May 19, 2008 7:03:45 PM
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Alex_997TurboRSC said:
You are entitled to your opinion dude; but I seriously couldn't be happier with the sound of my car now, and the ENORMOUS jump in power/torque with the kit. So CG/RST must be doing something right.
More often than not in life: you get what you pay for. Which is why Ruf and CG/RST are pretty much the two most expensive Porsche tuners.
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STRADALE said:
TUV, ISO, Basically BS.
TÜV is mandatory in Germany, apart from annual, bi- or triannual checks for every motorized vehicle on public roads new components have to have a European or national approval, otherwise the ensurance would be voided.
So unlike the effect of ISO standardisation (which might be debateable), the TÜV approval ensures a substantial functional assurance and compliance. You could've known that.![]()
May 19, 2008 7:17:27 PM
May 19, 2008 7:19:24 PM
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STRADALE said:
TUV, ISO, Basically BS.
TÜV is mandatory in Germany, apart from annual, bi- or triannual checks for every motorized vehicle on public roads new components have to have a European or national approval, otherwise the ensurance would be voided.
So unlike the effect of ISO standardisation (which might be debateable), the TÜV approval ensures a substantial functional assurance and compliance. You could've known that.![]()
Sounds the same to me. The CG exhaust is a good example. the Loud version isnt TUV. Why? It's made exactly the same way isnt it? So they just havent gotten to paying them for their BS stamp of approval yet I guess. It's BS. It doesnt quantify or qualify quality. You can make the crappiest widget in the world but if you comply w/ making it exactly the same way every time you can pay enough to have the audit, etc. and get your certification. On the other side of it if you asked 20 experts what was the very best widget co. in the world & 20 replied xyz co. if they havent paid TUV then they're not TUV Approved. Dun no a lot about it but sure sounds like a meaningless certification.![]()
May 19, 2008 7:35:03 PM
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Alex_997TurboRSC said:
Sorry, I have spent way too much time in the US and or talking to US colleagues/friends on a daily basis that 'dude' is now more common than 'mate' in my vernacular.
My point that I was trying to make was that if the best (most expensive) tuners add a sports air-filter in their Stage 1 (exhaust+filter) kits, then there must be a very good reason for doing so.
I don't know if the sound difference is further amplified by the ECU remap though![]()
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STRADALE said:
You can make the crappiest widget in the world but if you comply w/ making it exactly the same way every time you can pay enough to have the audit, etc. and get your certification.
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STRADALE said:
Cann,
Please keep us informed. I'm curious about the fitment. I haven't done anything yet because of what I've heard about trying to get them to align properly so wondering if a fellow OCD owner will be satisfied. If you're happy I know I'll be happy.
They look freakin awesome.![]()
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cannga said:
Gregg,
Even if it fits stock or Cargraphic (which it does beautifully on AAHTT's Turbo), I think the only way to know for sure is to actually try it with your Tubi. Fabspeed does allow refund, minus 20% "restocking" fee.
The quality is truly outstanding. My only mild criticism is it does feel heavy, but I don't know how much stock tip weighs. Your Tubi is so light so this shouldn't be too much of a problem. Hope this helps.
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STRADALE said:
Cann,
Please keep us informed. I'm curious about the fitment. I haven't done anything yet because of what I've heard about trying to get them to align properly so wondering if a fellow OCD owner will be satisfied. If you're happy I know I'll be happy.
They look freakin awesome.![]()
Jun 19, 2008 5:47:51 PM
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cannga said:
Ah... it's about time northern California & 6speedonline's premier Porsche shop gives Cargraphic a try!
34 posts! One would think you would be on rennteam more often considering your English connection.Just kidding Alex.
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cannga said:
Ah... it's about time northern California & 6speedonline's premier Porsche shop gives Cargraphic a try!
34 posts! One would think you would be on rennteam more often considering your English connection.Just kidding Alex.
hehe thanks;) For real though we've been very much onboard with Cargraphic's parts. They make some very well engineered stuff. And it sounds good too:P
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TT Gasman said:
The first aftermarket exhaust company that makes a high quality single round/oval tip for the 997TT is gonna make a lot of money. Anybody listening out there, Fabspeed, Cg, Tubi GMG....??
Aug 1, 2008 4:44:30 PM
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Alex_997TurboRSC said:
Less lag now?!
Aug 1, 2008 4:48:06 PM
Aug 1, 2008 4:55:44 PM
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With Bilstein and Cargraphic, I now humbly declare my baby to be perfect.![]()
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Your forgot your HRE wheels dude, they are the best bit
...and you will want the BMC air-filter and CG ECU remap at some point I guarantee![]()