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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    DaveGordon:

    Nope. Strung me along for a couple of months and finally got a 'no'.

    Was your 991GT3.1 the part ex, Dave.

    Unlucky, bud...Smiley


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Sucks... :(


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    DaveGordon:

    Nope. Strung me along for a couple of months and finally got a 'no'.

    Sorry to hear, Dave. However I wouldn't dispair. If you don't get one from the first batch, you'll get one from the next. Keep fighting Smiley


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    2018 White 911 GT3 - Delivery scheduled for April.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Kobalt:

    Sucks... :(

    +1. Still can’t believe he does not get one Smiley

    please Mr Porsche , can you make that Dave get s one before the summer Holliday’s. He will use it on roads and tracks. It will not end up on autoscout.ch 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Just pisses me off that half these VIP cars will end up on Autoscout 1 day later for 400k, where they will sit for ever because no-one is stupid enough to pay that. There are still 0km .1RS cars there unsold from launch time.


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    2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Hehe, thanks for the kind comments kiss


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    2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Damn Dave,I can’t wait to go with the three lizards at that restaurant near my home,like the other time.

    hope you can have one of the second run.


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    DaveGordon:

    Hehe, thanks for the kind comments kiss

    Call your dealership every so often, Dave. You be in the hat big time for the second run Smiley....


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    throt:

    Call your dealership every so often, Dave. You be in the hat big time for the second run Smiley....

    Keep telling yourself that as well Hairy One.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile:
    throt:

    Call your dealership every so often, Dave. You be in the hat big time for the second run Smiley....

    Keep telling yourself that as well Hairy One.

    ,,,,

    Well I am in the hat. Cray, what is ‘’the hat’’..?...Smiley..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    throt:
    Cray, what is ‘’the hat’’..?...Smiley..

    I wish I knew, and then I would be sitting in my GT2RS but more importantly 911R. Hopefully the poor man's 911R (aka GT3 Touring) will be here in a couple of weeks.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    DaveGordon:

    No shiny green car for Dave either laugh

    Ridiculous that they cannot meet customer demand. It is not like it is your first Porsche. Brand loyal and repeat customers should be treated well. They might not hang around for longer otherwise...

    On the flip side, I said it before, nothing wrong with your current car. I find Guards Red is nicer than Slime Green anyway Smiley


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    bluelines:
    DaveGordon:

    No shiny green car for Dave either laugh

    Ridiculous that they cannot meet customer demand. It is not like it is your first Porsche. Brand loyal and repeat customers should be treated well. They might not hang around for longer otherwise...

    On the flip side, I said it before, nothing wrong with your current car. I find Guards Red is nicer than Slime Green anyway Smiley

    Hey,,,, I thought you never liked our gen 1’s , remember, well you wasn’t keen on my white one Smiley Smiley...


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile: Hopefully the poor man's 911 (aka GT3 Touring) will be here in a couple of weeks
     

    Smiley,,, life can be tough, bud .......

    Smiley....


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    throt:
    bluelines:
    DaveGordon:

    No shiny green car for Dave either laugh

    Ridiculous that they cannot meet customer demand. It is not like it is your first Porsche. Brand loyal and repeat customers should be treated well. They might not hang around for longer otherwise...

    On the flip side, I said it before, nothing wrong with your current car. I find Guards Red is nicer than Slime Green anyway Smiley

    Hey,,,, I thought you never liked our gen 1’s , remember, well you wasn’t keen on my white one Smiley Smiley...

    I think you are mixing car and person now Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    bluelines:
    throt:
    bluelines:
    DaveGordon:

    No shiny green car for Dave either laugh

    Ridiculous that they cannot meet customer demand. It is not like it is your first Porsche. Brand loyal and repeat customers should be treated well. They might not hang around for longer otherwise...

    On the flip side, I said it before, nothing wrong with your current car. I find Guards Red is nicer than Slime Green anyway Smiley

    Hey,,,, I thought you never liked our gen 1’s , remember, well you wasn’t keen on my white one Smiley Smiley...

    I think you are mixing car and person now Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

    Smiley....Smiley...


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    That sucks Dave... Perhaps a nice 991.2 GT3 is the way to go?


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    1992 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    I wondered about that as well, but it’s all people trying to sell those for a profit, too. Not playing that game on principle.


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    2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    DaveGordon:

    I wondered about that as well, but it’s all people trying to sell those for a profit, too. Not playing that game on principle.

    Ok but asking price is one thing... I noticed that when selling the 997, none move as advertised.


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    1992 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    DaveGordon:

    Just pisses me off that half these VIP cars will end up on Autoscout 1 day later for 400k, where they will sit for ever because no-one is stupid enough to pay that. There are still 0km .1RS cars there unsold from launch time.

    If it were up to me I would take the GT3-2/RS allocations from dealer's hands and assign them directly from factory to the clients, create a point system, the more points you have the higher up you are on the list, the more track events you can prove you attended with a 911 the more points you have, the more miles you made your previous 911 the more points you get, if they are GT3/RS miles even more points, the longer you kept your previous GT car the more points, if you sold it before 6 month you loose a ton of points, etc... poseurs and flippers? don't let the door hit you on your a$$ on the way out, thank you. One can only dream....


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    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Dave, what reason/reasons did your dealer give for not being able to give you an allocation? Did he say if there is a second batch you will have a better chance?

    Carlos, what you're suggesting will never work. Why? Because in the US the dealer is the customer of PCNA not the buyer. The dealer has to make profits on these limited allocation cars and the only way is that you sell to your regular customers who turn the car in for another coveted model as I do. This way the dealer makes money and the sale to the customer and when the customer turns the car back, the dealer sells it yet again often for substantially more than MSRP. 

    I lived with this while in the Ferrari system and now with Porsche. Honestly, they don't want a lot of miles especially track miles on the turned in cars. They sell for much more. It worked for me because I have accessibility to allocations, I don't loss any significant dollars and I get to enjoy the best cars Porsche has to offer. 

    To make this work, you cannot get attached to cars. I never have and never will. They provide me immediate enjoyment until Porsche introduces another more exciting model.kiss


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    I know, don't take me too seriuosly, I was just venting some frustration frrom seeing how guys like Dave dont get an allocation due to the crappy system.


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    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    How are you able to enjoy your "limited" cars without tracking or even driving them as you said yourself because you don't want to put miles on them? 

    Staring at them sitting in your garage?Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    DaveGordon:

    Just pisses me off that half these VIP cars will end up on Autoscout 1 day later for 400k, where they will sit for ever because no-one is stupid enough to pay that. There are still 0km .1RS cars there unsold from launch time.

    Sorry Dave, I hate it too but I hate these people who proudly flipped cars specially GT3s 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxevZP9pUPg


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    They just said that only the VIPs got one and that maybe I could get one next year. I wish I could write that I didn’t care but the fact that it’s 3am here speaks otherwise. Hope it makes their VIP flippers happy.


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    2015 911 GT3, 1964 Type 1


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    DaveGordon:

    Just pisses me off that half these VIP cars will end up on Autoscout 1 day later for 400k, where they will sit for ever because no-one is stupid enough to pay that. There are still 0km .1RS cars there unsold from launch time.

    we have the same here in UAE, tons of cars with delivery miles...still asking a premium which cost more than .2RS where they are expecting like 100 cars split in two dealers... joke! Smiley


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 arriving, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Actually things are different than they were with .1 rs. The VAT played a role and the demand isn’t as big as they think it is. Ordered my GT3 and the dealer mandated that by paying the deposit I will not be able to sell the allocation and must register it under my name. I am glad that this is happening or else I would not have got the  chance to order one this late. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Carlos from Spain:
    DaveGordon:

    Just pisses me off that half these VIP cars will end up on Autoscout 1 day later for 400k, where they will sit for ever because no-one is stupid enough to pay that. There are still 0km .1RS cars there unsold from launch time.

    If it were up to me I would take the GT3-2/RS allocations from dealer's hands and assign them directly from factory to the clients, create a point system, the more points you have the higher up you are on the list, the more track events you can prove you attended with a 911 the more points you have, the more miles you made your previous 911 the more points you get, if they are GT3/RS miles even more points, the longer you kept your previous GT car the more points, if you sold it before 6 month you loose a ton of points, etc... poseurs and flippers? don't let the door hit you on your a$$ on the way out, thank you. One can only dream....

    This is an excellent idea. The current system is highly problematical and has destroyed a lot of loyalty of long-term customers. In the next downturn most of those new buyers who seem attractive to the Porsche dealers these days will be gone - as many of them are just there because they think the GT cars "are a good investment". That is nonsense, of course. The GT cars (all of the 991 generation) are mass produced, i.e. many more made then needed in normal times.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    AP911:

    Actually things are different than they were with .1 rs. The VAT played a role and the demand isn’t as big as they think it is. Ordered my GT3 and the dealer mandated that by paying the deposit I will not be able to sell the allocation and must register it under my name. I am glad that this is happening or else I would not have got the  chance to order one this late. 

    When is your production allocation?

     


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 arriving, 991 GT3 2014(sold)

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    absent:

    How are you able to enjoy your "limited" cars without tracking or even driving them as you said yourself because you don't want to put miles on them? 

    Staring at them sitting in your garage?Smiley

    Let me clarify. First, you’re right I don’t track my cars. Many years ago I did and I witness many accidents often the good driver trying to evade a bad driver but both cars severally damaged. Today car  insurance companies do not insure damage resulting from on track incidents. There is track insurance available but very expensive especially if you don’t track often. Finally, very few owners of Porsche GT cars track their cars. Those that track often have older models designed exclusively for the track. 

    I do put miles on my cars. Within a year close to 5000. The GT cars are weekend cars and not DD. But I do find roads that allow me to exercise the car the way it should. FWIW, my last Ferrari which I bought new I turned in with 15,000 miles on it. kiss

    i assume you’re tracking the GT2RS? Good luck. 🍀 


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