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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    The outside sound is for posers, the inside sound for the driver.....

    So what's more important?


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    That is the stupedest thing I ever heard... you can't hear the sound coming from the utside into the cabin? Which anybody that knows anything about sport cars s aware that the outside sound is the good sound that Sportscar lovers appreciate BTW, not the muffled dampened monotone sound inside..  a falsely fabricated-amplified sound in the inside could be argued that that is the one for poseurs...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    In order to increase inside cabin induction sound did anyone replace stock air filters with BMC filters? Any comments are welcome.

    Do you know if the engine bay has sound deadening material? If yes where exactly and how to access it? 

    Thanks. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    acky:

    The outside sound is for posers, the inside sound for the driver.....

    So what's more important?

    I guess that depends on one being a poser or a driver Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    solution.jpg

    problem solved. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Good one!!!


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    I bet they tried that until the test drivers complained too much.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    JimFlat6:

    I bet they tried that until the test drivers complained too much.

    Or died?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    acky:

    The outside sound is for posers, the inside sound for the driver.....

    So what's more important?

    An artificial sound inside is for posers and probably the most embarrassing thing you can do to a sportscar. Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    I guess nobody is interested about BMC air filters...or maybe I didn't post in the right section?! 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    It will void warranties in Europe. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Even tinted windows will void warranty in Europe! Ridiculous...I wish I were born in the 50s ;) 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Rossi:
    acky:

    The outside sound is for posers, the inside sound for the driver.....

    So what's more important?

    An artificial sound inside is for posers and probably the most embarrassing thing you can do to a sportscar. Smiley

    I do not speak from artifical inside sound, I dont like that also.
    But some cars have a good and loud outside sound, but inside muted or drohning or what ever.

    The priority for the exhaust sound designers should be the inside sound not the outside sound.

    But I get your point, a good natural inside sound is almost impossible with bad outside sound.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    acky:
    Rossi:
    acky:

    The outside sound is for posers, the inside sound for the driver.....

    So what's more important?

    An artificial sound inside is for posers and probably the most embarrassing thing you can do to a sportscar. Smiley

    I do not speak from artifical inside sound, I dont like that also.
    But some cars have a good and loud outside sound, but inside muted or drohning or what ever.

    The priority for the exhaust sound designers should be the inside sound not the outside sound.

    But I get your point, a good natural inside sound is almost impossible with bad outside sound.


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    Once again, the ridiculous regulations of the EU are to a large extent the source of blame for the lack of noise as the sound emission standards of automobiles is being dramatically lowered.  


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    DocMo:

    I guess nobody is interested about BMC air filters...or maybe I didn't post in the right section?! 

    Just try it , it will not cost you much but probably not make any difference. I have one on my 997 , but it did not change the sound. I just fitted one on my 964 last week. There I hear/ feel a very slight improvement. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Gnil:
    DocMo:

    I guess nobody is interested about BMC air filters...or maybe I didn't post in the right section?! 

    Just try it , it will not cost you much but probably not make any difference. I have one on my 997 , but it did not change the sound. I just fitted one on my 964 last week. There I hear/ feel a very slight improvement. 

    I had one on my Boxster. More aggressive intake sound. Other than that zero difference.


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    You hear it, when you didn't have the sport exhaust. With sport exhaust even without pressing the button you don't notice it.

    I had them on my 981 S without sport exhaust and it was noticeable with full throttle open, on my GTS it didn't hear any difference. But I didn't drive the car directly before and after, because of bad weather.
     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVeGBiW_py8


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    acky:
    Rossi:
    acky:

    The outside sound is for posers, the inside sound for the driver.....

    So what's more important?

    An artificial sound inside is for posers and probably the most embarrassing thing you can do to a sportscar. Smiley

    I do not speak from artifical inside sound, I dont like that also.
    But some cars have a good and loud outside sound, but inside muted or drohning or what ever.

    The priority for the exhaust sound designers should be the inside sound not the outside sound.

    But I get your point, a good natural inside sound is almost impossible with bad outside sound.


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    for fun: Porsche Boxster GTS

     

    Stop argueing... Just drive the 981 spyder like me, all problems solved: great outside, better even inside , drives like hell SmileySmileySmiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Seven days to go. I can't wait crying

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chjkZ-o5tUw


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    That farting popping noise on the overrun gets annoying quickly. It's just too regular and too predictable, compared to what you would popping you would get from a proper old style sport exhaust.

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Its really hard to capture exhaust sounds over a mic, the one in the video there sounds horrible, on acceleration its sounds like a Golf with an aftermarket exhaust and rust holes on the muffler, but its probably the mic not picking up the full range of frecuencies.

    And I'm not even mentioning the overrun popping, not much of a fan of it at all, and not even on the atmospheric 991, the overrun popping sounded much better on the 996/997.1 with sport exhaust, its more natural and less continuous/frecuent and just ocasional. Fortunately, the PSE in the 991 rarely does overrun poping if you are in normal mode, it only appears when you are in sport mode.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Agree, popping is irritating and artificial...


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    KMM:

    That farting popping noise on the overrun gets annoying quickly. It's just too regular and too predictable, compared to what you would popping you would get from a proper old style sport exhaust.

     

    Agree, the popping, at least from this video, seems tottaly artificial. Never thought you could hear so much the turbo whistle, which is nice.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Popping is just ridiculous on this car. For some reason, it's less ridicoulous on the sls. Sounds 100x better:

    http://youtu.be/PTkWtQJEWBg


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix5cmBaBiNM


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    Great video. It's a shame no professional journalist has done this before. I increasingly get the feeling that auto journalists are a bunch of ...serving the automotive industry! 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    report of GTS coming with 3.0 turbo engine...

    http://www.carscoops.com/2016/04/confirmed-2017-porsche-911-gts-facelift.html


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    jamal al marri:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix5cmBaBiNM

    Good find for this Nick Murray comparison - useful as Nick has some good skills with cameras and especially mike work for sound.... but, in the end he admitted to being pleasantly surprised how good the 991.2 sounds, basically the same conclusion that RC reached back in December.    


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche 911 [991.2]

    EnglishManInNY:

    report of GTS coming with 3.0 turbo engine...

    http://www.carscoops.com/2016/04/confirmed-2017-porsche-911-gts-facelift.html

    That is what most of our local sources have been saying for months - interesting to see it confirmed on those California documents like that.  Guess we should expect around 450 turbo horses?


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