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    M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    Hello together,

    as I'm looking for a new city-toy, I was wondering which one of these cars I should buy (pre owned):

    * M3 Coupe with Competion Package DKG or

    * 1M Coupe

    We do already have an AUDI S4 Avant so I'm looking for a "smaller" car, I'm very tempted by both cars well knowing that each of them has its own special 'thing"...

    Did anyone drive already the 1M and / the M3 in comparison?

    I would highly apreciate if anyone of you could help me with some good hints or driving impressions, many thanks in advance!

    PS: I'm also tempted by a MB AMG C63 Coupe but pricewise its clearly above the BMWs mentioned above Smiley


    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    I had owned a E92 M3 comp. Pack w/DKG for more than 1,5 year and I had driven my friend's 1M.

    M3 is a more sophisticated car, has more depth. The transmission and NA V8 is the best combination that have been offered by BMW. However, it feels more of GT car. It has roomy interior, enough back seat space, comfortable ride on soft setting of EDC, very nice 7 speeddouble clutch which can be both sporty and comfortable. You put it in S6 mode and you will have kick at the back on upshifts and very nice throttle blip on downshift. You put it in Auto mode, and it will just cruise with ease.

    On the other hand, 1M is smaller, has more compact size.It is a joy to drive it but it is a single purpose car. The cabin is simple and looks cheaper when compared with the M3. Also if you are not fan of manual transmission, you will not like it much because manual is the only tranny on the car. On sporty driving, it i huge fun. As you know all the suspension, drivetrain, brakes and chassie come from M3.

     


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    ONUR

    11 E92 M3 CP 

    09 Audi TTS Coupe - 07 997 Carrera S - 05 M3 Coupe - 03 M3 Coupe - 96 M3 Coupe EVO (PASS TIME HISTORY)

     


    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    HI.

     

    I have owned C63 and currently driving a 1M (thanks to WAY.....)  for the past 9 months. I have also driven the E92 M3 manual as well.

     

    first off, for the price (brand new), u cannot beat the fun factor of the 1M.  and going my your nickname "driftalot", the 1M is perfect for you (with traction control off or 1/2 off- which I prefer)

     

    i feels a lot lighter than the M3.  steering feels heavier tho.  gear change about the same.

    speed wise, it's a different feeling.  I fully agree the M3 feels more sophisicated/upmarket.   where the 1M and one u can throw around and not feel bad about it.  the top end isnt anyway as manic as the V8, but being a turbo, the power range is ridiculous, its perfect for city driving.

    to me, they are both as fast.  yes, the V8 is light years ahead and it is one of the sweetest engines (after the c63's LOL!!) but I think even if they squeeze the M3 V8 into the 1M, it wont make it a better car than the M3.

    I am glad BMW only offers manual, cos any auto tranny will wreck this car.... and the manual is a joy to use.  

    I do feel I have to concentrate more in the 1M driving fast compared to the M3.  but I wasnt pushing too hard in the M3 as it wasnt my car..... but boy was it fun!!

    the 1M does gets quite twitchy, esp in the wets (but no more so than the C63 with TC half disabled).  despite reviews of it being snappy cos of the short wheelbase, I didnt find it.   It was also every easy to catch a slip. but I always drive with the MDM on (ie TC half off) so that's cheating.....  

    in terms of looks, the 1M won me over with the ridiculously wide wheel arches!! u really hv to follow one and appreciate how wide this thing is!!  hats off to BMW for making such a production car.

     

    the 1M is a work car and a second car for me.  and for my purpose, it's perfect.  90% of the time it's just me and my work bag.  it's definitely NOT one u want to take your family in.  the back seats are extremely uncomfortable compared to the M3. suspension is harsher than the M3.  even the front seats feels very flimpsy compared to the M3's.

     

    if u compare 2nd hand M3 prices (E90/E92) to a new 1M. it's a tough choice, esp there's not much discount on the 1M (at least in Oz cos they r sold out i think). but I can see you already hv a A4 as a family car, then the exclusiviity of the 1M    probably the way to go.  

     

    so overall, I am happy with the 1M, and I am discovering the joy of driving a hooligan's car once more....

     

    re C63.... it's all engine engine engine....  handful to drive in the wet..... and new tyres every 13000km..... and I would get a second hand four door..... jsut as fast as coupe, and prob cheaper than the BMW/ 1M...

     

    good luck and tell us what you think after test drive!  enjoy!


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    BMW 1 M + C63. 


    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    @pride355 & derder

    many thanks for your replies'n inputs, still I'm unsure which car I should go for..

    Another option would be to take a friends 997.1 4S Coupe fully-opted, let's wait another few weeks and I'll keep you informed!


    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    Go for the M3. Y'll not regret it kiss

    The high reving V8 is a masterpiece and on the way to get buried, as well as the C63 AMG.
    Both are the best of its time.


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    Kind regards, Conny 

    Porsche 997.2 Turbo S  *  BMW X5 M
     

    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    Lord_Driftalot:

    @pride355 & derder

    many thanks for your replies'n inputs, still I'm unsure which car I should go for..

    Another option would be to take a friends 997.1 4S Coupe fully-opted, let's wait another few weeks and I'll keep you informed!

    If I were you I would never ever buy a 997.1 Carrera 4S, especially if it is tipt.


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    ONUR

    11 E92 M3 CP 

    09 Audi TTS Coupe - 07 997 Carrera S - 05 M3 Coupe - 03 M3 Coupe - 96 M3 Coupe EVO (PASS TIME HISTORY)

     


    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    @pride355 it's stick-shift and apart of that fully opted!

    Honestly the Porsche is my last possible choice, actually I'd rather go for the M3 (in almost the same specs as YOURS!! kiss), I would only go for another exterior colour which was growing on me -> http://www.google.at/imgres?um=1&hl=de&client=firefox-a&hs=w7G&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&biw=1440&bih=702&tbm=isch&tbnid=WWtZMRSsM_ImBM:&imgrefurl=http://www.7-forum.com/forum/5/gibts-inzwischen-e32-mattschwarz-bilder-127904.html&docid=aIDDnlIoS9mz7M&imgurl=http://up.picr.de/3269064.jpg&w=655&h=491&ei=cfCTT5zlAcTKswbxtIXCBA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=202&vpy=160&dur=1858&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=44&ty=218&sig=103406985812847633199&page=1&tbnh=155&tbnw=207&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:63

    Also I would change the seats as you did...


    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    A little hint regarding the C63 AMG Coupe: Talk to your local Mercedes dealer, there are lots of used cars in the system and some are Mercedes company cars. Sometimes the mileage is wrong, they claim 6000-9000 km in the description but it is very often below 3000 km (has something to do with internal regulations...). You can also talk about the price, they are willing to go lower.

    I like the M3 a lot and I have to say that traction is way better on the M3 vs. the C63 AMG Coupe but the sound of the C63 Coupe is unbeatable, it puts a smile on my face each and every single day.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (June 2012 delivery), Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    Given your description i'd say for you:

    1. C63 AMG coupe
    2. 1M such a special car, they are sold out and very rare/fun
    3. M3 CP, great car also, just falls behind though

    Hope this helps kiss


    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    the M3 needs to be revved - only with the C63 and 1M you have low torque and t4 every day fun in all gears.....unless you like to wind it up all the time I would agree with Atzporsche.....


    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    Yes, the 1M is a pretty attractive package. Only downside: The car kind of says "here I come", only manual available and the new model could be available soon. My dealer has two 1M loaners for testing and I'm not that convinced that these cars sell that well.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (June 2012 delivery), Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    If you want a quick GT type car then the M3 fits the bill. A sports car the M3 certainly isn't. It's too heavy and cumbersome. The 1M is the exact opposite, a great "point and squirt" sports car for back road twisties but I wouldn't want to tour long distance in one.

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    Porsche 997 Carrera S PDK Aqua Blue / Black - Toyota Yaris D4D  "Clockwork Rat"


    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    Derder, everyday I regret passing that 1M over to you! :P

    Driftalot, from my own experience of the three cars, I say go with 1M.  It is such a fun little package, and makes the M3 feel like a very mature car.  M3 is a better all rounder, but 1M is more fun.  As for C63, I loved the sound on mine.  But to me the M3 is a better "sports car" out of the two if you want to go down that route.


    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    I love the M1, its a car that you will enjoy driving.  However if your looking for a nice relaxing car that will get you A to B the M3 and C63 are both great.  But personally I would go with the M1.  A friend of mine has one as his daily commuter and he loves it.  It is a joy to drive.


    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    As someone stated above, the M3 needs to be kept in the high rpm to enjoy it. It feels too normal when driving around normally, I would find a 535d more exciting to drive around town..


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    throt

    "I didn't do it"


    Re: M3 Competion Package or 1M, what should I go for?

    WAY:

    As for C63, I loved the sound on mine.  But to me the M3 is a better "sports car" out of the two if you want to go down that route.

    The C63 AMG Coupe PP outran the M3 in Hockenheim and by a pretty solid margin. I agree however that the M3 is more forgiving and has a better traction.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S (June 2012 delivery), Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


     
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