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Re: Status of Manual Transmission
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Ben_FR said:
Any idea on a manual transmission 430 will appear? (any pics yet?) Also, any idea on what the percentage of manuals vs. F1 will be for the 430 compared to the 360?
Thanks.
As far as I know, Ferrari hasn't built one single manual for a customer yet. I also haven't seen one single pic. IMHO the percentage of manual will be between 10 and 20% for the 430. For the 360 manual was about 25 to 30% I guess.
Re: Status of Manual Transmission
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Ben_FR said:
Any idea on a manual transmission 430 will appear? (any pics yet?) Also, any idea on what the percentage of manuals vs. F1 will be for the 430 compared to the 360?
Thanks.
Several FNA reps at the LA show said they had seen 3-pedal cars at the factory, no idea when they'll be delivered. Ratio is said to be 80:20 F1:3-pedal.
Gary
Re: Status of Manual Transmission
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tdf360 said:Quote:
Ben_FR said:
Any idea on a manual transmission 430 will appear? (any pics yet?) Also, any idea on what the percentage of manuals vs. F1 will be for the 430 compared to the 360?
Thanks.
Several FNA reps at the LA show said they had seen 3-pedal cars at the factory, no idea when they'll be delivered. Ratio is said to be 80:20 F1:3-pedal.
Gary
Gary,
do you get a F430? And if so, 6-speed as your Modena or F1?
Re: Status of Manual Transmission
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Bad TT said:
I ordered a 6 spd. 13th on that list.
Tell me more. Why do you prefer the manual instead of Ferrari's "highly sophisticated" F1? (if I look at the current F430 promotion, one starts to think Ferrari isn't keen to sell any manual at all...)
BTW, CCM or steel brake?
Re: Status of Manual Transmission
430 manual is already here.
The info I got from my Ferrari contact is that the Ferrari engineers didn't want the 430 to have a manual gearbox. It's the marketing department that forces them to do so because some clients still prefer it.
I think it's important that Ferrari offers both, unlike Aston.
But you can tell it's an add on, as you can see from the pic of the 412 manual gearbox posted.
I took that pic a while ago. As soon as I go back to Ferrari France I'll see if I can take a pic of a manual 430. But it looks after market, shame, like put on rather than designed for it.
And to answer you question, yes, the 430 manual is already out of course, same time as the F1 and some clients have been delivered already in France.
The proportion so far is 15%.
They mostly do it for the UK clients where the proportion of clients for manual is expected to be approx 40%. The Brits are purists!
The info I got from my Ferrari contact is that the Ferrari engineers didn't want the 430 to have a manual gearbox. It's the marketing department that forces them to do so because some clients still prefer it.
I think it's important that Ferrari offers both, unlike Aston.
But you can tell it's an add on, as you can see from the pic of the 412 manual gearbox posted.
I took that pic a while ago. As soon as I go back to Ferrari France I'll see if I can take a pic of a manual 430. But it looks after market, shame, like put on rather than designed for it.
And to answer you question, yes, the 430 manual is already out of course, same time as the F1 and some clients have been delivered already in France.
The proportion so far is 15%.
They mostly do it for the UK clients where the proportion of clients for manual is expected to be approx 40%. The Brits are purists!
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Re: Status of Manual Transmission
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Rossi said:
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Gary,
do you get a F430? And if so, 6-speed as your Modena or F1?
I'm on the list, don't know when my number will come up. I haven't made a final decision but I'm leaning toward the 6-spd. One factor I want to explore is whether the 6-spd cars will have the full functionality of the e-diff and mannetino. I assume so but there may be some differences according to some.
Gary
Re: Status of Manual Transmission
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Fanch said:
430 manual is already here.
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As soon as I go back to Ferrari France I'll see if I can take a pic of a manual 430.
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And to answer you question, yes, the 430 manual is already out of course, same time as the F1 and some clients have been delivered already in France.
Would be great! Pics are always welcome!
BTW: does ist look exactly the same as in the 612?
Re: Status of Manual Transmission
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Is it of any personal help for you?
IMO it's interesting that ferraris technicans prefer the F1 and marketing tells them that there's still need for a manual. i'd have guessed that it's the other way round: marketing only favors the F1 and only some die hard car nuts in the engineering department care about the manual.
and the 612 manual picture is interesting... haven't seen one before. if the F430's manual will look like this, it's THE reason to order the F1
but i have still hopes that the classic tranny will be better integrated, like in the 360.
Re: Status of Manual Transmission
Obiously one of the first manual F430 has been spotted in Munich (s/n 140934, red/black). Unfortunately no pic was taken, but the one who saw it said that he believes, tranny is more 612-like, what means it looks more like an add-on than properly integrated in the centre console as in case of the 355 for example.
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