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Jul 22, 2007 11:39:16 AM

Alex_997TT: Rennteam Master; Loc: Reading , United Kingdom; Posts: 3320, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2005

997/998 enhancement requests

Started this thread over on the Turbo board:

http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=367746&an=0&page=0#367746

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I know my voice alone won't do much to influence Porsche's strategies, but I met the head of Porsche GB Brand Communications and Strategy this weekend and he seemed very open to suggestions from all 997 owners.

So I wanted to compile a wish list of all suggestions (sensible or otherwise) that I could send him. Worse thing that could happen would be that he could say no, or even "yes, Porsche are already working on that". I know some of you are actually invited to customer clinics where Porsche do this type of thing, but for those of us that are not quite so fortunate I thought this might be a good thread to air our collective opinions.

See thread for the start of my wish-list...

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Jul 23, 2007 2:17:18 PM

Phoenix_911: Pilot; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 475, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: Alex_997TT

Re: 997/998 enhancement requests

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Alex (UK) said:
Started this thread over on the Turbo board:

http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=367746&an=0&page=0#367746

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I know my voice alone won't do much to influence Porsche's strategies, but I met the head of Porsche GB Brand Communications and Strategy this weekend and he seemed very open to suggestions from all 997 owners.

So I wanted to compile a wish list of all suggestions (sensible or otherwise) that I could send him. Worse thing that could happen would be that he could say no, or even "yes, Porsche are already working on that". I know some of you are actually invited to customer clinics where Porsche do this type of thing, but for those of us that are not quite so fortunate I thought this might be a good thread to air our collective opinions.

See thread for the start of my wish-list...

Sweet list.... please add the list with lighter 911, wider body and shorter "overhangs" (front and rear).

I'm looking forward to the first mule-pics of the upcoming 998 (or 991?)... the next 911-Generation!

Greetings

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Jul 23, 2007 4:43:46 PM

jplanaux: Junior; Loc: Louisiana; Posts: 112, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 10, 2006; Reply to: Phoenix_911

Re: 997/998 enhancement requests

me thinks that while you are making dream lists, why not equally waste your time by making a list of improvements of women and sending the list to God (the latter would probably grant your wishes before the sooner).

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Jul 23, 2007 7:08:47 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: jplanaux

Re: 997/998 enhancement requests

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jplanaux said:
me thinks that while you are making dream lists, why not equally waste your time by making a list of improvements of women and sending the list to God (the latter would probably grant your wishes before the sooner).

The speculation is that Porsche market research types ACTUALLY lurk on these board and ARE reading what we are saying.

As for the "God" thing? LOL. Good luck with that.

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Jul 24, 2007 8:01:37 PM

Le Chef: Veteran; Loc: Chicago , United States; Posts: 1059, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 3, 2003; Reply to: MMD

"Just add lightness"

If Porsche can take out around 200kg's that would make an enormous difference to the performance.

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Jul 25, 2007 10:02:42 AM

SonOfStig: Pilot; Loc: United Kingdom; Posts: 387, Gallery; Registered on: May 28, 2005; Reply to: Le Chef

Re: "Just add lightness"

I would like to add one - better road feel for the standard (PASM) suspension. The road feel is OK - no slackness, but a more go-karty suspension setting option so you can feel what the tyres are actually doing on the road would be very very welcome.

The other thing we need for the Coupe anyway, is rear seats that don't kill the backs of your kids/grandads etc when they sit in them - Porsche seem to have removed the lumbar area of the seat which is the most important bit.

Otherwise I'd like better fuel economy, electronics that have a better reaction time (particularly the nav system and rear parking sensor) that and a better clutch feel for handbrake starting and reversing.

I think the self adjusting mechanism is a still bit buggy and if you are reversing up a hill on the clutch you can suddenly lose the clutch!

Otherwise it's a great car

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Jul 25, 2007 12:03:09 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: SonOfStig

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SonOfStig said:
I would like to add one - better road feel for the standard (PASM) suspension.

Yeah, that reminds me. While they're at it Porsche should make a super-mushy PASM setting for extra cr*ppy roads.

The infrastructure in the USA is deteriorating generally and back roads aren't getting any smoother.

If there's enough travel in the suspension the car would make ALOT more sense if a major cushy setting were developed. Especially if they keep insisting on equipping the cars with the rock-hard 19s.

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Jul 25, 2007 1:35:50 PM

Greentree: Co-Pilot; Loc: Texas, USA , United States; Posts: 151, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 1, 2007; Reply to: MMD

Re: "Just add lightness"

How about a 'clear bra' being standard equipment on every Porsche --even the Cayennes? It's a heavy clear plastic film that is applied to the front end and lower portion of the hood. It's already applied on the leading edge of the rear wheel wells to protect against gravel damage. Why not protect the other parts of the car that are subject to the same sort of damage?

As it stands now, a clear bra has to be applied at the dealer for $850. Or, a private contractor can do it for around $350. Hmmm, guess I just answered my own question why it's not standard equipment.

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Jul 27, 2007 12:32:33 AM

TimN: Newbie; Loc: Maryland, USA; Posts: 15, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 8, 2005; Reply to: Greentree

Re: "Just add lightness"

Lighter, more power, more road feel ... those are all givens. But, here's my addition, does anyone else feel that "volcano grey" is perhaps the ugliest plastic trim color on earth? I'd drop big $$ on my next order if I could get the volcano grey pieces in the interior to be either leather or some other more attractive finish. This is possible now with the seatbacks, but not on the center stack trim.

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Jul 27, 2007 12:43:51 AM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: TimN

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TimN said:
does anyone else feel that "volcano grey" is perhaps the ugliest plastic trim color on earth? I'd drop big $$ on my next order if I could get the volcano grey pieces in the interior to be either leather or some other more attractive finish. This is possible now with the seatbacks, but not on the center stack trim.

Here ya go. Niiiice. us$2300.

Gotta say that Volcano Grey is kinda nice, IMO.

"Plastic" no longer means cheap-looking to me. They've done some incredible things with it and can make it look verrrry nice when they spec it that way.

Anyway here's black leather option ($2300) mentioned above. Looks slightly crappy _ONLY_ because of harsh lighting of flash on camera. In real life it looks great.

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Jul 27, 2007 11:08:15 AM

TimN: Newbie; Loc: Maryland, USA; Posts: 15, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 8, 2005; Reply to: MMD

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MMD that looks sweet! Is that an option available from Porsche? I'd say that's worth $2,300 no problem.

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Jul 27, 2007 12:24:00 PM

Alex_997TT: Rennteam Master; Loc: Reading , United Kingdom; Posts: 3320, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2005; Reply to: TimN

Re: "Just add lightness"

Yes about 1000 pounds here for alu or leather PCM. Quite a lot considering how much the actual materials would cost!!

I sat in a brand new Turbo the other day with leather PCM and I must say I didn't like how the leather edges were exposed around each button. Too messy for my tastes.

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Jul 27, 2007 12:47:43 PM

berty987: Junior; Loc: UK; Posts: 71, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2007; Reply to: Alex_997TT

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Would be nice if the tiptronic box was more like the Cayenne and had a sequential shift option on the lever. The buttons on the wheel are fiddly and take out the element of driver interaction.
I'm sure they could find a better storage compatment for the windstop in the cabriolet, rather than taking up precious luggage space.
The rear seats fold down but the space behind isn't used for anything. I'm sure it could be used to store the wind stop ?
I pod / USB connectivity really should be standard on all the audio systems nowdays
The targa roof loses too much rearward visibility when lowered, could the sun blind be redesigned to a better location so you dont lose half the rear screen aperture?
No cost option for black faced dials on the S rather than the white items which look a little cheap. Maybe add the model inscription to the dial face and make them all black with red or yellow needles?
Roof transport systems for the cabriolet would make it a better proposition as a long distance tourer and a tonneau cover for the boxster perhaps ?
DVD integration for tv/ movies as seen in the cayenne would also be an advantage , you can get it in a BMW Z4 so why not a 911?
Perhaps a cheaper clubsport version with no frills just a ligher weight for the "weekend/ track driver" - delete PASM / PSM , leather , A/C , and rear seats. Some lightweight panels and optional roll cage with a nice bodykit .

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Jul 28, 2007 7:31:57 PM

Le Chef: Veteran; Loc: Chicago , United States; Posts: 1059, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 3, 2003; Reply to: berty987

Option 22

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berty987 said:
No cost option for black faced dials on the S rather than the white items which look a little cheap.

It already exists - Option 22. I've had them on my last two 997 S's

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Jul 29, 2007 4:39:13 AM

cibergypsy: Pilot; Loc: FL, USA , United States; Posts: 366, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 21, 2006; Reply to: Le Chef

Re: Option 22

Use the same engine and gearbox throughout the range, regardless of wether or not is a Carrera or a GT3 or Turbo etc! Make them with different displacements or state of tune but give us the same engine as our GT3, GT2 and Turbo variant counterparts, not a cheap, imitation version. We should get the same gearbox too with the ratios chosen to match the power and character of the respective engines but, nevertheless, the same gearbox!

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