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    997 tt zo6

    Corvette Z06 beats Porsche 911 Turbo around a track autospies.com

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    996cal said:
    Corvette Z06 beats Porsche 911 Turbo around a track autospies.com


    More power, less weight, and bigger tires will do that...

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    Here we go again...

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    996cal said:
    Corvette Z06 beats Porsche 911 Turbo around a track autospies.com



    Remember when the Z06 time at the Ring was considered a fraud? That GM and its staff fudged the numbers? Where are these doubter's now? Time and time again the Z06 has shown its superiority over the 997TT.

    Now instead of assailing its performance, they attack its quality. Sad very sad.

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    Blah Blah Blah.......

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    Well done Chevy I hope this will be Porsche wake up call

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    nberry said:
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    996cal said:
    Corvette Z06 beats Porsche 911 Turbo around a track autospies.com



    Remember when the Z06 time at the Ring was considered a fraud? That GM and its staff fudged the numbers? Where are these doubter's now? Time and time again the Z06 has shown its superiority over the 997TT.

    Now instead of assailing its performance, they attack its quality. Sad very sad.



    Well, we still need to see the supertest (NBR time). However, in Hockenheim the Z06 has demonstrated its qualities...

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    If Porsche put the same size engine as the Z06 in their next 911 Turbo (if they could make it fit somewhere), I'm sure it would be much quicker than a Z06... All I'm saying is that the 997TT is pretty good for what it is - shame it is not the King anymore though...

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    Basically Porsche is making money their big argument in building cars so that they do not want to put on the market a 550bhp car if they can sell a 480 one and then next in time sell the 550 one. You sell two cars and not only one...

    Considering the competition they are a little bit back and not as incredibly in advance as they were with the 993turbo.
    Remember? 408bhp....
    The 997TT should have reached more than 500....to keep the pace. They started to lose the train with the 996....420bhp.
    If you have a look to the track times of 993 turbo and 996 turbo in hockenheim the 993 is ahead.....

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    boytronic said:
    the 997TT is pretty good for what it is - shame it is not the King anymore though...



    Seems to echo everyone's sentiments in a nice little quib...

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    yes....defintely....a king is missing in the right place.....

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    They are both great cars in their own respective ways.
    Also, the Z06 was not Porsche's design target for the 997TT.....my view is that Porsche simply wants to continue improving on the previous generation of the same model so that people already attracted to the marque will upgrade to the next generation........

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    atomic80 said:
    Here we go again...


    exactly my thoughts...

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    It almost reminds me of the old LP's that would get scratched and as a result skip...what a pain in the ass that was..:-)

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    Nick (nberry),

    Not to go off topic, but is this your car?


    I saw it last April parked just up the street from Manhattan Beach. I think I saw you eyeing me when I took that picture. I just noticed just now that you're from San Diego so I figured that there might be a small chance that this was yours.

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    nberry said:

    Remember when the Z06 time at the Ring was considered a fraud? That GM and its staff fudged the numbers? Where are these doubter's now? Time and time again the Z06 has shown its superiority over the 997TT.




    Same statement rings true about the F430

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    In my real life experience, the 997 Turbo is still The King with big advance to the Vettes, F430, Lambo, SL and Vipers...

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    Several threads open about the same topic. It's time to start banning people.

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    The Z06 is really a great machine. That cannot be denied. GM really stepped up to the bat and hit a home run. Only problem is I do not want one. Actually I do not lust for a Turbo either, but in a pinch I would take the turbo over 2 Z06s IF YOU ARE GIVING THEM AWAY. Nobody is giving anything away, we put down hard earned money to buy these machines. I DONOT get pissed at Porsche over in this insane HP race. GM is putting 400HP is the upgrade egine of the Solstice. I get pissed at Porsche for charging for power seats in a $100K non-turbo 997...that is just plain laughing at their loyal buyers. I love my Porsche C4S...it's not a turbo, but I want to keep it over the Z06. While the Z06 is a great car, the last time I felt lustfull for a Corvette was when Route 66 was on TV and I was 13 years old.

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    stork said:
    The Z06 is really a great machine. That cannot be denied. GM really stepped up to the bat and hit a home run. Only problem is I do not want one. Actually I do not lust for a Turbo either, but in a pinch I would take the turbo over 2 Z06s IF YOU ARE GIVING THEM AWAY. Nobody is giving anything away, we put down hard earned money to buy these machines. I DONOT get pissed at Porsche over in this insane HP race. GM is putting 400HP is the upgrade egine of the Solstice. I get pissed at Porsche for charging for power seats in a $100K non-turbo 997...that is just plain laughing at their loyal buyers. I love my Porsche C4S...it's not a turbo, but I want to keep it over the Z06. While the Z06 is a great car, the last time I felt lustfull for a Corvette was when Route 66 was on TV and I was 13 years old.



    Very well said, stork. I'm with you 100%. As great as the new Corvette is, I personally don't want one. Sure, you can't deny the bang for the buck of the Vette, but I would spend the extra money for a Turbo just because it's my personal preference.

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    stork said:
    The Z06 is really a great machine. That cannot be denied. GM really stepped up to the bat and hit a home run. Only problem is I do not want one. Actually I do not lust for a Turbo either, but in a pinch I would take the turbo over 2 Z06s IF YOU ARE GIVING THEM AWAY. Nobody is giving anything away, we put down hard earned money to buy these machines. I DONOT get pissed at Porsche over in this insane HP race. GM is putting 400HP is the upgrade egine of the Solstice. I get pissed at Porsche for charging for power seats in a $100K non-turbo 997...that is just plain laughing at their loyal buyers. I love my Porsche C4S...it's not a turbo, but I want to keep it over the Z06. While the Z06 is a great car, the last time I felt lustfull for a Corvette was when Route 66 was on TV and I was 13 years old.



    Power seats aren't included because Porsche is all about customization. Some people don't want seats, because they don't need them. Others don't want them because they add extra weight. Personally, i wouldn't get power seats. If you're the only driver, how often are you moving your seat?

    But they SHOULD however come with xenons

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    sdy284 said:
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    stork said:
    The Z06 is really a great machine. That cannot be denied. GM really stepped up to the bat and hit a home run. Only problem is I do not want one. Actually I do not lust for a Turbo either, but in a pinch I would take the turbo over 2 Z06s IF YOU ARE GIVING THEM AWAY. Nobody is giving anything away, we put down hard earned money to buy these machines. I DONOT get pissed at Porsche over in this insane HP race. GM is putting 400HP is the upgrade egine of the Solstice. I get pissed at Porsche for charging for power seats in a $100K non-turbo 997...that is just plain laughing at their loyal buyers. I love my Porsche C4S...it's not a turbo, but I want to keep it over the Z06. While the Z06 is a great car, the last time I felt lustfull for a Corvette was when Route 66 was on TV and I was 13 years old.



    Power seats aren't included because Porsche is all about customization. Some people don't want seats, because they don't need them. Others don't want them because they add extra weight. Personally, i wouldn't get power seats. If you're the only driver, how often are you moving your seat?

    But they SHOULD however come with xenons



    For me power seats are the LEAST important option, if the mechanical seat adjustment is variable enough in every direction!

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    Rossi said:
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    sdy284 said:
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    stork said:
    The Z06 is really a great machine. That cannot be denied. GM really stepped up to the bat and hit a home run. Only problem is I do not want one. Actually I do not lust for a Turbo either, but in a pinch I would take the turbo over 2 Z06s IF YOU ARE GIVING THEM AWAY. Nobody is giving anything away, we put down hard earned money to buy these machines. I DONOT get pissed at Porsche over in this insane HP race. GM is putting 400HP is the upgrade egine of the Solstice. I get pissed at Porsche for charging for power seats in a $100K non-turbo 997...that is just plain laughing at their loyal buyers. I love my Porsche C4S...it's not a turbo, but I want to keep it over the Z06. While the Z06 is a great car, the last time I felt lustfull for a Corvette was when Route 66 was on TV and I was 13 years old.



    Power seats aren't included because Porsche is all about customization. Some people don't want seats, because they don't need them. Others don't want them because they add extra weight. Personally, i wouldn't get power seats. If you're the only driver, how often are you moving your seat?

    But they SHOULD however come with xenons



    For me power seats are the LEAST important option, if the mechanical seat adjustment is variable enough in every direction!



    I like power seats, but only as a gimmick, since I like the look of those buttons . Otherwise, there is no advantage over an ordinary seat, only extra weight.

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    There is a reason why unhappy Ferrari owners troll the 997TT forums instead of the Z06 boards.

    In my opinion the 997TT is the best car for the road. I could have picked the F430 or Z06 over the 997TT last month but I didn't.

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    W211 said:
    There is a reason why unhappy Ferrari owners troll the 997TT forums instead of the Z06 boards.



    Who do you mean in particular with that totally irrelevant, featherbrained and narrow-minded phrase?

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    JP66 said:
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    nberry said:

    Remember when the Z06 time at the Ring was considered a fraud? That GM and its staff fudged the numbers? Where are these doubter's now? Time and time again the Z06 has shown its superiority over the 997TT.




    Same statement rings true about the F430



    This much is clear. Because of the Z06, performance is no longer important to Porsche buyers.

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    nberry said:
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    JP66 said:
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    nberry said:

    Remember when the Z06 time at the Ring was considered a fraud? That GM and its staff fudged the numbers? Where are these doubter's now? Time and time again the Z06 has shown its superiority over the 997TT.




    Same statement rings true about the F430



    This much is clear. Because of the Z06, performance is no longer important to Porsche buyers.



    No, it just means that performance isn't the only reason to pick the Porsche.

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    Rossi said:
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    W211 said:
    There is a reason why unhappy Ferrari owners troll the 997TT forums instead of the Z06 boards.



    Who do you mean in particular with that totally irrelevant, featherbrained and narrow-minded phrase?



    It means that there's something special about the TT that appeals to many owners, Ferrari and Z06 alike. Resistance is futile..

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    Rossi said:
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    W211 said:
    There is a reason why unhappy Ferrari owners troll the 997TT forums instead of the Z06 boards.



    Who do you mean in particular with that totally irrelevant, featherbrained and narrow-minded phrase?




    OOUCH!

     
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