about to point out the exact same thing and add the same observation. Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    Thanks for the Sapphire Blue pics, I'm definitely going with that color. kiss


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    Oh my... the sound!
    Turn up the volume to the max and enjoy those shifts! SWEET!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-vIFYELyOo

     


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    pxaxh:

    Oh my... the sound!
    Turn up the volume to the max and enjoy those shifts! SWEET!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-vIFYELyOo

     

    Thanks for posting.

    Nice to see at 0.17s that this car with all the electronics, still needs a good driver at the steering wheel...Smiley

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    pxaxh:

    Oh my... the sound!
    Turn up the volume to the max and enjoy those shifts! SWEET!

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-vIFYELyOo

    991 GT3 looking good on track...

    991-GT3_front.jpg

    991-GT3_rear.jpg

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    Porsche 911 GT3 testing ground clearance...

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    Porsche 911 GT3 testing ground clearance -- gallery link

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    With the the lift, yes?


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    DaveC:

    With the the lift, yes?

    Yes indeed -- the front lift should really be included as standard equipment on the GT3... Smiley


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    Short video with AP discussing the fun aspect of the 991GT3.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXl5vre1nQo&feature=player_embedded

     


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    Andreas Preuninger on the Porsche 991 GT3...

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    -- ‘Shut up and drive’ says Porsche GT3 boss
     
    Andreas Preuninger has a cold. Which might explain why the man in charge of Porsche’s GT cars is a little edgy at the moment...
     
    Or it might be because his latest project, the GT3, has been met with skepticism and predictable groans. 
     
    But he’s used to this. For the past 12 years and eight cars, Preuninger has always been proven right in the end. 
     
    I’m not a betting man, but I think the wise money would be on his side again when it comes to this, the new 991-generation Porsche GT3.
     
    Q: What are the GT cars, and the GT3 specifically.
     
    Preuninger: The GT branch of cars came up in 1999 when we needed a car to homologate for the races. And at that time the race class we wanted to compete in was the GT3 class. So the codename for this car was the Carrera GT3. We didn’t think it was the name for the car. But it attached so much to the car, even the sales guys said why not name it the GT3? And that’s how GT3 came about.
     
    Q: Is there still a connection between the GT3 cars and the race cars?
     
    A: This is a unique point in Porsche, because it is really the same people taking care of the street legal cars and the race cars. We never develop the GT3 street car without the Cup car or RSR in mind, and visa versa. It is one big development project with different branches I would say. 
     
    You could consider them the special cars —the GTX cars. These are the cars developed by motorsport and not by the “normal” development centre that we have in Weissach.
     
    Q: Can you give some background on these special homologation cars?
     
    A: We always had the very sporty versions of the 911.
     
    Everybody knows that in ’72 we had the 2.7 RS. That was done mainly for the same reasons why we did 996 GT3, the first one, we needed a basis for homologation of a race car. You have to have a number, 200 cars legally on the street to homologate all the gizmos onboard for racing.
     
    After the 2.7 RS, there was not so much going on. In the beginning of the ‘80s we had the SC RS models.
     
    But the tailwind to this whole RS/GT3 idea came from my perception with the 964 RS, a car that really hit the market big. It was such a blast to drive, so enjoyable, so direct, so pure. And after that with the 993 RS, same thing. 
     
    You tend to glorify things so it’s always good to drive these cars from time to time. People might say there was never a car which was so good as the 993 RS… which is a joke. Drive one today and you see what progress did since then.
     
    Q: What was it like to develop the first GT3? 
     
    A: The first 996 GT3, if you look at the differentiation to the base model: We use the same rims that were available through Techquipment, slightly different tires, but it was the same aero kit you could buy on a normal Carrera. So we developed the bucket seats and threw everything out and made a complete new suspension; took the turbo engine and detuned it, put away the turbochargers and loaded the thing up with more compression. And that’s how the first GT3 model came about. It had 3.6-litres and 360 horsepower: 100 hp per litre. This was HUGE at that time.
     
    Some people didn’t believe in the car. The same thing happened in ’72 with the RS. They said no, you can’t sell that car. Nobody will want that. Something similar happened with the 996 GT3. We sold so many more cars than were actually in the busness concept. And so a star was born.
     
    I remember the headlines: the 911 is back! We had so much criticism about converting to water cooled engines: 'This car is like a piece of soap and it’s not raw enough.' And then the GT3 came, and they said, 'YES! Here is the 911 again.'
     
    All these people that I started with in 1999, 80 percent of the people are still on my [GT] team. The development process of eight GT3 cars—this is the eighth we're doing now—all the lessons learned don’t go away.
     
    Q: What was the challenge for this new 991-gen GT3?
     
    A: This was the absolute biggest GTX project we ever did. Absoluately. New drivetrain including a complete new engine family—it’s not a 991 engine with a hotter cam. We just use the crank case. Everything else is new stuff. I dare say, the distance, the gap is wider now between GT3 and Carrera. There are 700 new parts in that new [GT3] car.
     
    Q: Here’s the question you’re getting a lot: Why PDK only and no manual transmission?
     
    A: The PDK that is so discussed so much—‘Why! How can you do this! Holy Manual and skip it overboard’—I say it’s a shut up and drive. 
     
    It’s a crucial period now, people complain, forming strong opinions about something they can’t judge because they didn’t have any opportunity to drive it and judge it realistically. But that will pass as soon as the first journalists come back with their feedback—and I know exactly what this feedback is going to be like. 
     
    I experience it too often. With every new RS: ‘Oh no! This colour scheme; Oh no! These decals; How can they do this; Blah blah bloop.’ And everybody bought it nevertheless and is happy.
     
    Q: So the new GT3 hasn’t gone soft?
     
    A: It’s more usable, but it’s not softer. If you look at the spring rates of the car, they’re way stiffer than on the 997—way stiffer. The ride is better because of the wheelbase, so the car has less roll, less pitch than the old one. But at the same time through the length of the body, it has more lets say, residual comfort.
     
    Q: Can you explain the ‘Neutral’ function built into the paddle shifters? Can we use it like a clutch kick?
     
    A: That’s easy. If you pull both paddles towards you, it’s the same as if in a manual you press the clutch with your foot. And you can do that at any time, middle of a corner. That’s why we did it because in the middle of a corner when you want to initiate a drift you can use the jolt it gives when you let go of the clutch. You have to disengage the traction control stuff and then it comes exactly like a SNAP. 
     
    Or, if you have all the systems engaged, and you just want to make all your rear wheels load free this is good too. Just imagine you’re coming down a wet street, you’re too fast which can happen, and there’s a curve and there’s a big puddle of water standing there. Not good. So, what do you do? Normally, when I encounter a problem like that I press the clutch. Why? I want the rear wheel to be free of any overrun or traction influence to have the maximum potential of the tire for building up side forces. And that’s what you do simply by pressing the paddles.
     
    It gives you more freedom, There’s additional man-machine interface. There’s no automatic upshifts in manual mode either. If you hit the rev limiter, you hit the rev limiter.
     
    Q: So this is the future then, obviously?
     
    A: Even in racing you have to have [computerized, electronic] systems to get faster. And we don’t want to lose the podium on that car just to have more involvement of driving. It’s a different involvement now. Okay, you lose your left foot action. You can’t modulate the clutch when you go. But there’s so many other things that you get instead, that overcompensate, clearly, from the emotional side. 
     
    Normally, when I’m going in an automatic gearbox car I’m bored in 10 minutes and I put it into full auto mode. Not on that [new GT3] car. Not at all. And I’m sure 99% of our followers will see that as soon as they’ve driven the car.
     
    We did [GT cars] eight times. And we did it right. And I don’t think we’ll fail this time.
     
    Q: What makes a car thrilling for you?
     
    A: Precision. Precision and feedback. It’s these two things.
     
    When you’re sitting in this bucket seat that you get all the information through the seat rails, through the hands, everything. So the information the car gives you about the status it’s in, this is the satisfying thing for me. And this is what the GT3 stands for: feedback.
     
    But you can’t put it in one word. It’s emotional. It’s things like noises as well. I like a car to have a satisfying noise. It doesn’t have to be too quiet because I grew up with combustion engines. I couldn’t live with electric – it just bores the hell out of me with: zzzzzzzz. It’s not my thing. 
     
    Yeah, I think it’s the precision and feedback….
     
    But why is something fun? It’s hard to pin down. Nobody needs a GT3. But most people want to have one. So why is that? Because it’s pleasure.
     

    Smiley SmileySmiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    Spot on ! specially the last sentence !!!


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

    Great interview - thanks for sharing


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