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    Clubsport or not?

    That is the question Smiley

     It's strange. Scuderia it's a very good car. But that damn red GT3.mkII makes me think...

    I am thinking about going back, yes Smiley

    So, clubsport package pros and cons, please. Help me Smiley


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    Re: Clubsport or not?

    Grip

    Comfort

     

    And yes the new GT3 is the hottest car of the moment.


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    Re: Clubsport or not?

    Pentium:

    So, clubsport package pros and cons, please. Help me Smiley

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    Clubsport package is free, right?  Why wouldn't you do it?  I think it's a great idea (wish we had it in USA).


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    Re: Clubsport or not?

    Yes, it's free but that is the point. What do I gain? What do I lose?

    I must tell you everyone loves to look at my Scuderia seat belts and hates to wear them. GT3 ones are much harder to use than the 4 points Scuderia's.

    Also the fire extinguisher tears any lady's socks Smiley

    Finally, the half-roll cage (it's not the full FIA one), adds weight and diminishes rear side visibility. Also God forbid to need any kind of maintenance in that area... you need to take the seats out, than the roll cage before you can access the computers that are located in the back (just an example).

    The only plus I found was safety.... and I don't like to think about that one... Smiley

    And maybe, I've heard there are some race tracks that do not allow you to enter without this equipment...

    Also don't forget that if you select the package the seats are cloth only. You lose the nice leather outer rim of the seat (alcantara in the middle).


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    Re: Clubsport or not?

    If the purpose of the car will be predominantly public road forget the CS pack.

    If road use will be only incidental, like getting to and from the track, then the  balance tips in favour of CS.


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    Re: Clubsport or not?

    reginos:

    If the purpose of the car will be predominantly public road forget the CS pack.

    If road use will be only incidental, like getting to and from the track, then the  balance tips in favour of CS.


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    It's not where you're going, it's how you get there that counts

            Yes, exactly.... I goes down to this. if you use it for track go with CS, if for the road, you don't need it


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    Re: Clubsport or not?

    Gnil:
    reginos:

    If the purpose of the car will be predominantly public road forget the CS pack.

    If road use will be only incidental, like getting to and from the track, then the  balance tips in favour of CS.


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    It's not where you're going, it's how you get there that counts

            Yes, exactly.... I goes down to this. if you use it for track go with CS, if for the road, you don't need it


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    +1 Agree with both Smiley

            


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    Re: Clubsport or not?

    The decision is a little easier for us here in Aus... We order it only when there is significant track use intended because it is a $12k option despite the brochure saying it is free (presumably in Europe)...

    Re: Clubsport or not?

    i wouldn't get the cs package. car is sfe enough as is. if i were to use it as a track tool i would hae more done to it than what comes with the cs pckage.


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    Re: Clubsport or not?

    No CS for the GT3.

    That's belong to the RS. Smiley


    Re: Clubsport or not?

    In the UK it's a bit of an illusion that it is free....

     You must spec the Carrera GT Bucket seats before you can get the free Clubsport pack... These seats are a £3k option.

     Can't see the point of not going full RS if the car is to be used as a track toy ? Be interesting to see what the new RS offers, as if it also has the engine mounts and possibly the axle lifter as standard, with the above seats the price difference may be easier justified (Assuming it is still £14k) ?

     Mine will do about four track days a year so i will go for the leather and folding bucket seats (As in the current GT2).

      


    Re: Clubsport or not?

    Porsche's logic: it's free IF you select the 3.000 euros seats.... Smiley

    So it's the same in Europe....

    Anyway, no Clubsport package for me.

    I have no idea what to do about the lift system and the engine mounts...

    Also the color... I like red, white, silver and GT silver.

    But to pay SO much for the GT silver... and if I get a scratch who knows if the local dealer can get it right...

    Damn!

    Just to give you an idea: I configured a Carrera S with PDK, Sport+, etc. I got 114K. 20K in options! I feel cheated!

    The GT3 on the other hand it's around 133K with everything I want or just 125K in white, without engine mounts and the axle lift system.

    And there are bad roads in Romania, trust me. And the GT3 is even lower than my Scuderia...

    I truly don't know what to do for the first time in my life (talking about cars of course).

    Anyway, thanks everyone for your present and future comments :D



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    Re: Clubsport or not?

    Pentium:

    Porsche's logic: it's free IF you select the 3.000 euros seats.... Smiley

    So it's the same in Europe....

    Anyway, no Clubsport package for me.

    I have no idea what to do about the lift system and the engine mounts...

    Also the color... I like red, white, silver and GT silver.

    But to pay SO much for the GT silver... and if I get a scratch who knows if the local dealer can get it right...

    Damn!

    Just to give you an idea: I configured a Carrera S with PDK, Sport+, etc. I got 114K. 20K in options! I feel cheated!

    The GT3 on the other hand it's around 133K with everything I want or just 125K in white, without engine mounts and the axle lift system.

    And there are bad roads in Romania, trust me. And the GT3 is even lower than my Scuderia...

    I truly don't know what to do for the first time in my life (talking about cars of course).

    Anyway, thanks everyone for your present and future comments :D



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            If I were you, I would have kept the Scuderia and go for a facelifted Turbo Smiley

    I know, I know you haven't asked me Smiley

    Romanian roads are similar to Turkish roads so I understand what you mean.

    So I would have gone with GT2 seats without CS pack. I wouldn't pay much for the paint and go for the white which is the best color for GT3 anyway and it is Free Smiley



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    Re: Clubsport or not?

    The clubsport package is available with GT2 seats too!

    What I'd like to know is does the clubsport package include a submarine bar beneath the seat for the 6-point harness?

    Pros: 6-point harness (if sub bar is included otherwise it's useless), preparation for a master switch, fire exinquisher.

    Cons: Nomex seat covering, noisy roll-cage.


    Re: Clubsport or not?

    I asked you too. That's why I wrote above: "thanks everyone for your present and future comments" Smiley

    Back on the subject: I don't like turbo's. Really don't. I understand that soon they will be all over us because of emission restrictions but as long as I can have a comparable non-turbo car... I will go for it. Also I am starting to believe that I like rather be slower with a manual and feel more alive than using any kind of paddles. And Scuderia's gearbox IS the BEST. By far. But still... there is something missing. The experience makes me feel more detached. Right now, the only thing keeping me from buying a GT3 is the ground clearance...

    But will see. I have only 4.500km with the Scuderia so I believe I will wait until next spring before letting her go.



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