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    Re: 991 Speedster

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    unotaz:

    Interesting. 992 GT3 Touring convertible.  Presumably with no back seat? 

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    Weather is finally good enough for me to take the Speedster out to Whistler and stretch it's legs.

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    My first trip in this car on this road. Steering feel is very good, ride is very compliant yet the body control is excellent, I would rate the suspension better than the 911R, that one is a wee bit too firm and bounce a bit more. Nothing close to the GT2RS for punishment though. 

    Unlike the 911 turbo S, this is not a effortless car, that one magically just complete every task I asked of it or even thought of, this one needed work to complete the tasks. Some called it driver involvement though. I however think of it like high school students, this car is the one that studies every day and get straight As after, turbo S is the kid that parties every night and a quick glance at the text books the morning before exams and still get straight As. GT2RS would be the kid that just skip a grade or 2. They all get straight As but achieve it very differently.

    Set aside the production number issues, the Speedster is a all around better car than the 911R. maybe the single mass flywheel is slightly better in the 911R, but I really don't think that can tilt the table enough in the 911R's flavour, the Speedster, even with the new exhaust arrangement, sounds better (at least in North American trim without the actual filter). Think that's due to the lack of a roof, or even just the cloth top, I have wring both engines out to 9k next to a rock wall on the mountain road, the Speedster has the better reverberated sound even when the windows are down in the 911R. I mentioned the Speedster rides better than the 911R, it does have a slightly softer suspension tune but that does not give away any steering feel, it made the car much more connected to the road, and I already have the Speedster in Sport setting 24/7. On a track the 911R feels fine, but on public roads with slight imperfections it does skipped slightly, not as bad as a GT2RS but the difference is noticeable when compared with the Speedster. 

    WInd buffing is minimal in the Speedster with the windows up, whatever is left a baseball cap is an easy fix. Heater is good enough to keep warm on a slight chilling mountain morning, and the air-con is good enough to keep cool in the warm afternoon. 

    Security when parked with the top down is excellent. Glovebox can be locked and whatever is put in the rear cubicles are blocked off when the 2 seats are all the way back, with windows up no human have long enough arms to pull the handle to slide the seat forward. 

    If I had to redo the car again, the bucket seats are definitely out, I am going with 18-ways. This is like the 5th car I have that has these seats. Novelty wore off a looooooong time ago. 

     

     

     


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    Good writeup Nick.kiss

    You have way more mileage in yours than mine already.  But hitting 9K, you don't care about break in procedure??

    Agree with you on 18 ways, but buckets look better.  I'm looking into replacing with more comfy custom made cushions +/- lumbar support, but wife said this will spoil the original look.  Or I can get cheap and just buy 2 small cushions... yes


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    Targa Tim:

    Good writeup Nick.kiss

    You have way more mileage in yours than mine already.  But hitting 9K, you don't care about break in procedure??

    Agree with you on 18 ways, but buckets look better.  I'm looking into replacing with more comfy custom made cushions +/- lumbar support, but wife said this will spoil the original look.  Or I can get cheap and just buy 2 small cushions... yes

     

    When everything is up to temperature, 9k is fine. 

    The most important thing is have the internals at working temperature, as those parts are designed to function at that temp. The break in procedures in the manual is for idiots that don't wait till engine is up to temp before revving them. By 2500, 5000 km comes around, the parts would have worn down a bit and loosen up so it doesn't break immediately when those said idiots rev them to redline when cold.

    As for looks, name me one Porsche Speedster over that years that came with racing buckets. Not a 356 version, not a 911, not a 964, certainly not a 993, nor a 997 version. What's spoiling the looks now?

     


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    Nice feedback especially comparing it to the 911R  wink


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    Thanks Nick, the combination of that car and a place up in Whistler, you're a lucky (and noisy) bastard!


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    Porker:

    Thanks Nick, the combination of that car and a place up in Whistler, you're a lucky (and noisy) bastard!

     

    And you have the Ring and the Autobahn and the Alpine roads all around you................


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    The Speedster is not a car to be driven alone in. Also, bucket seats are a must. The car is about sporty speed thus the name Speedster. Tim's wife knows her cars.kiss

    BTW, bucket seats can't be more than 15-20 years old. It's no wonder earlier models didn't have them.


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    Bucket seats don't really stands for sporty, it's more about 'racey'.

    Porsche's own 18 way sports seat IS the sporty seat. With a street 3 point seat belt, a properly adjusted 18-way is just as supportive as the 918 buckets. The 918 seats only shows it's true colours when paired with a 6-point. But then again a Recaro race seat leave the 918 buckets in the dust. 

    Porsche spent all those money developing a new seat for the 918, hence why every other car has that seat as an option. It does save some weight over the 18-way, but then again I saved more weight by not taking a passenger.

    Also, the Speedster doesn't need to be driven spiritedly to enjoy, it is a very capable car when pushed and enjoyable, but even at much slower speed, it is a very enjoyable car with the top down.

    None of the previous versions of the Speedsters are 'fast' machine by Porsche's own standard in their respective time period, they mostly just have a regular N/A engine. This generation is the first one from them that gets a hot engine. 

     


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    Whoopsy:

    None of the previous versions of the Speedsters are 'fast' machine by Porsche's own standard in their respective time period, they mostly just have a regular N/A engine. This generation is the first one from them that gets a hot engine.

     

    and a chassis tweak Smiley


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    I have seen a Speedster by me where the owner has replaced the buckets with 18- way seats.


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    Whoopsy:
    Targa Tim:

    Good writeup Nick.kiss

    You have way more mileage in yours than mine already.  But hitting 9K, you don't care about break in procedure??

    Agree with you on 18 ways, but buckets look better.  I'm looking into replacing with more comfy custom made cushions +/- lumbar support, but wife said this will spoil the original look.  Or I can get cheap and just buy 2 small cushions... yes

     

    When everything is up to temperature, 9k is fine. 

    The most important thing is have the internals at working temperature, as those parts are designed to function at that temp. The break in procedures in the manual is for idiots that don't wait till engine is up to temp before revving them. By 2500, 5000 km comes around, the parts would have worn down a bit and loosen up so it doesn't break immediately when those said idiots rev them to redline when cold.

    As for looks, name me one Porsche Speedster over that years that came with racing buckets. Not a 356 version, not a 911, not a 964, certainly not a 993, nor a 997 version. What's spoiling the looks now?

     

    Almost all 356 and 964 Speedsters had bucket seats...at least in Europe.

    Regarding the 991, I would never buy a GT car without buckets, that’s part of the whole experience...imo.

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    Haha never really consider these as buckets, but maybe perhaps they are.

     


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    bobr:

    I have seen a Speedster by me where the owner has replaced the buckets with 18- way seats.

     

    There was such a car's pic posted on Rennlist, maybe the same carSmiley


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    Those aren’t bucket seats.enlightened


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    Whoopsy:
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    Haha never really consider these as buckets, but maybe perhaps they are.

     

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    Re: 991 Speedster

    Whoopsy:
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    Haha never really consider these as buckets, but maybe perhaps they are.

     

     

    Here's a shot of the buckets I remember from my 1973 911 RS/IROC:

     

     

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    The seats are a good likeness, but the fire extinguisher is not original.

    https://www.total911.com/sales-spotlight-porsche-911-carrera-3-0-rsr-iroc/


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    nberry:

    Those aren’t bucket seats.enlightened

    These seats were the first buckets of Porsche...they also used similar ones in their race cars in the 50th...356 SL, 550 Spyder, 356 Speedster Carrera...

    You can believe it. Smiley

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    Here's a shot of the buckets I remember from my 1973 911 RS/IROC:

     

     

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    The seats are a good likeness, but the fire extinguisher is not original.

    https://www.total911.com/sales-spotlight-porsche-911-carrera-3-0-rsr-iroc/


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    Great pic..I didn’t knew that the Iroc cars hat the basic steering wheel.

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    Yes, that is my friend's Speedster. The dealer did a great job in retrofitting the 18-way seats. 


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    blueflame:

     

    Here's a shot of the buckets I remember from my 1973 911 RS/IROC:

     

     

    Screen-Shot-2016-06-13-at-11.07.11.png

    The seats are a good likeness, but the fire extinguisher is not original.

    https://www.total911.com/sales-spotlight-porsche-911-carrera-3-0-rsr-iroc/


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    Mike

     

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    Great pic..I didn’t knew that the Iroc cars hat the basic steering wheel.

    Blueflame

    Thanks.  The wheel looks common but was extra fat in grip thickness.  Same one as used on 3.0 RS.

    I obtained a spare one for my 914/6 project car:

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    Re: 991 Speedster

    nberry:

    Those aren’t bucket seats.enlightened

     

    They were considered 'race seat' back in the days. I don't think they are bucket seats but well in fact they are.

     


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    Haven't posted shots of the Speedster since it arrived home. Enjoy!


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    kiss Another PTS and LTS Speedster.


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    Mike S:

    Haven't posted shots of the Speedster since it arrived home. Enjoy!


    Awesome! I might've overlooked it but which exterior color did you choose?

     

     


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    Congrats on your meerblau Speedster buddy! Enjoy it safely in South Africa! 


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    Love those seat inserts Mike. Are those Porsche factory, or aftermarket? I'be been looking at getting some custom made inserts and wondering if you have any experience with any suppliers.


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    Turned out beautiful Mike; congratulationswink


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    Now this combo is just amazing, Mike. Smiley Love it. Smiley


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