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    Nightmare repair bills; any in 997's future?

    I have an 04 M3 with SMG.

    Common knowledge is that the SMG is gonna be an expen$ive SOB to get work done on. The fact that it is brand new system also makes your nightmares more intense.

    Any new systems on the new 997, 997s that could be the same kinda drama?

    That's why I want to avoid psam, lsd etc. Am tending toward the "plain Jane " Carerra, etc.

    Re: Nightmare repair bills; any in 997's future?

    Man, you need a brighter look on life! you are so negative about everything, relax!


    See? this guy has got the right spirit!
    (no, its not me after getting caught speeding BTW )

    Re: Nightmare repair bills; any in 997's future?

    If it is going to go wrong, it will probably go wrong within the warranty period. Life's too short to worry about such a thing. Porsche are generally pretty solid as far as I'm aware (he says having never owned one........)

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    carlos fromspain said:
    Man, you need a brighter look on life! you are so negative about everything, relax!


    See? this guy has got the right spirit!
    (no, its not me after getting caught speeding BTW )




    heheheheee! Nah, I get paid for figuring out how info systems would, could, should, did fail.

    The warrenty period doesn't factor in because I got the $$ but like everybody else don't like spending it on repairs for "reliable" cars.

    More importantly: I don't have the TIME (like alot of people) to mess around with multiple trips and calls to the service department.

    Great photo!!!!!!! Will _definitely_ try to remember that if I ever get busted!!!!!

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    carlos fromspain said:
    (no, its not me after getting caught speeding BTW )



    So Carlos, if you were not caught for speeding, what did you get caught for?

    Re: Nightmare repair bills; any in 997's future?

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    MaxErnst said:
    heheheheee! Nah, I get paid for figuring out how info systems would, could, should, did fail.




    Info systems, eh? Now I'm beginning to understand your negative attitude.
    Born from professional experience.

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    MaxErnst said:
    Great photo!!!!!!! Will _definitely_ try to remember that if I ever get busted!!!!!



    Re: Nightmare repair bills; any in 997's future?

    If you're living in the US, you won't get the LSD anyway, at least for the near future. And the LSD is nothing new to Porsche.
    PASM is new to Porsche, indeed (the Cayenne system is different) but I don't see anything very expensive.
    Maybe this helps: when I asked my insurance agent about how much the 997 Carrera S would cost me, he looked up the "category" which has been "assigned" by a insurance commission (taking in consideration repair cost after an accident) to the 997. In Germany, the cars are in different categories depending on price tag, repair cost (parts and labour), accident/theft probability and theft protection.
    My 997 Carrera S has been "assigned" to category 27 for a full coverage and I can assure you that 27 is very low over here. This means that repair cost is pretty low and if you look at the new maintenance schedule (1. inspection after 30000 km, exchanging sparks after 90000 km, etc.), I'm pretty sure that the 997 costs you less money than your M3. Another point is also the fact that Porsche is pretty cautious with new electronics gimmicks, this is why they're not usually known for such problems. Best example: the chrono sport package. It took Porsche many years of development and testing to do it right and offer a system which works well without any complications. Now compare it to the M3 stuff.

    The only really expensive thing is the PCCB brake. Not only does this brake cost a lot of money, a replacement disc costs a fortune and trust me, if driven hard, they don't last even close to the formerly claimed 300000 km.
    If the discs are still somehow OK and can be refurbished, replacement cost is much lower.

    I hope this helps a little bit.

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    RC said:
    ...The only really expensive thing is the PCCB brake. Not only does this brake cost a lot of money, a replacement disc costs a fortune and trust me, if driven hard, they don't last even close to the formerly claimed 300000 km.
    If the discs are still somehow OK and can be refurbished, replacement cost is much lower...



    In the US, PCCBs are $8000. Are replacement costs higher than that?

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    RC said:

    Maybe this helps: when I asked my insurance agent about how much the 997 Carrera S would cost me, he looked up the "category" which has been "assigned" by a insurance commission (taking in consideration repair cost after an accident) to the 997. In Germany, the cars are in different categories depending on price tag, repair cost (parts and labour), accident/theft probability and theft protection.
    My 997 Carrera S has been "assigned" to category 27 for a full coverage and I can assure you that 27 is very low over here. This means that repair cost is pretty low


    rc ,for a comparison, what category would be a ferrari or a lamborghini?

    Re: Nightmare repair bills; any in 997's future?

    Just get the extended warranty and don't worry about it....

    Re: Nightmare repair bills; any in 997's future?

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    dhayek said:
    [rc ,for a comparison, what category would be a ferrari or a lamborghini?



    40 is (was) the highest but "exotic" cars like Ferrari and Lamborghini are usually insured on an individual basis and sometimes it is pretty difficult to get insurance for such a car, no matter how much money you have.
    Since I had an international racing license for many years and because of my car past (many high power cars, no accidents for the past 19 years), my insurance put me in a special category of customers who don't need approval for getting insurance for certain cars. I paid 2200 Euro for a tuned (and FULLY declared and technically inspected/approved!) 996 Turbo with more than 560 HP (543 HP on the paper) for one year of full coverage.
    For comparison: the 23 year old son of a friend of ours pays 2600 Euro per year for his VW Golf GTi.

    If the 997 Carrera S would be my first car (right now it is my second next to the Cayenne Turbo), I would pay 700 Euro per year for FULL coverage. Because it is my "second" car (the Cayenne is more expensive in insurance cost), I have to pay 1600 Euro per year.

     
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