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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Porsche 992 Turbo S...  Smiley

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTlD5XJr5wY

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    More details of Sport and Lightweight Packages:

     

    https://www.motor1.com/news/405928/porsche-911-turbo-s-lightweight-package/

     

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    if you remove the rear seat, just offer the CS package smiley a cage is always cool.


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    the-missile:

    if you remove the rear seat, just offer the CS package smiley a cage is always cool.

    Wonder if the GT2 is going to have a '' confort package '' ? ( Turbo suspensions , no roll cage , better insulation )  Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Gnil:
    the-missile:

    if you remove the rear seat, just offer the CS package smiley a cage is always cool.

    Wonder if the GT2 is going to have a '' confort package '' ? ( Turbo suspensions , no roll cage , better insulation )  Smiley


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    For me a "lightweigth package" is absolutely out of place for a car like the Turbo/S. Smiley


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    The rear would look soooooo much better without the Porsche lettering!!!  Not only dickish but also fugly. Front license plate not required in Kansas - that cleans up the front nicely.  Somewhat surprised they did not write Porsche under the front badge in big script!   Not like it is easy to confuse it for something else. 
    Other than that I’m a fan. Nice evolution.  Lightweight version is silly though.  Maybe a giant gas tank version would be more like it. 600 mile range would be popular spec these days and it would stand apart.  120 liter tank anyone?
     


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    The "911 turbo S" lettering is a zero cost delete option.  The "Porsche" lettering can be blacked out but not sure it can be deleted.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Like you wrote:

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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Face it, the turbo/turbo S has moved towards the GT (grand touring) side of sports car over the years.

    It is still a very capable sports car but offering a package that tip the scale back towards the 'sporty' side is always welcome. 

    A great side effect of having Dr. Walliser put in charge of 911s. 

    Dr. Walliser has already proven to be one of the greatest manager that Porsche ever had. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    I wonder how much weight is saved beyond just offering the LWB seats (those have to save the vast majority of the 66 pounds over the fully featured electric seats that are standard on the Turbo S)?


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    That package is going to be the preview for the "sportclassic", just include the Ducktail...and jack up the priceindecision


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    The Turbo Cab with a few options will cost around $250,000. It just doesn't look like a $250,000 car when compared to a MC or Ferrari. Performance wise its in the ballpark but......angry


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Grant:

    I wonder how much weight is saved beyond just offering the LWB seats (those have to save the vast majority of the 66 pounds over the fully featured electric seats that are standard on the Turbo S)?


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    Bit confusing as it seems LW package doesn't include optional carbon fiber roof (for Coupes).

    If my read is correct, P claims cf roof is 30% lighter than standard steel (non-sunroof) roof: is that 30lbs savings?

    Importantly, does that ?30lbs savings, along w/optional lower sport chassis, change the center of gravity and steering/chassis balance more than the raw weight savings may suggest?

    Interesting that no use of cf hood (from 991TTS Exclusive) or cf/Mg wheels.

    Also fascinated that P doesn't properly publicize the rumored advances in braking capability in 992TTS, esp seen in 0-100MPH-0 type testing; have heard these braking advances are quite impressive in overall 992TTS performance: effectively weight savings in some sense.


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Appreciate light weight ethos of GT P's

    But even in CA, during winter have early AM w/~50F temps; and in summer early AM sometimes face coastal fog/mist creating patches of damp roads in coastal mtn twisties: all times of day when best driving can occur w/minimal traffic, all in mtn backyards of arguably world's two most important urban regions: LA & SF

    Thus, underwhelmed by GT cars w/tires that don't work vs those-often conditions in mtns yr-round nr LA&SF

    Suspect track-oriented drivers don't fully understand risks of driving in mtn roads in early AM, where GT cars w/their track-optimized tires are prob poor confidence-inspirers/performers vs any 992TTS on fresh summer perf tires, for those seeking to drive precisely on mtn rds, not seeking to set times, but savoring attributes of car's precision/stability, while protecting selves & able to navigate surprise bikers/deer/sloppy oncoming cars, etc of the real world of blind curves of mtn twisties, even in early wkend AM in coastal CA


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    Dynamics:

    Appreciate light weight ethos of GT P's

    But even in CA, during winter have early AM w/~50F temps; and in summer early AM sometimes face coastal fog/mist creating patches of damp roads in coastal mtn twisties: all times of day when best driving can occur w/minimal traffic, all in mtn backyards of arguably world's two most important urban regions: LA & SF

    Thus, underwhelmed by GT cars w/tires that don't work vs those-often conditions in mtns yr-round nr LA&SF

    Suspect track-oriented drivers don't fully understand risks of driving in mtn roads in early AM, where GT cars w/their track-optimized tires are prob poor confidence-inspirers/performers vs any 992TTS on fresh summer perf tires, for those seeking to drive precisely on mtn rds, not seeking to set times, but savoring attributes of car's precision/stability, while protecting selves & able to navigate surprise bikers/deer/sloppy oncoming cars, etc of the real world of blind curves of mtn twisties, even in early wkend AM in coastal CA

    This writing style reminds me of a rennteam member from long ago - also from CA, a big fan of AMG, and especially the use of "/" marks. Could it be that you have returned after all of these years?  Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    trip:
    Dynamics:

    Appreciate light weight ethos of GT P's

    But even in CA, during winter have early AM w/~50F temps; and in summer early AM sometimes face coastal fog/mist creating patches of damp roads in coastal mtn twisties: all times of day when best driving can occur w/minimal traffic, all in mtn backyards of arguably world's two most important urban regions: LA & SF

    Thus, underwhelmed by GT cars w/tires that don't work vs those-often conditions in mtns yr-round nr LA&SF

    Suspect track-oriented drivers don't fully understand risks of driving in mtn roads in early AM, where GT cars w/their track-optimized tires are prob poor confidence-inspirers/performers vs any 992TTS on fresh summer perf tires, for those seeking to drive precisely on mtn rds, not seeking to set times, but savoring attributes of car's precision/stability, while protecting selves & able to navigate surprise bikers/deer/sloppy oncoming cars, etc of the real world of blind curves of mtn twisties, even in early wkend AM in coastal CA

    This writing style reminds me of a rennteam member from long ago - also from CA, a big fan of AMG, and especially the use of "/" marks. Could it be that you have returned after all of these years?  Smiley

    kiss it’s like reading Ulysses. Smiley


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    trip:

    This writing style reminds me of a rennteam member from long ago - also from CA, a big fan of AMG, and especially the use of "/" marks. Could it be that you have returned after all of these years?  Smiley

    Haha I had exactly the same feeling! Forgot his name, only remember I was always having great difficulty understanding what the message was that was trying to be conveyed...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    nberry:
    trip:
    Dynamics:

    Appreciate light weight ethos of GT P's

    But even in CA, during winter have early AM w/~50F temps; and in summer early AM sometimes face coastal fog/mist creating patches of damp roads in coastal mtn twisties: all times of day when best driving can occur w/minimal traffic, all in mtn backyards of arguably world's two most important urban regions: LA & SF

    Thus, underwhelmed by GT cars w/tires that don't work vs those-often conditions in mtns yr-round nr LA&SF

    Suspect track-oriented drivers don't fully understand risks of driving in mtn roads in early AM, where GT cars w/their track-optimized tires are prob poor confidence-inspirers/performers vs any 992TTS on fresh summer perf tires, for those seeking to drive precisely on mtn rds, not seeking to set times, but savoring attributes of car's precision/stability, while protecting selves & able to navigate surprise bikers/deer/sloppy oncoming cars, etc of the real world of blind curves of mtn twisties, even in early wkend AM in coastal CA

    This writing style reminds me of a rennteam member from long ago - also from CA, a big fan of AMG, and especially the use of "/" marks. Could it be that you have returned after all of these years?  Smiley

    kiss it’s like reading Ulysses. Smiley

    Haha!! Nothing worse than James Joyce if you love literatureSmiley

    Maybe he's saying he needs Pilot Sports, the really the long waySmiley


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    You guys got it right about him.  He used to post as VKSF, then got slammed by KresoF1 (Remember that other test case?), then came back as WBH.  It is his third reincarnation, but same posts about SF/LA being the center of the universe and the most demanding driving conditions on the whole planet.  heart


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    Ziggy:

    You guys got it right about him.  He used to post as VKSF, then got slammed by KresoF1 (Remember that other test case?), then came back as WBH.  It is his third reincarnation, but same posts about SF/LA being the center of the universe and the most demanding driving conditions on the whole planet.  heart


    Ah, good ole KresoF1. Brings back sweet memories... Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Rossi:
    Ziggy:

    You guys got it right about him.  He used to post as VKSF, then got slammed by KresoF1 (Remember that other test case?), then came back as WBH.  It is his third reincarnation, but same posts about SF/LA being the center of the universe and the most demanding driving conditions on the whole planet.  heart


    Ah, good ole KresoF1. Brings back sweet memories... Smiley

    Wonder how that M5 is doing!


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    In good Shape for shure ;)


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    Porker:
    Rossi:
    Ziggy:

    You guys got it right about him.  He used to post as VKSF, then got slammed by KresoF1 (Remember that other test case?), then came back as WBH.  It is his third reincarnation, but same posts about SF/LA being the center of the universe and the most demanding driving conditions on the whole planet.  heart


    Ah, good ole KresoF1. Brings back sweet memories... Smiley

    Wonder how that M5 is doing!

    LOL, you deserve it

     

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    What happened to KresoF1? I was a bit embarrassed as his compatriot also knowing his reputation locally...

    Best, w


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    trip:
    Dynamics:

    Appreciate light weight ethos of GT P's

    But even in CA, during winter have early AM w/~50F temps; and in summer early AM sometimes face coastal fog/mist creating patches of damp roads in coastal mtn twisties: all times of day when best driving can occur w/minimal traffic, all in mtn backyards of arguably world's two most important urban regions: LA & SF

    Thus, underwhelmed by GT cars w/tires that don't work vs those-often conditions in mtns yr-round nr LA&SF

    Suspect track-oriented drivers don't fully understand risks of driving in mtn roads in early AM, where GT cars w/their track-optimized tires are prob poor confidence-inspirers/performers vs any 992TTS on fresh summer perf tires, for those seeking to drive precisely on mtn rds, not seeking to set times, but savoring attributes of car's precision/stability, while protecting selves & able to navigate surprise bikers/deer/sloppy oncoming cars, etc of the real world of blind curves of mtn twisties, even in early wkend AM in coastal CA

    This writing style reminds me of a rennteam member from long ago - also from CA, a big fan of AMG, and especially the use of "/" marks. Could it be that you have returned after all of these years?  Smiley

    From California? Smiley Smiley

    Wasn't him from Croatia and speaking fluent german?


    Re: OFFICIAL: New Porsche 911 Turbo S (2020)

    Porker:
    Rossi:
    Ziggy:

    You guys got it right about him.  He used to post as VKSF, then got slammed by KresoF1 (Remember that other test case?), then came back as WBH.  It is his third reincarnation, but same posts about SF/LA being the center of the universe and the most demanding driving conditions on the whole planet.  heart


    Ah, good ole KresoF1. Brings back sweet memories... Smiley

    Wonder how that M5 is doing!


    And the Porsche Turbo and the F430 and the 458 and the... Smiley


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