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    GT3 RS on track

    Hi guys!

    I was back yesterday from my trip to the US, and had a very hard and boring task ahead of me: racking up the last 400 kms for break in, in order to arrive at today's Monza trackday able to use all the powerband on offer from Weissach's flat 6.

    I went out with fellow Rennteamer MaxT, and we opted for a journey consisting of: high speed highway, followed by very curvy and technical highway(which was wet!!), and sinuous coastal B-road.
    The RS behaved superbly, attacking the curvy part of the highway with great composure and body control, even on a wet slippery surface.
    We had a very funny moment when I exited a corner with full opposite lock and very sideways, only to find a policeman who was controling traffic that, not believing what he was seeing , jumped right in the middle of the street to stop us and gave us not one but two tickets...

    Going back home in the evening I finally surpassed the 1000 kms magic barrier, and it was time to let all hell break loose!!!
    What an engine!I felt it very torquey and full in every gear, but the joy really lays above 6000 revs.The thing just gets propelled above that threshehold, while there is a noticeable hardening of the sound to go with it.
    The way it accelerates even at very high speeds is incredible for a NA engine, suffice to say that I could easily get 318 kmh on the digital speedo with 7300 rpms on the clock!
    You need a firm hand at these speeds, since the chassis already comes with a fairly aggressive suspension set up, with noticeable camber both front and rear.In comparison the GT2 came with a much more foolproof type of set up from the factory, allowing it to be more planted at these speed, this is a fair tradeoff to have a type of turn in a GT2 driver would dream of...

    And now to the real test: the track.
    And what better track than our own playground, one of the fastest circuits in the world: Monza racetrack.
    I was adamant that I wouldn't have any laps timed, I wanted this day to be an encounter and an approach to the nature and limits of the car, and thought that lap times would put too much pressure.
    During the first run I tried to stay under 7000 revs, to acclimatise with the car, and also because the temperature was near 0 and surface very slippery.The first thing to impress me was the stopping power: this system coupled with the relative low weight of the RS gives it a tremendous stopping power, better than the Modena with Pagid black pads, and better than the GT2.I was enjoying it so much that I started to brake later and later and eventually cooked up the pads a bit. But that is only down to my own nature, the system was really standing up greatly to the task.
    During the second run I went out with MaxT and we did some very nice and clean laps together, I'm very happy that he's handled the tricky transition from the M3 to the GT3 extremely well, and was already prooving to be very quick on his yellow beast.
    During the 3rd run I had a nice encounter with a well driven Mitsubishi EVO7 RS Sprint with semi slick tyres, and at thi moment I realised what a weapon the GT3 RS is: I played with the Mitsu for a couple of laps, but as I started to up the pace the white EVO Sprint was just a distant memory...
    Even though the brake pedal had lenghtened considerably due to my first laps' eagerness, the brakes were still performing well so I decided to go out for another session.
    Even though traffic was horrible at this time I was able to push the envelope a bit more, and really work the RS in the bends at (sometimes over) the limit, the first thing you notice about in corner behaviour, is that the turn in is very sharp:
    to let you understand the dynamic and response, it's like having a lot of camber, on the straight ahead the steering feels a bit light and aloof, but as soon as you think of cornering you find yourself diving for the apex, so much that you have to be quick to correct any approach of the back end, even on turn in.Mid bend the composure is astonishing, body control is more race car than street car.Traction is simply enormous, and even if oversteer is provoked at corner exit it is easily catchable.But this is not a car you want to fool around with, it' s just so effective!
    One minor let down though are the tyres: if compared to regular street tyres, they are very nice and grippy even handle well in the rain.But don't expect a level of grip close to that of real semi slick tyres like Michelin Cup, or even the regular Corsa.All in all they are a perfect winter trackday tyre.

    Ok so some of you know me: I couldn't resist and timed a couple of laps, and I'm glad to say that even if hampered by heavy traffic I already bettered my best time with the Modena by one second.

    Oh, by the way, a Challenge Stradale was also present today, driven by a very cocky supposed Challenge driver.
    His best was 5 secs behind...

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    Hi Luigi, Thanks for sharing this great experience with us.
    I Love it...Enjoy this Great car of yours. By the way can you tell me which Pagid Pads you where using and if the rotors where The Steel or The PCCB System.

    Ciao
    Peter

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    Quote:
    We had a very funny moment when I exited a corner with full opposite lock and very sideways, only to find a policeman who was controling traffic that, not believing what he was seeing , jumped right in the middle of the street to stop us and gave us not one but two tickets...



    For what? There is a rule against travelling sideways in the roads?

    Sounds like you are enjoying your GT3RS to the fullest. Congratuations and keep having fun!

    Oh, you might want to consider putting the OEM tyres to one side to use in serious wet weather track events. The thinking is that it might not be easy to get exact replacements of those tyres. Meanwhile, probably better to get regular "R" tyres for dry use.

    Thanx for the wonderful report!

    Stephen

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    Luigi...you forget me

    The GT3 and GT3 RS looks great and fast!

    Congratulations!

    Ciao
    Dario



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    luigi,

    thanks for your great report! my GT3 RS won't see a racetrack before spring next year, so it's really nice to virtually be a guest on the track in your car!

    i've just checked the autobahn performance on the weekend and reached 315 kph (speedo) easily. too much traffic prevented more, but it was still going...

    salute
    zz

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    Luigi,

    Great write-up. Thanx very much!

    Just out of curiosity, what WAS your lap time in Monza? I'm wondering how much a good driver in a GT3 RS 'looses' in comparison to let's say the F1 pole this year, which was at 1:20.963 I think.

    TIA

    Gregor

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    Great report, thanks for sharing.

    J.Seven

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    As usual...he gave the report, I show you the photos!!




    Wow - didn't expect to see a Corvette in Italy...


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    Dario: I didn't forget you, I didn't want to mention you because you were way too fast in those straights and I felt jealous...

    Gregor: My time was 2.14.8 with a lot of traffic.To give you some reference a very well driven EVO 7 Sprint on semi slicks got a best time of 2.19.5 that day and a Challenge Stradale driven by a supposed Challenge driver got a best of 2.19.The fastest car was a Westfield XTR2 driven by a very good driver on Avon rubber, which I think dipped under 2.12.

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    What a great report thanks for sharing

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    Great post and photos. Now that we've sent over a few more Ford GTs, can we please have a GT3 RS or two?

    I have no doubt but that US customers will buy more than a few for track use only, if that can be done - and I assume it can.

    Sad but true, from a recent AutoWeek:

    <<"The most demanding is the United States, because you have the silliest laws."

    VW Board member in charge of R&D, professor Wilfried Bockelmann, on certifying cars for sale in different world markets.>>

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    Thanks...now i'm happy for all the day!!

    Ciao
    Dario

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    hi to all!. Great Report.
    Only a question: Where did you take the pics?
    (I mean in which circuit? )

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    Luigi,

    I'm IMPRESSED! 2:14.8 is excellent . How often do you drive in Monza?
    Unfortunately, I can only make it to that track once a year , but I absolutely loved it every time. Any chance you might be there in early August 2004? Would be great to finally meet you in person and specifically seeing ya drive your 'baby'. I envy you....

    Gregor

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    Quote:
    Gregor: My time was 2.14.8 with a lot of traffic.



    Luigi, we still need you as a board Moderator, be careful out there. Fantastic time, indeed.

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    The pics were taken in "Varano de' Melegari" the day after Monza; we had another great track day!

    In Monza I only have photos of my car but not of Luigi's!

    This is a pic of my car from the "Variante Ascari" in Monza:



    P.S. We didn't have helmets on because it was the first lap and we were just checking if the tarmac was in good condition!

    Cheers
    Max T.

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    Thanks for the compliments guys, but they really should go to Porsche's engineers for making a car that performs so well.
    There is still quite some time to be shaved, from this first outing, but I promise I won't be too reckless...

    Gregor: I go to Monza roughly 3/4 times a year, it's not the most technical circuit, but it is a good test for skills as well as "cojones", since you are always going extremely fast and any mistake is bound to be a nasty one...Unfortunately I definetely won't be there in August.

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    Wow! Your car must be awesome! I loved the pics with Max's yellow 2003 GT3! Both cars are really nice! Have you driven both? What about the differences between those two? BTW, your license plate is swiss (Ticino) but in your profile it's written Italy...? I'm wondering because I live in Switzerland and I thought the RS wasn't available right now...

    Have a nice day!

    Mouse

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    The RS is available in Switzerland, albeit all are sold already.
    Mine was 2nd or 3rd in the Country.

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    Thanks, I didn't know that! Anyway, great car Luigi! Have tons of fun with it! I really hope to go to Monza one of these days, maybe next year! I'll tell you my laptimes!

    Bye bye!

    Mouse

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    Luigi - Do you have any idea what lap times that Corvette C5 was doing at Monza? It's not the higher perforance Z06 version, but I'm curious if it was fast.

    Thanks!

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    The Corvette shot Max posted wasn't made in Monza, but at Varano de Melegari racetrack, a very short and twisty track near Parma.
    I don't know the times of the Corvette, but judging by the fact that we could only see him for a quarter of a lap I would say very poor lap times...

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    luigi,

    are your 6point harness and full cage installed all the time or just for track use? i just heard that the 6point harness is NOT allowed for street use in germany unfortunately (i didn't know that until now), that's why i ask. or is your RS a dedicated track-day-only-machine anyway?

    regards; zz

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    So i was right i remember Varano kerbs a little bit

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    I have the front part of the cage as well as both driver and passenger 6 point harness in place even for street use...

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    good job!

    ma in quanti forum ci si trova?


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    Quote:
    I have the front part of the cage as well as both driver and passenger 6 point harness in place even for street use...



    excellent!

    i'm not sure though if this is the right thing for me -- but at least i have to try it out. just ordered a matching schroth 6point harness for the co-driver and next week my dealer will install everything (full cage, fire extinguisher, harnesses).


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    Quote:
    luigi,

    are your 6point harness and full cage installed all the time or just for track use? i just heard that the 6point harness is NOT allowed for street use in germany unfortunately (i didn't know that until now?




    zzoba,
    you may already know this now, but there are two types of 6point harness available:
    1) FIA-approved racing harness, not street legal due to twist-release, as supplied with GT3, and
    2) street-legal press-button-release version, not FIA-approved for racing use.
    The latter is available as a Porsche Tequipment item.
    fritz

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    Quote:
    you may already know this now, but there are two types of 6point harness available:
    1) FIA-approved racing harness, not street legal due to twist-release, as supplied with GT3, and
    2) street-legal press-button-release version, not FIA-approved for racing use.
    The latter is available as a Porsche Tequipment item.
    fritz



    thanks fritz!
    actually i didn't know... until now. i'll ask my dealer about the street legal harness
    zz

     
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