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    A WORD FOR NEW ORLEANS

    I've been in New Orleans a long time ago. I loved this city.
    Condolences to the victims.
    Fate's cruelty should make human being more solidair.
    NON IGNARA MALI, MISERIS SUCCURRERE DISCO.

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    I second that cartouche, I was just in N.O. Aug.14-19, to visit a friend.. she's a nurse, and of course had to stay at Charity hospital. They are working in 90 degree conditions (inside the hospital), no running water, and are bathing with baby wipes. In addition to all the regular patients, she has got several rescuers (police, nat'l guard, etc) who have come in with gunshot wounds from their rescue efforts. The generators have failed, they can't get gas, and the dead bodies are being stored in a room that is not refrigerated. Her family was lucky to get out, but she is stuck, doing Gods work. I would humbly recommend everyone to try and help out in some way, whether its donations to the red cross, or other types of relief efforts. I know that everyone on this board has been blessed, including me.. thanks for listening

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    I agree guys!

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    this just in from a physician-family friend of mine:

    Subject: Re: thoughts and prayers

    Thanks to all of you who have sent your notes of concern and your prayers. I am writing this note on Tuesday at 2PM . I wanted to update all of you as to the situation here. I don't know how much information you are getting but I am certain it is more than we are getting. Be advised that almost everything I am telling you is from direct observation or rumor from reasonable sources. They are allowing limited internet access, so I hope to send this dispatch today.

    Personally, my family and I are fine. My family is safe in Jackson, MS, and I am now a temporary resident of the Ritz Carleton Hotel in New Orleans. I figured if it was my time to go, I wanted to go in a place with a good wine list. In addition, this hotel is in a very old building on Canal Street that could and did sustain little damage. Many of the other hotels sustained significant loss of windows, and we expect that many of the guests may be evacuated here.

    Things were obviously bad yesterday, but they are much worse today. Overnight the water arrived. Now Canal Street (true to its origins) is indeed a canal. The first floor of all downtown buildings is underwater. I have heard that Charity Hospital and Tulane are limited in their ability to care for patients because of water. Ochsner is the only hospital that remains fully functional. However, I spoke with them today and they too are on generator and losing food and water fast. The city now has no clean water, no sewerage system, no electricity, and no real communications. Bodies are still being recovered floating in the floods. We are worried about a cholera epidemic. Even the police are without effective communications. We have a group of armed police here with us at the hotel that are admirably trying to exert some local law enforcement. This is tough because looting is now rampant. Most of it is not malicious looting. These are poor and desperate people with no housing and no medical care and no food or water trying to take care of themselves and their families. Unfortunately, the people are armed and dangerous. We hear gunshots frequently. Most of Canal street is occupied by armed looters who have a low threshold for discharging their weapons. We hear gunshots frequently. The looters are using makeshift boats made of pieces of styrofoam to access. We are still waiting for a significant national guard presence.

    The health care situation here has dramatically worsened overnight. Many people in the hotel are elderly and small children. Many other guests have
    Have unusual diseases. They are unfortunately . 'We have better medical letter. There are ID physicians in at this hotel attending an HiV confection. We have commandered the world famous French Quarter Bar to turn into an makeshift clinic. There is a team of about 7 doctors and PA and pharmacists. We anticipate that this will be the major medical facility in the central business district and French Quarter.

    Our biggest adventure today was raiding the Walgreens on Canal under police escort. The pharmacy was dark and fool of water. We basically scooped the entire drug sets into gargace bags and removed them. All uner police excort. The looters had to be held back at gun point. After a dose of prophylactic Cipro I hope to be fine.

    In all we are faring well. We have set up a hospital in the the French Qarter bar in the hotel, and will start admitting patients today. Many with be from the hotel, but many with not. We are anticipating to dealing with multiple medical problems, medications and and acute injuries. Infection and perhaps even cholera are anticipated major problems. Food and water shortages are iminent.

    The biggest question to all of us is where is the national guard. We hear jet fignters and helicopters, but no real armed presence, and hence the rampant looting. There is no Red Cross and no salvation army.

    In a sort of cliché way, this is an edifying experience. Once is rapidly focused away from the transient and material to the bare necessities of life. It has been challenging to me to learn how to be a primary care phyisican. We are under martial law so return to our homes is impossible. I don't know how long it will be and this is my greatest fear. Despite it all, this is a soul edify experience. The greatest pain is to think about the loss. And how long the rebuid will. And the horror of so many dead people .

    PLEASE SEND THIS DISPATCH TO ALL YOU THING MA Y BE INTERSTED IN A DISPATCH From the front. I will send more according to your interest. Hopefully their collective prayers will be answered. By the way suture packs, sterile gloves and stethoscopes will be needed as the Ritz turns into a MASH

    GH

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    I have not posted in a very long time.

    My hometown is Mobile, Alabama which is about 130 miles east from where the eye of Katrina passed over in Louisiana and Mississippi. Even that far away our downtown area was flooded with 11 feet of water and most people have wind damage.

    And its not just New Orleans who is suffering. This catastrophe was the worst in US history according to the American Red Cross. See for yourself -

    Various Pictures of Coast/Casinos in Mississippi:









    A horrible photo of New Orleans:


    If anyone wishes to make a donation to the America Red Cross click HERE.

    According to sources the death toll may number in the 1000s. Many more have lost everything and have no where to live or go as both New Orleans and Mississippi coastal areas are uninhabital. Those numbers are insane for the modern times in the USA.

    God Bless.

    Sincerely,
    RDL

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    I sent your post to MSNBC. Hopefully this will help.

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    CNN also.

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    These last ten months haven't been very much pleasant: the Tsunami, the unusual floods anf fires in Europe these past weeks and now the catastrophy in the US and another hurricane coming to Japan.

    As I could see on TV last night, the situation in Louisiana is extremely difficult, my heart and throughts are with all the victims, their families and those still waiting to be rescued.

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    My prayers go out to all those suffering.

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    Quote:
    igzaklee said:
    this just in from a physician-family friend of mine:

    Subject: Re: thoughts and prayers

    Thanks to all of you who have sent your notes of concern and your prayers. I am writing this note on Tuesday at 2PM . I wanted to update all of you as to the situation here. I don't know how much information you are getting but I am certain it is more than we are getting. Be advised that almost everything I am telling you is from direct observation or rumor from reasonable sources. They are allowing limited internet access, so I hope to send this dispatch today.

    Personally, my family and I are fine. My family is safe in Jackson, MS, and I am now a temporary resident of the Ritz Carleton Hotel in New Orleans. I figured if it was my time to go, I wanted to go in a place with a good wine list. In addition, this hotel is in a very old building on Canal Street that could and did sustain little damage. Many of the other hotels sustained significant loss of windows, and we expect that many of the guests may be evacuated here.

    Things were obviously bad yesterday, but they are much worse today. Overnight the water arrived. Now Canal Street (true to its origins) is indeed a canal. The first floor of all downtown buildings is underwater. I have heard that Charity Hospital and Tulane are limited in their ability to care for patients because of water. Ochsner is the only hospital that remains fully functional. However, I spoke with them today and they too are on generator and losing food and water fast. The city now has no clean water, no sewerage system, no electricity, and no real communications. Bodies are still being recovered floating in the floods. We are worried about a cholera epidemic. Even the police are without effective communications. We have a group of armed police here with us at the hotel that are admirably trying to exert some local law enforcement. This is tough because looting is now rampant. Most of it is not malicious looting. These are poor and desperate people with no housing and no medical care and no food or water trying to take care of themselves and their families. Unfortunately, the people are armed and dangerous. We hear gunshots frequently. Most of Canal street is occupied by armed looters who have a low threshold for discharging their weapons. We hear gunshots frequently. The looters are using makeshift boats made of pieces of styrofoam to access. We are still waiting for a significant national guard presence.

    The health care situation here has dramatically worsened overnight. Many people in the hotel are elderly and small children. Many other guests have
    Have unusual diseases. They are unfortunately . 'We have better medical letter. There are ID physicians in at this hotel attending an HiV confection. We have commandered the world famous French Quarter Bar to turn into an makeshift clinic. There is a team of about 7 doctors and PA and pharmacists. We anticipate that this will be the major medical facility in the central business district and French Quarter.

    Our biggest adventure today was raiding the Walgreens on Canal under police escort. The pharmacy was dark and fool of water. We basically scooped the entire drug sets into gargace bags and removed them. All uner police excort. The looters had to be held back at gun point. After a dose of prophylactic Cipro I hope to be fine.

    In all we are faring well. We have set up a hospital in the the French Qarter bar in the hotel, and will start admitting patients today. Many with be from the hotel, but many with not. We are anticipating to dealing with multiple medical problems, medications and and acute injuries. Infection and perhaps even cholera are anticipated major problems. Food and water shortages are iminent.

    The biggest question to all of us is where is the national guard. We hear jet fignters and helicopters, but no real armed presence, and hence the rampant looting. There is no Red Cross and no salvation army.

    In a sort of cliché way, this is an edifying experience. Once is rapidly focused away from the transient and material to the bare necessities of life. It has been challenging to me to learn how to be a primary care phyisican. We are under martial law so return to our homes is impossible. I don't know how long it will be and this is my greatest fear. Despite it all, this is a soul edify experience. The greatest pain is to think about the loss. And how long the rebuid will. And the horror of so many dead people .

    PLEASE SEND THIS DISPATCH TO ALL YOU THING MA Y BE INTERSTED IN A DISPATCH From the front. I will send more according to your interest. Hopefully their collective prayers will be answered. By the way suture packs, sterile gloves and stethoscopes will be needed as the Ritz turns into a MASH

    GH


    I just saw on CNN that everyone got out of the Ritz last night.

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    OMG check this out: http://www.riotvideo.com/Cops_Looting_New_Orleans_Walmart_after_Katrina.html

    Absolute disgrace, in my opinion.

    "Criminologists noticed decades ago that a building with one shattered window soon has none that are intact. That is what is playing out in the extreme in New Orleans.

    ``One unrepaired broken window is a signal that no one cares, and so breaking more windows costs nothing,'' James Q. Wilson and George L. Kelling wrote in a 1982 Atlantic Monthly article. "

    And the attitude of the Police, despicable, I couln't imagine that happening in my country.

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    Danny G said:
    OMG check this out: http://www.riotvideo.com/Cops_Looting_New_Orleans_Walmart_after_Katrina.html

    Absolute disgrace, in my opinion.

    "Criminologists noticed decades ago that a building with one shattered window soon has none that are intact. That is what is playing out in the extreme in New Orleans.

    ``One unrepaired broken window is a signal that no one cares, and so breaking more windows costs nothing,'' James Q. Wilson and George L. Kelling wrote in a 1982 Atlantic Monthly article. "

    And the attitude of the Police, despicable, I couln't imagine that happening in my country.



    To protect and to serve. Themselves, that is.

    What a disgrace.

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    True, I was down in N.O a few weeks ago.. their law enforcement is worlds apart from what we have here.. corruption is very widespread, a somewhat common occurrence..not to mention the lawlessness that was occurring BEFORE the disaster with the general crime, it is outta control

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    They could learn a lesson or two from the good people of NYC, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama...

    No, these criminals are just excrement.

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    Red Cross all the way. Not much more we can do from Europe I'm afraid.

    Having lived in NC for over 4 years and hopefully returning in the near future, even the comparatively harmless exposure to an ice storm and couple of weak hurricanes has brought awareness and weariness regarding nature's forces in the Southeastern United States to my mind. I've also seen Andrew's devastation first hand as I happened to be in Miami 2 weeks afterwards. Suffice to say that if my state gov tells me to run, I pack my emergency box into the trunk and do just that. However, I can only imagine what it means for the people of NO not to have a place they could come back to. I hope the relief efforts kick in soonish, and the displaced folks will be told where they can find shelter/food for now and money to re-build for later.

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    SVNSVN said:
    They could learn a lesson or two from the good people of NYC, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama...

    No, these criminals are just excrement.



    Excrement...? Coming from your a$$ this time !
    I was astonished not to read no reaction of rennteamers, specially americans, three days after the disaster in New Orleans, because when bombs exploded in London, the reaction was immediate.
    Now, I'm scared to understand...
    We rennteamers are not black, and we are not poor.
    Vae victis in Imperium ?

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    So Sloppy..., you condone what the looters are doing!
    WTF!
    You're no better than them then! CRAP! I was referring to the LOOTERS only! Learn to read!

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    BTW, How much help has "CRAZYLAND" provided!? You're probably all talk and no action!

    Yeah, at least it's coming out of my right orifice- you have it coming from your f'ing mouth!

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    How would you know the ethnicity of rennteamers! And what does that have to do with anything? Race baiting!?

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    After an expected catastrophy, to survive during 5 days in a devastated city, without any help from the authorities, you and your childrens and family need maybe to drink something , to eat something , and to wear dry clothes too. And that's more important than private property IMHO. And when you quit your house or shop without any regard for the people who can't run away because they don't have no car, no money, no education, can you so severely blame them to rob some gold you left behind ?
    Here in crazyland, we pay crazy taxes (on cars, on gas for example : more than 6.5 $ a gallon...), to provide help to our poor people instead of asking to shoot them as "looters"
    Here in crazyland you can't find guns in supermarkets...
    Here in crazyland, when the army comes to help fellow citizens in humanitarian missions, they don't wear weapons
    Here in crazyland, when we give lessons of democracy, at least we're disarmed.
    I expressed my solidarity to all the victims, including the looters, it's a fact. Victims of the hurricane and victims of the organized misery.
    Your jails are proportionally 400% more populated than ours. A different way to fix the social problems...
    Thank you to help me to understand why I have to pay those crazy taxes
    EU send you gas from his strategic reserves so you'll not have to pay it as much as we do...

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    sloppy cartouche said:
    After an expected catastrophy, to survive during 5 days in a devastated city, without any help from the authorities, you and your childrens and family need maybe to drink something , to eat something , and to wear dry clothes too. And that's more important than private property IMHO. And when you quit your house or shop without any regard for the people who can't run away because they don't have no car, no money, no education, can you so severely blame them to rob some gold you left behind ?
    Here in crazyland, we pay crazy taxes (on cars, on gas for example : more than 6.5 $ a gallon...), to provide help to our poor people instead of asking to shoot them as "looters"
    Here in crazyland you can't find guns in supermarkets...
    Here in crazyland, when the army comes to help fellow citizens in humanitarian missions, they don't wear weapons
    Here in crazyland, when we give lessons of democracy, at least we're disarmed.
    I expressed my solidarity to all the victims, including the looters, it's a fact. Victims of the hurricane and victims of the organized misery.
    Your jails are proportionally 400% more populated than ours. A different way to fix the social problems...
    Thank you to help me to understand why I have to pay those crazy taxes
    EU send you gas from his strategic reserves so you'll not have to pay it as much as we do...



    Naive statements.

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    Quote:
    SVNSVN said:
    So Sloppy..., you condone what the looters are doing!
    WTF!
    You're no better than them then! CRAP! I was referring to the LOOTERS only! Learn to read!



    I don't wish to provoke you, but I think what Sloppy was trying to explain was that none of us have any real idea how we would behave in such a terrible situation. I have children and believe in God, but if I saw them crying in hunger in a situation of such total social collapse, I would not hesitate to steal food or clothing. What is shocking is not that the looters are excrement, but how quickly a so called civilsed society collapses into complete anarchy.

    I think in Europe, we look at all the people affected as victims, and are just shocked by what we are seeing. I do think the gun culture in america is something you need to stop. When i was in the states just a few months ago my cousin was able to buy a gun just by showing his driving licence. For us Europeans, that is just unacceptable.

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    Quote:
    eddie said:
    Quote:
    SVNSVN said:
    So Sloppy..., you condone what the looters are doing!
    WTF!
    You're no better than them then! CRAP! I was referring to the LOOTERS only! Learn to read!


    I do think the gun culture in america is something you need to stop. When i was in the states just a few months ago my cousin was able to buy a gun just by showing his driving licence. For us Europeans, that is just unacceptable.



    I think for us Americans, it's unacceptable to not be able to defend ourselves and our families if the situation arises. Do you see that point at all? Maybe in Europe there is not the problem of crime and so households don't have to worry about homes being broken into. I don't know, you tell me. But can you imagine what the crime rate in America would be if all of a sudden, all law abiding citizens had their guns removed from their homes? Do you think we would be more or less safe.

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    Quote:
    eddie said:
    Quote:
    SVNSVN said:
    So Sloppy..., you condone what the looters are doing!
    WTF!
    You're no better than them then! CRAP! I was referring to the LOOTERS only! Learn to read!



    I don't wish to provoke you, but I think what Sloppy was trying to explain was that none of us have any real idea how we would behave in such a terrible situation. I have children and believe in God, but if I saw them crying in hunger in a situation of such total social collapse, I would not hesitate to steal food or clothing. What is shocking is not that the looters are excrement, but how quickly a so called civilsed society collapses into complete anarchy.

    I think in Europe, we look at all the people affected as victims, and are just shocked by what we are seeing. I do think the gun culture in america is something you need to stop. When i was in the states just a few months ago my cousin was able to buy a gun just by showing his driving licence. For us Europeans, that is just unacceptable.




    Sorry, just absolutely no excuse for lawlessness! Chaos ensues...

    My support, thoughts and prayers are with the MANY very good people helping, and the victims doing the best they can and abiding by the law!

    Very much agree Alan!

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    Good luck taking my guns!

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    Normally constituted neocortex wanted !
    NOW !

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    eddie,

    You also probably have the sense to get your family out of Dodge! Walk if you must! There was very ample warning- many choose to ignore. Of course some didn't have a choice due to medical reasons. The poverty argument is pretty shaky- I've seen many "healthy" people, and many with nice clothes/shoes. This ,in part, is what happens when you rely too much on the government!

    Again,many are being very noble- of course, as usual, the focus is always on the negative!

    "If you've got an issue..." Sorry, Boss!

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    None of us have been put in the situation we see on TV. What we don't see is that 95% of the people in New Orleans are good people that will NOT break the law except for extreme circumstances eg(taking food or water to survive). What TV is showing is the 5% that will do anything at anytime. Many of these 5% probally already have a criminal background. We should not pass judgement on these people until we have lived in their shoes.

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    Yeah, check yours!

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    Exactly, as noted in my post!

     
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