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    WHERE DOES THE CARRERA GT PLACE IN THE SUPERCAR MKT?

    hey guys this a great forum.
    I have been on the carrera gt waiting list for over 2 years now, and now finally i recieved the call. they have 2 gt's coming to there dealership
    and one is mine. But i am very disappointed about the way porsche is going about the way we recieve these cars.
    i am hearing that the 537 cars will be spread out over the next 3 years. they are asking for a 50,000 deposit "that will be in a porsche bank account that will be earning interest for the customers" by 3-1-03 and the car will be recieved around sept for the first batch.
    The next batch will follow in 1 year after that and so on.
    612 hp 205 top speed w/hard tops, that is the last word i heard from porsche. All this said i actually have a question, IN THE OPINIONS OF THIS FORUMS MEMBERS DO YOU BELIEVE THIS CAR WILL BE LOOKED AT AS A SUPERCAR LIKE THE FERRARI ENZO OR IN THE LAMBORGHINI MURCIELAGO RANGE?
    I know the lamborghinis a great car but it is a production car unlike the enzo being extremely limited.


    thanks joe

    PCNA Communication Update

    Received yesterday(Saturday) a communication from PCNA. It included a letter of general information, a copy of the press release of February 5 from Atlanta, which was very much the same as the press release from Stuttgart, and five, high quality, glossy prints of the production version of the Carrera GT.

    Re: PCNA Communication Update

    Larry,
    Don't forget to post the pictures if they are other than what has been posted . Thanks

    Re: PCNA Communication Update

    It's the pics I posted in the 'Carrera GT pics' thread. Here we go again:

    http://sw2.ch/pics/cgt_real_1.jpg
    http://sw2.ch/pics/cgt_real_2.jpg
    http://sw2.ch/pics/cgt_real_3.jpg
    http://sw2.ch/pics/cgt_real_4.jpg
    http://sw2.ch/pics/cgt_real_5.jpg

    Greetings!
    --Pierre

    Re: WHERE DOES THE CARRERA GT PLACE IN THE SUPERCAR MKT?

    Do you have to shout? Please turn off the CAPS, using CAPS is considered shouting. Just for the book.

    Regarding the Carrera GT: I truely think that the Carrera GT will be a super sports car like the Ferrari Enzo or the upcoming Mercedes SLR. As much as I love the Lamborghini Murcielago, I don't think it plays in the same league...performance-wise and price-wise.

    The Carrera GT is a limited production car and you should be happy if you you're able to put your hands on it. But as always: never buy a car as an investment but for fun. If you can afford the Carrera GT and if you want to drive it (not only looking at it in your garage), do it. The Carrera GT is a fine masterpiece of sports car technology but it is no Mona Lisa.

    Re: WHERE DOES THE CARRERA GT PLACE IN THE SUPERCAR MKT?

    sorry i didnt even know my caps were on.
    i kind of was looking at this car as an investment but now im starting to think it might not be as good as i had hoped. in fact i am entertaining the idea of selling it.
    we'll see how this whole thing plays out.

    if i dont use my geneva invitations anyone interested.

    Thanks pierre, nice pics (NT)


    Re: WHERE DOES THE CARRERA GT PLACE IN THE SUPERCAR MKT?

    If the invitation is not nominative, yes I would definitly be interested.
    If you don't mind of course,
    Let me know and thanks for proposing,
    Fanch.

    Re: investment

    it's difficult to predict how the value of the GT is going to develop -- but IMO the carrera GT is not in the same league as the enzo emotionally, let alone the sales numbers. the main competitor (if you can speak of competition in this segment ) IMO for the GT is the merc SLR.

    regarding investment: i've read in two newspapers today, that business analysts are recommending investors selling their porsche shares. the quote is very high currently and the future (currency problems because of the high euro, high competition in the SUV segment, boxster desaster in the US) might get difficult.

    Re: investment

    Based on my own prediction

    I kind of have a feeling that Porsche will make the CGT exclusive or orather limited by likely offering the last 300 or 400 production cars with some distinguishing offerings or options from the rest of 1000 or 1500 initial builds.

    Re: investment

    Can you imagine how pissed off the first 1000 or so costumers would be Ron? If Porsche were to announce a 652hp upgrade for the last 300 or 400 CGTs!!!
    I'd be furious, I think that the CGT's specs will not evolve throughout its production.
    Porsche should work on a new Boxster and quick!!!
    Fanch.

    Re: investment

    hi fanch i still have those invites, they are emailing me the form right now.
    i am not going so the the tickets are for grabs, but heres the details it costs $1,000 u.s for the tickets and you have to pay your way there, here is the itinerary for the event straight from porsche......
    1 Day program (overnight stay optional) $600 more


    - VIP pick up at the Airport Geneva
    - Bus transfer to the Hotel Des Bergues Geneva

    Approx. 01:30 p.m. - Arrival at the Hotel Des Bergues Geneva

    01:30 p.m. - VIP - reception, greeting by Mr. Volker Gempt, Porsche Travel Club Manager
    and by the president or the marketing manager of the local Porsche representation.


    - Lunch at the Hotel Des Bergues

    approx. 03:30 p.m. - Bus transfer to the Geneva Motor Show

    approx. 04:00 p.m. - Arrival at the Geneva Motor Show

    04:00 - 07:00 p.m. - Free time at the Geneva Motor Show (optional guided visit)

    07:00 p.m. - VIP reception at the Porsche stand with the Porsche Stand Manager

    07:15 - 08:00 p.m. - Dinner in the VIP lounge of the Porsche stand

    08:00 - 09:15 p.m. - Guided tour around the Porsche stand by the Porsche Stand Manager
    - Special presentation and information on the Porsche Carrera GT by a Porsche
    engineer

    09:15 p.m. - Farewell by Mr. Volker Gempt, Porsche AG

    approx. 09:15 p.m. - Bus transfer to the airport

    Optional: - Transfer to and stay at the Hotel De Bergues Geneva


    following day:

    until 9:30 a.m. - Breakfast at the Hotel Des Bergues Geneva

    - Bus transfer to the Geneva airport

    - Individual departure
    rsche.......

    Re: investment

    I don't think there will be changes in power specs during the production of the predicted 1000 Carrera GT (I've been assured that the number will be limited to 1000, the 2000 rumor is BS).

    BTW: if somebody wants a Porsche stand VIP tour without paying big bucks...Porsche Travel Germany offers a Geneva VIP tour incl. food (but not hotel or anything else!) for 240 Euro per person on the 5th of march. I'm pretty sure there must be an english tour too on a different (or same?) date.

    Re: investment

    WELL heres the latest on the C-GT the price has gone up!
    my dealer witch has my deposit called me and tells me that the cars price is now 400 - 500 thousand that is MSRP.

    with a rumor of more horsepower,

    options are 6 colors to choose from (even yellow) "im sure someone's wishes came true".
    a seat choice and radio-cd options,
    and w/or w/out a/c. no additional charge for any options.

    1,100 to 1,200 total cars- 537 us 29 canada and the remainder are for the rest of the world.


     
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