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    AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    Comes out on Friday.

    Place your bets on the time.

    Mine is 7:18


    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    kingjr9000:

    Comes out on Friday.

    Place your bets on the time.

    Mine is 7:18

    I would expect it to be faster than that (>5 sec slower than GT3 and WAY slower than Performante?)


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    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    There will only be a Sachsenring-lap, AutoBild Sportscars won't test at Nordschleife. :)


    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    acrobat:

    There will only be a Sachsenring-lap, AutoBild Sportscars won't test at Nordschleife. :)

    Oh. In that case, i'm betting on a 1:29.5


    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    kingjr9000:
    acrobat:

    There will only be a Sachsenring-lap, AutoBild Sportscars won't test at Nordschleife. :)

    Oh. In that case, i'm betting on a 1:29.5

    1:31 in my opinion, maybe slightly over 1:30. Not sure about less than 1:30.


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    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    Depends what tires they put it on. If it's the new, manufacturer-supplied-for-test-day tire of choice, I bet it does 1:27.


    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    0-200 kph in 9,0 s (hot weather)
    Sachsenring: 1:33,22 min
    Final score: 83,5%


    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    Crap numbers for what it is and how much it costs.


    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    Rubbish. Burn it.


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    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    angry

    LP700-4 and Roadster were tested by Sport Auto (2014) Aventador SV (2015) Aventador S (2017 Autobild)

    Aventador S  vs Aventador LP 700-4 vs Aventador LP 700-4 Roadster vs Aventador SV

    0-100: 2,9  /  3,0  /  3,0  /  3,0
    0-130: 4,4  / -  /  -  /  -
    0-160: 6,0  /  -  /  -  /  6,1
    0-200: 9,0  /  9,0  /  9,1  /  9,1
    0-250: 14,3  /  -  /  -  /  -
    0-300: 24,2  /  23,9  /  24,5  /  25,6

    0-402m: 10,63 @ 217,2 km/h  /  -  /  -  /  -
    0-1000m: 19,20 @ 277,6 km/h  /  -  /  -  /  -

    Weight: 1,808 kg  /  1,794 kg  /  1,807 kg  /  1,746 kg

    Tire: Pirelli P Zero  /  P Zero Corsa  /  P Zero Corsa  /  P Zero Corsa


    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    kingjr9000:

    0-200 kph in 9,0 s (hot weather)
    Sachsenring: 1:33,22 min
    Final score: 83,5%

    Probably more a car to enjoy visually and with the ears Smiley


    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    I would not understand why anybody would buy a S over a Mac720S.......


    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    noone1:

    Crap numbers for what it is and how much it costs.

    Not at all. Car was on normal PZero tires.


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    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    BjoernB:

    I would not understand why anybody would buy a S over a Mac720S.......

    Emotions? I would buy a Huracan Performante over the 720S, hell...I would keep my R8 over the 720S. Smiley


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    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    bluelines:

    Rubbish. Burn it.

    Smiley Smiley


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    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    At Sachsenring

    1. McLaren 675LT - 1:30,52
    2. Lamborghini Aventador SV LP 750-4 - 1:31,79
    3. Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4 - 1:32,84
    4. Lamborghini Aventador S - 1:33,22
    5. Audi R8 V10 Plus - 1:33,46
    6. Porsche 997 GT2 RS - 1:33,51
    7. Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4 - 1:34,84


    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    MKSGR:
    kingjr9000:

    0-200 kph in 9,0 s (hot weather)
    Sachsenring: 1:33,22 min
    Final score: 83,5%

    Probably more a car to enjoy visually and with the ears Smiley

    You must be jokking Smiley


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    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    BiTurbo:

    At Sachsenring

    1. McLaren 675LT - 1:30,52
    2. Lamborghini Aventador SV LP 750-4 - 1:31,79
    3. Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4 - 1:32,84
    4. Lamborghini Aventador S - 1:33,22
    5. Audi R8 V10 Plus - 1:33,46
    6. Porsche 997 GT2 RS - 1:33,51
    7. Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4 - 1:34,84

    Oh boy... The friggin Aventador S was on normal street tires (PZero) because the certification for the semi-slicks wasn't ready yet. I blame Lamborghini for this "disaster" because they don't seem to have a clue how the public works in the time of internet and social media. People aren't interested in details, they look at the numbers and are done.

    Lamborghini should have never provided a testcar for AutoBILD Sportscars without sport tires.

    Look at McLaren: They openly(!) refused to provide a 540S testcar because they said(!) that they do not want to loose again vs. Porsche. The comparison was supposed to be against the 991.2 Turbo (not S). This is not a rumor, this is a fact. McLaren knows how the media attention works and they avoid everything which could put them into a bad light. Lamborghini apparently doesn't have a clue about this...or they just don't care. Whatever.


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    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    RC:
    bluelines:

    Rubbish. Burn it.

    Smiley Smiley

    No problem, I´ll take it even burned Smiley


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    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    RC:

    Oh boy... The friggin Aventador S was on normal street tires (PZero) because the certification for the semi-slicks wasn't ready yet. I blame Lamborghini for this "disaster" because they don't seem to have a clue how the public works in the time of internet and social media. People aren't interested in details, they look at the numbers and are done.

    Lamborghini should have never provided a testcar for AutoBILD Sportscars without sport tires.

    Look at McLaren: They openly(!) refused to provide a 540S testcar because they said(!) that they do not want to loose again vs. Porsche. The comparison was supposed to be against the 991.2 Turbo (not S). This is not a rumor, this is a fact. McLaren knows how the media attention works and they avoid everything which could put them into a bad light. Lamborghini apparently doesn't have a clue about this...or they just don't care. Whatever.

    Their typical customers Smiley Smiley

    http://jalopnik.com/5893665/meet-the-most-stereotypical-lamborghini-owner-in-the-world

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfM9ZPOFegQ

    When you have these kind of owners with that type of attitude, don't expect Lambo to update their transmission and reduce weight. It's basically the same car with minor updates, that's how I see it Smiley

    I wouldn't consider 0.5 ~ 1.0s in acceleration mind blowing with close to 1800 kg Smiley but if I was in a position to choose between a Lambo and the competition which has switched to Turbochargers, I'd rather wait for them to drop a DCT in the V12 or an optional Manual Transmission, otherwise it's the Performante + GT3 w/Manual.

    No matter how many times they'll say the ISR has been improved and shifts a lot faster, it still gets a big fat zero next to a DCT Transmission.


    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    I assume that developing a DCT for the remaining years of life isn't worth it.

    We are going to see DCT in the next Aventador generation, I am pretty sure about it.


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    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    That's the main problem, it takes them a decade to do the right thing enlightened

    I still hear of some going into limp mode, which is very annoying and PITA if no recovery is nearby.


    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    RC:
    noone1:

    Crap numbers for what it is and how much it costs.

    Not at all. Car was on normal PZero tires.

    You claim the new Pzeros are amazing, but now they are just "normal"?

    The latest Pzeros are said to be on par with the old Corsas.


    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    noone1:
    RC:
    noone1:

    Crap numbers for what it is and how much it costs.

    Not at all. Car was on normal PZero tires.

    You claim the new Pzeros are amazing, but now they are just "normal"?

    For normal roads...yes...amazing, incl. in the rain (not even sure the Aventador S has the PZ4 but I assume it does).


    The latest Pzeros are said to be on par with the old Corsas.

    Who said that? Certainly not me. You are confusing the PZero N1 tires for latest Porsche models with the ordinary PZero PZ4. The Porsche versions are great in the dry but kind of suck on wet pavement. Since Sport Auto abandoned the wet testing, I assume Porsche and other manufacturers thought: What the heck, let's concentrate on dry performance, what do we care about rainy roads since all our drivers are real pros and can measure the depth of a water puddle by just looking at them?! Smiley

    The new Corsa N0 (Porsche) is also an excellent tire but I don't have a clue how good (or bad) the Corsa is on other cars, like for example the new Huracan Performante (would love to see a review with the Corsa but I'm afraid in the case of the Performante, all reviews will be done with the optional Trofeo R).


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    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    New info

    These new P Zeros with "L" specification were developed only for Lambos, they are very close to the old Corsa in terms of grip and performance, but much better at wet conditions. Corsa is still an option.

    And as a reminder: this is the 4th quickest time by a car on normal road tyres at Hockenheimring...

     


    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    I didn't say the Aventador S was slow. It is only unfortunate that Lamborghini chose to let car journalists review this car on road tires, while most other car mamufacturers choose to use semi-slicks or even specifically designed semi-slicks to achieve the best times possible.

    In the end, the test results (numbers) count because 95% of the readers out there aren't like us here, they do not care about the details (tires, etc. used), they care about the numbers only!


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    Re: AutoBild Aventador S supertest

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O70lfhGIky4

    Sachsenring laptime at 4:00

    http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/sachsenring


     
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