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    Re: Call from the Ferrari dealer

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    Crash said:
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    nberry said:
    "F430-successor (2009) according to the article with more power + "significantly" less weight (compared to F430) - Euro prices (Coupé) said to increase from 150K to 175k (to make room for the Dino)"

    Significantly less weigh could create problems with DOT in the US. I wonder what materials they will be using. The CGT is state of the art technology and it still weighs almost 3200 lbs. The 430 is around 3300lbs. This should be interesting.

    Thanks for all the information.



    Nick, if Rossi's information about the new car being significantly more expensive is correct, this might mean much more CF in the new car. The 430 already has an aluminum chassis, correct?



    I think it would be great to have a small Ferrari with lots of CF and reduced weight, but I don't think it's possible. Prices for producing such a car would be much too high if you ask me.

    Re: Call from the Ferrari dealer

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    Rossi said:
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    Crash said:
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    nberry said:
    "F430-successor (2009) according to the article with more power + "significantly" less weight (compared to F430) - Euro prices (Coupé) said to increase from 150K to 175k (to make room for the Dino)"

    Significantly less weigh could create problems with DOT in the US. I wonder what materials they will be using. The CGT is state of the art technology and it still weighs almost 3200 lbs. The 430 is around 3300lbs. This should be interesting.

    Thanks for all the information.



    Nick, if Rossi's information about the new car being significantly more expensive is correct, this might mean much more CF in the new car. The 430 already has an aluminum chassis, correct?



    I think it would be great to have a small Ferrari with lots of CF and reduced weight, but I don't think it's possible. Prices for producing such a car would be much too high if you ask me.



    Rossi, I meant the F430 successor, not the Dino. You've said that the successor would be much more expensive, so I assumed that this was perhaps the reason.

    Re: Call from the Ferrari dealer

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    Crash said:
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    Rossi said:
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    Crash said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    "F430-successor (2009) according to the article with more power + "significantly" less weight (compared to F430) - Euro prices (Coupé) said to increase from 150K to 175k (to make room for the Dino)"

    Significantly less weigh could create problems with DOT in the US. I wonder what materials they will be using. The CGT is state of the art technology and it still weighs almost 3200 lbs. The 430 is around 3300lbs. This should be interesting.

    Thanks for all the information.



    Nick, if Rossi's information about the new car being significantly more expensive is correct, this might mean much more CF in the new car. The 430 already has an aluminum chassis, correct?



    I think it would be great to have a small Ferrari with lots of CF and reduced weight, but I don't think it's possible. Prices for producing such a car would be much too high if you ask me.



    Rossi, I meant the F430 successor, not the Dino. You've said that the successor would be much more expensive, so I assumed that this was perhaps the reason.



    I meant the 430-successor too! I guess a car made out of CF would be at least in the Carrera GT price range, which means up to 500k Euro. Even if Ferrari will raise the price of the F430 successor significantly, it would cost around 175k, so no chance to get an all-CF car for that money. Moreover their current top modell 599 GTB uses the alu chassis. So I think we don't have the chance to see another CF-car from Ferrari beside the Enzo.

    For the 430 successor that's what I would wish for the following:

    - car should be smaller, smaller than the current 430 and smaller than the 360 as well
    - a size between the 355 and the 360 would be perfect, something similar to the Gallardo
    - by reducing the size, car will become lighter automatically
    - for the engine I would prefer a 4.8 litres V8 with around 550 horses, a V10 would also be nice but isn't really necessary IMO
    - car should have a more aggressive design than the 360 and a more coherent design than the 430

    Re: Call from the Ferrari dealer

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    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    Crash said:
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    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    Crash said:
    Quote:
    nberry said:
    "F430-successor (2009) according to the article with more power + "significantly" less weight (compared to F430) - Euro prices (Coupé) said to increase from 150K to 175k (to make room for the Dino)"

    Significantly less weigh could create problems with DOT in the US. I wonder what materials they will be using. The CGT is state of the art technology and it still weighs almost 3200 lbs. The 430 is around 3300lbs. This should be interesting.

    Thanks for all the information.



    Nick, if Rossi's information about the new car being significantly more expensive is correct, this might mean much more CF in the new car. The 430 already has an aluminum chassis, correct?



    I think it would be great to have a small Ferrari with lots of CF and reduced weight, but I don't think it's possible. Prices for producing such a car would be much too high if you ask me.



    Rossi, I meant the F430 successor, not the Dino. You've said that the successor would be much more expensive, so I assumed that this was perhaps the reason.



    I meant the 430-successor too! I guess a car made out of CF would be at least in the Carrera GT price range, which means up to 500k Euro. Even if Ferrari will raise the price of the F430 successor significantly, it would cost around 175k, so no chance to get an all-CF car for that money. Moreover their current top modell 599 GTB uses the alu chassis. So I think we don't have the chance to see another CF-car from Ferrari beside the Enzo.

    For the 430 successor that's what I would wish for the following:

    - car should be smaller, smaller than the current 430 and smaller than the 360 as well
    - a size between the 355 and the 360 would be perfect, something similar to the Gallardo
    - by reducing the size, car will become lighter automatically
    - for the engine I would prefer a 4.8 litres V8 with around 550 horses, a V10 would also be nice but isn't really necessary IMO
    - car should have a more aggressive design than the 360 and a more coherent design than the 430



    Yes, that would make for a certain success. Just wondering where this is all going to end. Engine power can't climb indefinitely.

    Re: Call from the Ferrari dealer

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    Crash said:
    Yes, that would make for a certain success. Just wondering where this is all going to end. Engine power can't climb indefinitely.



    Very true. The horse power doesn't seem to end, limousines with more than 600hp, sportscars reaching 1000hp, I really don't know.

    Re: Call from the Ferrari dealer

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    Rossi said:
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    Crash said:
    Yes, that would make for a certain success. Just wondering where this is all going to end. Engine power can't climb indefinitely.



    Very true. The horse power doesn't seem to end, limousines with more than 600hp, sportscars reaching 1000hp, I really don't know.



    When I will spot the first brake-parachute on the Autobahn, I'll know that they've gone over the top

    Re: Call from the Ferrari dealer

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    Porsche-Jeck said:
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    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    Crash said:
    Yes, that would make for a certain success. Just wondering where this is all going to end. Engine power can't climb indefinitely.



    Very true. The horse power doesn't seem to end, limousines with more than 600hp, sportscars reaching 1000hp, I really don't know.



    When I will spot the first brake-parachute on the Autobahn, I'll know that they've gone over the top



    Can't be that long...

    Re: Call from the Ferrari dealer

    we already see some spoilers that opens flaps to reduce speed while braking ,airplane style , like on the veyron and slr.. the parachute will come

    Re: Call from the Ferrari dealer

    Isn't the chassis from the 430 a modified 360's chassis??? if they make a complete new aluminium chassis its possible to save height .
    I think that the new Dino will have a V& , but its just me guessing the future.

    Re: Call from the Ferrari dealer

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    rosso nuvola said:
    Isn't the chassis from the 430 a modified 360's chassis??? if they make a complete new aluminium chassis its possible to save height .
    I think that the new Dino will have a V& , but its just me guessing the future.



    Yes, 360 and 430 share the same chassis. I really hope the 430 successor will be a little bit smaller, both length and width.

    The new Dino (or whatever it will be called, I heard something of FXY, but that may be the internal code only) surely will have the V8 with approximately 420hp.

     
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