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    Sport Auto M3 vs. CLK63Black

    M3 tires-Michelin Pilot Cup+
    CLK63Black-Pirelli P Zero Corsa

    Re: Sport Auto M3 vs. CLK63Black

    M3
    0-100km/h: 4.8s
    80-120km/h: 7.2(6.)
    Max: 280km/h(M Driver Package option code 07ME)


    CLK63Black
    0-100km/h: 4.5s
    80-120km/h: 8.9s(7. speed of autobox)
    Max: 300km/h

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    Cannot wait for the c63 vs m3 comparison...but CLK gives a good hint. I guess with the C63 MB has landed a hit.

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    I wonder if the development crew at BMW are suddenly realising ... "oops"

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    CLK63 black series. A M3 KEEPING UP WITH A BLACK SERIES. Im in shock.

    This is Black Series guys, not a normal CLK63. Its lighter and more powerful than a normal CLK63.
    507hp and cost like 3 times more than a M3.

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    Just_me said:
    CLK63 black series. A M3 KEEPING UP WITH A BLACK SERIES. Im in shock.

    This is Black Series guys, not a normal CLK63. Its lighter and more powerful than a normal CLK63.
    507hp and cost like 3 times more than a M3.



    really? I don't have a clue what "black series" entails. If that is so, then

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    Was about to say the same thing just_me ...
    Black series costs GT3 money if not more (i think) ..

    BMW did well IMO

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    Mike S said:
    Quote:
    Just_me said:
    CLK63 black series. A M3 KEEPING UP WITH A BLACK SERIES. Im in shock.

    This is Black Series guys, not a normal CLK63. Its lighter and more powerful than a normal CLK63.
    507hp and cost like 3 times more than a M3.



    really? I don't have a clue what "black series" entails. If that is so, then



    Here are more details about the car:
    http://www.mercedes-amg.com/CLK_Black_Series/
    Basically it's a twin of the F1 saftey car.

    @ BC911: the GT3 is a bargain by comparison
    German prices (incl.19% VAT)
    CLK63BS 141,610 Euro
    GT3 112,544 Euro

    Not sure which purpose these spiced up CLKs serve - who needs a safety car on public roads ?

    Re: Sport Auto M3 vs. CLK63Black

    A short review on the SportAuto website including videos of M3 & CLK63 BlackSeries.

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    Thanx for the link to the videos. It's not like the M3 doesn't sound good, but the CLK sounds a heck of a lot better - at least to my ears.

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    JohnJohn said:
    Thanx for the link to the videos. It's not like the M3 doesn't sound good, but the CLK sounds a heck of a lot better - at least to my ears.


    for what a Black series cost it should sound darn good. Hopefully it will happen to M3 CSL as well.

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    M3 competes against C63 as car of choice for CA kids who work at BestBuy/Starbucks, etc and live rent-free w/Mommy...

    CLK63BS is one confused, expensive POS.....far more expensive to drive for one yr/10-15K mis than GT3/Scud, b/c of likely severe deprec....a 4000lb (???) alleged track/street car w/ground clearance issues; non-street-optimal perf tires; and an ancient CLK body/tech platform (a secretary's/hairdresser's car in CA ).....w/a tiny peripheral tach in a car w/paddleshifters....perhaps placeboshifters????

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    the rumour has it, 8.03 min is the N-ring time for the new M3. Maybe Kreso can confirm?

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    WBH said:
    M3 competes against C63 as car of choice for CA kids who work at BestBuy/Starbucks, etc and live rent-free w/Mommy...



    Well, at least CA kids have good taste

    You know, everyone don't like big, heavy coupes like the CL 63 but prefer something smaller - regardless of their financial situation and social status. An MB CL AMG (and similar) has the potential to look too much like the owner is compensating for problems with manhood/insecurity or just simply trying too hard. No offense, it's still one hell of a car, just not to everyone's taste.

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    JohnJohn said:
    An MB CL AMG (and similar) has the potential to look too much like the owner is compensating for problems with manhood/insecurity or just simply trying too hard.



    Funny, in Germany I have a similar problem driving a 997 Turbo.

    "Do you need this as a p-enlargement?"
    "No, I love Porsche cars, I drive them for more than ten years now and besides that, I'm married and I have two kids".
    "What about a girl friend?"
    "No girl friend, I'm married."
    "So you don't have a girl friend and you need the Porsche to get one, right?"
    "I believe in monogamy during marriage."
    "So why do you need a Porsche?"
    "Because it is fun driving one."
    "It is a car, nothing special."
    "It is a sportscar and I enjoy driving it fast."
    "So you enjoy to terrorize other drivers who don't drive fast, right?"
    "What are you talking about, I drive it fast because it is fun and it can drive fast, it is some sort of a challenge."
    "So you basically admit that you have a inferiority complex and you need to prove yourself, you need a challenge?"
    "I don't prove anything to anybody, I'm 42 years old, I lived a life, I've done this and that, I enjoy being a family man and I have enough work to be busy and to prove myself in the family, I don't need a car for that."
    "So why you have your Porsche?"
    "I told you, it is fun."
    "Riding a bycicle is fun too and it is less expensive."
    "So what? You can ride your bike, I drive my car."
    "The bike is healthier and it doesn't pollute the environment."
    "I'm 42, I don't drink, I don't smoke, I'm not really slim but I'm not obese, I have a perfect blood pressure, sugar is even lower than normal, never had a serious illness and have a cold maybe once a year, sometimes only every two years, no health problems. Regarding the environment, your RAV is less environmental friendly than my sportscar."
    "You always have an answer for everything, right?"
    "I always have answers for stupid questions, right."

    Do you think this conversation is a fake? Think again...it really happened...with a young female at a local sports centre (my wife said she was probably hitting on me but she knows her and she is...married).

    Btw: last time I met her, she told me about a Porsche driver who caused a deadly accident, killing two innocent people. I was looking at her and didn't really understand what she wants to tell me.

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    Nicely handled!

    Women just don't get it, do they?

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    Crash said:
    Nicely handled!



    Quite surprising this came from a woman - reading your dialogue I assumed a similiarly-aged father of three justifying his familyvan acquisition to you!

    I am wondering what kind of people you meet down there, have to rethink my change of location...

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    Ferdie said:
    Quote:
    Crash said:
    Nicely handled!



    Quite surprising this came from a woman - reading your dialogue I assumed a similiarly-aged father of three justifying his familyvan acquisition to you!

    I am wondering what kind of people you meet down there, have to rethink my change of location...



    Maybe she just wanted some coochie-coochie like RC's wife said .

    Re: Sport Auto M3 vs. CLK63Black

    7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1760 kg (*mfr.) according to www.caranddriver.com/previews/12956/first-drive-mercedes-clk63-amg-black-series.html

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    7.45 seems very unlikely. Faster than Gallardo SL and F430? Ah.

    10s faster than 997TT that weights 400 pounds less?

    2 secs slower than the dream factory lap of the Z06 with 700 pounds less and same HP?

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    Quote:
    SciFrog said:
    7.45 seems very unlikely. Faster than Gallardo SL and F430? Ah.



    See that little asterisk next to the number? I bet that means: "only when we're stoned" .

    Re: Sport Auto M3 vs. CLK63Black

    German Autobild claim CLK63 BS does the N-ring in 8.02 min. I trust german carmags more than american carmags

    Re: Sport Auto M3 vs. CLK63Black

    More data from the article...

    M3
    0-200km/h: 15.7s
    Slalom 18m: 69.2km/h

    CLK63Black
    0-200km/h: 14.6s
    Slalom 18m: 67.7km/h

     
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