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    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    Whether one likes it, or not, I'm sure Porsche will sell everyone they build.


    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    I'm not fond of this shape but it's not a surprise because this is the shape of the traditional 911 Speedster since the late 80s

    Look at this 964 and the older 3.2 Carrera

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    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    Agree with you completely.  Odd that Porsche AG is clearly trying to milk what's left of the cow and could likely sell a good number of Speedsters priced +10k over a conventional Cab.  GTS is nice but a highly functional Speedster with a working top would be nicer, and (it seems as though) GTS and all other 997 residuals are poised to implode with next gen 991 imminent.  Obviously this car is for a small number of collectors. 


    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    Guys, the reason why Speedster and Sport Classic is so expensive is because 1) they are limited edition cars with very small production numbers, and 2) they come with so much equipment that a similarly specced GTS would not be that much cheaper!


    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    WAY:

    Guys, the reason why Speedster and Sport Classic is so expensive is because 1) they are limited edition cars with very small production numbers, and 2) they come with so much equipment that a similarly specced GTS would not be that much cheaper!

    In the case of the new Speedster I am happy that it is only limited to 365 units.  Can you imagine seeing bunch of these out in the streets Smiley.


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    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    Does anyone else find it  ironic that this $200K+  maximally optioned Porsche has as its namesake a 1950's "low cost" stripper requested of Porsche by the US distributor (Max Hoffman) so he could increase sales??  It would seem that for Porsche marketing the Speedster  appellation is now synonymous with "convince them it's an investment".  Have any of the previous Speedster iterations (911 or 964) attained "investment grade" status?


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    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    DaveC:

    Does anyone else find it  ironic that this $200K+  maximally optioned Porsche has as its namesake a 1950's "low cost" stripper requested of Porsche by the US distributor (Max Hoffman) so he could increase sales??  It would seem that for Porsche marketing the Speedster  appellation is now synonymous with "convince them it's an investment".  Have any of the previous Speedster iterations (911 or 964) attained "investment grade" status?  

     

    Putting aside the fact that no car should ever be bought as an investment (that's just a story affluent guys tell their wives so they don't also have to buy expensive jewellry at the same time as they indulge themeselves with a new toySmiley), I have known guys who cried in their beer because they didn't get their names down quickly enough for a limited-series Speedster.

    There is a market for this model, even at the prices asked for it, so I guess we should be cheering the fact that the market is being served instead of being ignored due to its limited size. Nobody twists the buyers' arms.  Smiley


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    I think it's drop dead gorgeous (and pricey)

    Most Porsche lines had a limited number of Speedsters that are all collectable by now,930,964,993 and now the 997,the 996 was too fugly and there wasn't much point in doing a Speedster imo

    If the top operation is not too much of a torture i'd consider getting one for my wife Smiley


    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    fritz:
    DaveC:

    Does anyone else find it  ironic that this $200K+  maximally optioned Porsche has as its namesake a 1950's "low cost" stripper requested of Porsche by the US distributor (Max Hoffman) so he could increase sales??  It would seem that for Porsche marketing the Speedster  appellation is now synonymous with "convince them it's an investment".  Have any of the previous Speedster iterations (911 or 964) attained "investment grade" status?  

     

    Putting aside the fact that no car should ever be bought as an investment (that's just a story affluent guys tell their wives so they don't also have to buy expensive jewellry at the same time as they indulge themeselves with a new toySmiley), I have known guys who cried in their beer because they didn't get their names down quickly enough for a limited-series Speedster.

    There is a market for this model, even at the prices asked for it, so I guess we should be cheering the fact that the market is being served instead of being ignored due to its limited size. Nobody twists the buyers' arms.  Smiley

    I generally agree, but there are those who do believe that money can be made buying certain cars.  Pre-collapse Ferrari comes to mind. 
     


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    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    ...yet another fright pig from the folks at the vw/porsche design studios. the idea of using the word " speedster " related to this abomination is further evidence these people of lost not only their minds but more importantly their roots....loved the website which somehow neglected to show the top up , i always thought my 56 speedster looked fine with the top up....can't wait to see the obscene prices they will begin changing hands at sooon


    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    This car is great - but the price... Smiley


    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    fritz:
    DaveC:

    Does anyone else find it  ironic that this $200K+  maximally optioned Porsche has as its namesake a 1950's "low cost" stripper requested of Porsche by the US distributor (Max Hoffman) so he could increase sales??  It would seem that for Porsche marketing the Speedster  appellation is now synonymous with "convince them it's an investment".  Have any of the previous Speedster iterations (911 or 964) attained "investment grade" status?  

     

    Putting aside the fact that no car should ever be bought as an investment (that's just a story affluent guys tell their wives so they don't also have to buy expensive jewellry at the same time as they indulge themeselves with a new toySmiley), I have known guys who cried in their beer because they didn't get their names down quickly enough for a limited-series Speedster.

    There is a market for this model, even at the prices asked for it, so I guess we should be cheering the fact that the market is being served instead of being ignored due to its limited size. Nobody twists the buyers' arms.  Smiley

     I see you point - but then: if Porsche will do several limited editions for each of the 997 successors as well collectors will pile up these cars and after some time people will recognize that there are far too many "limited editions" - the concept of "limited" can only applied with limitations Smiley


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    MKSGR:

    This car is great - but the price... Smiley

     Another point: a collector's piece should be sold with manual gear box, if you ask me... In 20years time today's PDK will be very, very historical...


    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    DaveC:
    fritz:
    DaveC:

      Have any of the previous Speedster iterations (911 or 964) attained "investment grade" status?  

     

    Putting aside the fact that no car should ever be bought as an investment (that's just a story affluent guys tell their wives so they don't also have to buy expensive jewellry at the same time as they indulge themeselves with a new toySmiley), I have known guys who cried in their beer because they didn't get their names down quickly enough for a limited-series Speedster.

     

    I generally agree, but there are those who do believe that money can be made buying certain cars.  Pre-collapse Ferrari comes to mind. 
     

    Sure, you can make money on cars, but  the liklihood of making money on them, especially if you actually drive them, is generally less than on the stock market et al. Especially if you factor in the costs for renovation and maintenance of the cars.

    You can make money on the Florida Lottery, but I have never heard anybody refer to it as an investment. Smiley  


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    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    sevoman:

     An unattractive blue car with deformed buttocks which costs 20% more than a TurboS. Try getting a decent price for it in three years time... 


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    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    Lars997:
    sevoman:

     An unattractive blue car with deformed buttocks which costs 20% more than a TurboS. Try getting a decent price for it in three years time... 

     

    +1

     I agree about it being ugly, I personally don't like it. But its undeniable that a market for this car does exist, and those interested in it do pay a lot for it, imo because its an itch that is so rarely satisfied.


    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    Hideous, overpriced ... GTS is the car to get right now :) 


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    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    easy_rider911:

    Hideous, overpriced ... GTS is the car to get right now :) 

    If one doesn't want to wait for the 991 then you are 100% right.


    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    I take it that the roof is really ugly and difficult to erect, which is why we haven't seen one single pic of it yet.  I love the look of the Sppedster btw, just think the price is a little overboard.  I rather get a GT2RS (yeah I know, it's sold out, at least in Australia because we tried very hard to get one!).


    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    WAY:

    I take it that the roof is really ugly and difficult to erect, which is why we haven't seen one single pic of it yet.  I love the look of the Sppedster btw, just think the price is a little overboard.  I rather get a GT2RS (yeah I know, it's sold out, at least in Australia because we tried very hard to get one!).

    I posted one above, albeit not very good.


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    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    Ah my apologies ResB. Doesn't look half bad with the roof up. So I take it the Speedster hump is just a cover then?

    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    I actually really like this car.  I wish they would have released photos of the Speedster in the option Carrera White though.


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    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    Actually, I just discovered that you can see the Speedster in Carrera White via Porsche website.  Much better looking color for the car IMHO.


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    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    I just wanted to say the same - fully agree that it's totally overpriced but I like it very much to see in Black or White


    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    price is just silly.


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    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    DaveC:

    Does anyone else find it  ironic that this $200K+  maximally optioned Porsche has as its namesake a 1950's "low cost" stripper requested of Porsche by the US distributor (Max Hoffman) so he could increase sales??  It would seem that for Porsche marketing the Speedster  appellation is now synonymous with "convince them it's an investment".  Have any of the previous Speedster iterations (911 or 964) attained "investment grade" status?

     

     +1!

    I think this comes under the category of "How Stupid Do They Think We Are?"  Take a cabriolet, add a very ugly (presumably plastic) hump and reduce the windsheild and suddenly we're supposed to think it's a Speedster?

    A true Speedster would essentially have to be a GT3 cab, lowered and sectioned, shortening it where the rear seats are now,  dramatically lightened. It wouldn't need a hump because the driver would sit lower on lighter racing shell seats and it would be so hard to put the top up that you wouldn't bother. You'd just drive faster to keep the rain off you.

    AND it would have an interior of Alcantara.

     


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    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    I like it alot, great looking car, but the GTS is a far better buy, still...the 991 is the way to go

    J.Seven


    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    I am not turned off by its looks. However, how does Porsche price a car like this?

    I assume they have a target profit margin and then add in percentage for limited production and buyer stupidity? At least with Ferrari with limited production you get performance. This car does not give you $250,000 sport car performance.Smiley

    That said, I am sure Porsche probably has a pretty good idea who will buy this car and will have no problem selling all of them.


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    Re: New Speedster per EVO

    Take a C2S cab, add all the options that this car has, and you will get an idea how Porsche prices this.  It isn't that much of a premium if someone is crazy enough to want all those leather and stuff!


     
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