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    sportauto NBR and HHR data online

    Sportauto has now included a complete list of all supertest NBR and HHR results on their web site:

    www.sportauto-online.de/aktuell_U_sport/tuning_-_zubehoer/hxcms_article_%20%20502725_14653.hbs

    Re: sportauto NBR and HHR data online

    Very intriguing....

    Suspect NBR better reflects perf on a twisty, sometimes bumpy mtn road....and HHR is more akin to a smooth, flat track...

    NBR times (adjusting for street tires) of ancient SL55 ('02 v1.0, not '07 v2.0 ), 575, 430 and 997S are essentially identical....and NBR times of 993TT and 360 are simply laughable vs 1000lb+ heavier SL55 v1.0..... ....NBR has curves, right???

    Looking fwd to seeing NBR times for CL63/65 vs 599 vs 997TT Tip....

    Interesting how latest/greatest technologies are producing increasingly converging NBR times for cars w/divergent wts/passive safety/utility/comfort/daily-useability.....we live in an era of spectacular perf/GT/supercars/luxury coupes (or whatever term one prefers for these increasingly multi-dimensional cars)

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    VKSF said:
    Very intriguing....

    Suspect NBR better reflects perf on a twisty, sometimes bumpy mtn road....and HHR is more akin to a smooth, flat track...





    That is correct

    BTW, regarding the potential NBR times of the cars you mentioned, my guess would be:

    599: 7:45
    997TT (Cup Tires): 7:48
    CL 63/CL65: 8:15


    Re: sportauto NBR and HHR data online

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    MKSGR said:
    Sportauto has now included a complete list of all supertest NBR and HHR results on their web site:




    Excellent, thank you

    I find it interesting that the BMW 335i Coupe is only 4 seconds slower than a E46 M3 and 3 seconds slower than a 987 Boxster S around NBR.
    But then it does do 0-170 kph in 21 seconds in third gear, and is as fast from 80-120 kph as a 997 Carrera S in fourth and fifth gear.

    Not bad for a ugly and overweight Bangle creation...

    Re: sportauto NBR and HHR data online

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    temm said:
    Quote:
    MKSGR said:
    Sportauto has now included a complete list of all supertest NBR and HHR results on their web site:




    Excellent, thank you

    I find it interesting that the BMW 335i Coupe is only 4 seconds slower than a E46 M3 and 3 seconds slower than a 987 Boxster S around NBR.
    But then it does do 0-170 kph in 21 seconds in third gear, and is as fast from 80-120 kph as a 997 Carrera S in fourth and fifth gear.

    Not bad for a ugly and overweight Bangle creation...



    Yes, the 335i is great. However, for the price I'd rather just buy a slightly used E55 .

    Re: sportauto NBR and HHR data online

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    MKSGR said:

    BTW, regarding the potential NBR times of the cars you mentioned, my guess would be:

    599: 7:45
    997TT (Cup Tires): 7:48
    CL 63/CL65: 8:15





    That's a bit optimistic for 599. Von Surma driving a Ferrari that fast would upset Porsche.

    I would guess 7:5x.

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    this is excellent, thanks for the link

    Re: sportauto NBR and HHR data online

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    svtrader1 said:
    Quote:
    MKSGR said:

    BTW, regarding the potential NBR times of the cars you mentioned, my guess would be:

    599: 7:45
    997TT (Cup Tires): 7:48
    CL 63/CL65: 8:15





    That's a bit optimistic for 599. Von Surma driving a Ferrari that fast would upset Porsche.

    I would guess 7:5x.



    The LP640 did 7:46. Why should the 599 be slower

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    It is very interesting LP640 did 3 seconds worse than regular Murcie. I think LP has much potential aroun 7.40

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    VGA18 said:
    It is very interesting LP640 did 3 seconds worse than regular Murcie. I think LP has much potential aroun 7.40



    LP640 was a tad faster than the earlier Murcielago. In the test sportauto mentioned that the new (safer) suspension setup can be blaimed for not being able to achieve better lap times. Apparently, the LP640 is much more prone to understeer than its predecessor.

    Re: sportauto NBR and HHR data online

    Just a quick info...

    New Gallardo SL will be faster on both tracks then LP640. Hard to belive? Just wait little bit...

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    KresoF1 said:
    Just a quick info...

    New Gallardo SL will be faster on both tracks then LP640. Hard to belive? Just wait little bit...



    The Gallardo SL is a great car indeed

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    anyone knows what is the ring time for 06 gallardo? (520 hp)

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    dhayek said:
    anyone knows what is the ring time for 06 gallardo? (520 hp)



    Dimitri,

    Unofficially 520hp Gallardo is around 2s faster on the Ring then 500hp version with same Corsa tires. Difference in Hockenheim is that 520hp version is 0.2s-0.3s faster, again with Corsa's...

    So, new MY08 Gallardo or 997 turbo?

    Do not ask me...


    BTW, all this info is from insider in MotorPresse(company that owns both AMS and Sport Auto)...

    You can expect Gallardo SL pretty soon in Sport Auto Supertest with some excellent achievement on both Hockenheim and Nordschleife...

    Re: sportauto NBR and HHR data online

    thanks for the info kreso. i would take the 08 G over the 997tt anytime. some people get annoyed of the attention the G gets on the street , i love it..

     
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