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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Gauss:

    How Dave Gordon's GT3 would look today (same spec) Smiley

    There's even a younger, better-looking version of me driving it 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    DaveC:

    Just got word that my .2 GT3 PTS was approved.  However looks like April/May build with June/July delivery. Not so bad since I am still enjoying my .2 C2S. I was pretty hot for the Touring Package but rumors seem to have it morphing into more than just a wing delete which doesn't appear to be what I am seeking.  Well by the time I get fthe car all will have long been revealed. By the way went with 226 lindgrun aka chartreuse.  Acid green stitching and piping (18 way) on seat w/ acid green GT3 on headrests. Lot of people asking for carbon fiber for the black satin accents (CXX) but evidently no has been the consistent answer. Might look good, might be too much?

    "Don't worry about avoiding temptation, as you grow older it will avoid you"  Churchill

    Congrats, Dave! Should look amazing!


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    I'm still waiting to see if I can secure a 991.2 GT3 from my OPC. The DP seems to have changed three times since I bought my car so not sure if I'll be successful despite 10+ cars and all associated service/maintenance at the same OPC. Would love for it to be PTS as it'd be a keeper (never had a GT car before). 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    A couple of days ago I saw a Birch Green Turbo cab. It looked fabulous. I am kicking myself for not going for PTS. But to be honest, having to pay $13,000 to paint a car which is already painted and not knowing if and when you can get it painted is offensive to me. I refuse to bend over and grab my ankles just to get the paint color I want.enlightened


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Truthfully it was not difficult to secure an allocation or the PTS. I am a very long term customer of my dealer but I am certainly no Porsche VIP. The process is long and not inexpensive but it is a custom order and that never comes without added expense. At least so far this .2 go around has been straightforward and pain free, not like the ,1 GT3 experience whatsoever. Of course, the day is still young.........................


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    "Don't worry about avoiding temptation, as you grow older it will avoid you"  Churchill


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    DaveC:

    Truthfully it was not difficult to secure an allocation or the PTS. I am a very long term customer of my dealer but I am certainly no Porsche VIP. The process is long and not inexpensive but it is a custom order and that never comes without added expense. At least so far this .2 go around has been straightforward and pain free, not like the ,1 GT3 experience whatsoever. Of course, the day is still young.........................

    somewhat related to that - how are you treated when trading in a PTS car, knowing how traditionally conservative the dealers are for cars they order for their own inventory?   I could, for example, see the PTS premium disappearing into a discount if the sales manager starts along the lines... "you know we are going to have a hard time finding someone who wants this colour...".  


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    4trac:
    DaveC:

    Truthfully it was not difficult to secure an allocation or the PTS. I am a very long term customer of my dealer but I am certainly no Porsche VIP. The process is long and not inexpensive but it is a custom order and that never comes without added expense. At least so far this .2 go around has been straightforward and pain free, not like the ,1 GT3 experience whatsoever. Of course, the day is still young.........................

    somewhat related to that - how are you treated when trading in a PTS car, knowing how traditionally conservative the dealers are for cars they order for their own inventory?   I could, for example, see the PTS premium disappearing into a discount if the sales manager starts along the lines... "you know we are going to have a hard time finding someone who wants this colour...".  

    I think everything sells at the right price. My dealer and I get along because I don't expect to make money on cars and he doesn't practice medicine. PTS is like anything else, the first buyer makes the choice and more often than not pays the price to acquire and to sell.Cars are a hobby and source of pleasure for me so I expect to pay to play. Once a car is treated as an investment it inevitably losses all or part of its raison d'etre because thrashing a sports car and maintaining  "investment grade" are often mutually exclusive.


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    "Don't worry about avoiding temptation, as you grow older it will avoid you"  Churchill

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Couldn't agree more!


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Many congrats, DaveC kiss


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    DaveC:
    4trac:
    DaveC:

    Truthfully it was not difficult to secure an allocation or the PTS. I am a very long term customer of my dealer but I am certainly no Porsche VIP. The process is long and not inexpensive but it is a custom order and that never comes without added expense. At least so far this .2 go around has been straightforward and pain free, not like the ,1 GT3 experience whatsoever. Of course, the day is still young.........................

    somewhat related to that - how are you treated when trading in a PTS car, knowing how traditionally conservative the dealers are for cars they order for their own inventory?   I could, for example, see the PTS premium disappearing into a discount if the sales manager starts along the lines... "you know we are going to have a hard time finding someone who wants this colour...".  

    I think everything sells at the right price. My dealer and I get along because I don't expect to make money on cars and he doesn't practice medicine. PTS is like anything else, the first buyer makes the choice and more often than not pays the price to acquire and to sell.Cars are a hobby and source of pleasure for me so I expect to pay to play. Once a car is treated as an investment it inevitably losses all or part of its raison d'etre because thrashing a sports car and maintaining  "investment grade" are often mutually exclusive.


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    "Don't worry about avoiding temptation, as you grow older it will avoid you"  Churchill

     

    +1Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Spyderidol:
    DaveC:

    Just got word that my .2 GT3 PTS was approved.  However looks like April/May build with June/July delivery. Not so bad since I am still enjoying my .2 C2S. I was pretty hot for the Touring Package but rumors seem to have it morphing into more than just a wing delete which doesn't appear to be what I am seeking.  Well by the time I get fthe car all will have long been revealed. By the way went with 226 lindgrun aka chartreuse.  Acid green stitching and piping (18 way) on seat w/ acid green GT3 on headrests. Lot of people asking for carbon fiber for the black satin accents (CXX) but evidently no has been the consistent answer. Might look good, might be too much?


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    "Don't worry about avoiding temptation, as you grow older it will avoid you"  Churchill

     

    I guess it will look similar to this:

    Totally TITZ Dave, both Sun and Sky approveSmileySmiley

    And your comment:  

    Once a car is treated as an investment it inevitably losses all or part of its raison d'etre because thrashing a sports car and maintaining  "investment grade" are often mutually exclusive.

    is the core ideaSmiley

    1. order the color and spec you want
    2. wind the Tits off it

     

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    +1 kiss


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    I think DaveC's wise comments should be stitched into the seats of every GT "collectible" Porsche.  kiss


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    2017 Range Rover Sport S/C,  2009 Porsche 911S


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    There will be some interesting GT3 colour schemes...

    Smiley Smiley Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Video link: https://youtu.be/uLVZrXWeyKw


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    IMG_0048.JPG 

    My  inspiration for the PTS was Graham Rahal's 911R.  Chartreuse is a little softer than birch green and a little more yellow with olive under some lighting.  


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    "Don't worry about avoiding temptation, as you grow older it will avoid you"  Churchill

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    There's a cool site with some examples of old Porsche paint codes for those considering PTS...

    Link: http://www.elferclassic.de/technik/farben/plack-select.php

    Blue...

    Link: http://www.elferclassic.de/technik/farben/plack-blau.php

    Red...

    Link: http://www.elferclassic.de/technik/farben/plack-rot.php

    Green...

    Link: http://www.elferclassic.de/technik/farben/plack-gruen.php



    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    It's time to make the GT3 motor the base motor and scrap all the little Turbo 3 liters. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    yes please


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    I believe this is the 911T reported some time ago here and I also believe it was reportedly to have the turbo 3L.


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    "Don't worry about avoiding temptation, as you grow older it will avoid you"  Churchill


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    no interest if turbo.

    somewhat goes against Porsche comments to make the cars more exciting?


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    If they make it 3.0L turbo they better get their umbrellas out cause "purist" and 3.0L Turbo do not go in the same sentence, will be seen as a sell-out, not to mention the inevitable comparison to the 991R which does have the NA engine of the GT3, which will further place this version in a worse position image wise. 

    They have a fantastic engine now in the GT3.2, doesn't make sense not to use it in such a car, a purist car for sheer driving pleasure as they are describing it, its not like they are not going to sell less units than with the 3.0L Turbo engine, and probably at a higher profit margin per unit too.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    purist does not necessarily mean cheap(er)


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Carlos from Spain:

    If they make it 3.0L turbo they better get their umbrellas out cause "purist" and 3.0L Turbo do not go in the same sentence, will be seen as a sell-out, not to mention the inevitable comparison to the 991R which does have the NA engine of the GT3, which will further place this version in a worse position image wise. 

    They have a fantastic engine now in the GT3.2, doesn't make sense not to use it in such a car, a purist car for sheer driving pleasure as they are describing it, its not like they are not going to sell less units than with the 3.0L Turbo engine, and probably at a higher profit margin per unit too.

    I agree, but purists are hard to satisfy. If the GT3 4L starts turning up several variants (Speedster, Sport Classic, Touring Package, 911T) the complaints will center around the "dilution of the GT brand". Smiley


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    "Don't worry about avoiding temptation, as you grow older it will avoid you"  Churchill


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    DaveC:
    Carlos from Spain:

    If they make it 3.0L turbo they better get their umbrellas out cause "purist" and 3.0L Turbo do not go in the same sentence, will be seen as a sell-out, not to mention the inevitable comparison to the 991R which does have the NA engine of the GT3, which will further place this version in a worse position image wise. 

    They have a fantastic engine now in the GT3.2, doesn't make sense not to use it in such a car, a purist car for sheer driving pleasure as they are describing it, its not like they are not going to sell less units than with the 3.0L Turbo engine, and probably at a higher profit margin per unit too.

    I agree, but purists are hard to satisfy. If the GT3 4L starts turning up several variants (Speedster, Sport Classic, Touring Package, 911T) the complaints will center around the "dilution of the GT brand". Smiley

    True, but using the even more common 3.0L Turbo shared with the entire Carrera line would please them even less then Smiley


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    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    They could use the more rare version of the 3.0l turbo which is in the GTS indecision 


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Just make the GT3 engine optional in all models. $30,000 powerkit. 

    If this were an option how much should Porsche charge for it?  


    Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

    Leawood911:

    Just make the GT3 engine optional in all models. $30,000 powerkit. 

    If this were an option how much should Porsche charge for it?  

    Pretty sure price difference for buying spare engine is much higher than $30k between 4.0 and 3.0...

    Just buying GT3 makes more sense...

    Main problem with making 4.0L available as an option in every model is it will ruin the average fuel consumption and emissions ratings for the company...
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