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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Eh, I never call it a Carrera anyway. They are all 911s to me, and all the various names are just different "options."


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    noone1:

    Eh, I never call it a Carrera anyway.

    Yeah, Carrera used to mean something (top of the line, instead of bottom of the line as it is today.  Talk about dilution...)


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Grant:
    noone1:

    Eh, I never call it a Carrera anyway.

    Yeah, Carrera used to mean something (top of the line, instead of bottom of the line as it is today.  Talk about dilution...)

    SmileySmiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    noone1:

    I do agree with RC somewhat. I'm a car guy and only now by looking at Wikipedia do I realize that for the last decade, the Cayman was just the Boxster coupe. I always thought it was a completely different car in the line up between the Boxster and 911. I thought the Boxster was just a convertible-only Porsche and the Cayman was a poor man's 911, and a step up from the Boxster.

    Porsche's marketing department can work wonders Smiley


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    bluelines:
    noone1:

    I do agree with RC somewhat. I'm a car guy and only now by looking at Wikipedia do I realize that for the last decade, the Cayman was just the Boxster coupe. I always thought it was a completely different car in the line up between the Boxster and 911. I thought the Boxster was just a convertible-only Porsche and the Cayman was a poor man's 911, and a step up from the Boxster.

    Porsche's marketing department can work wonders Smiley

    Hate to say it bluelines, but your car just got less cool: Boxster GT4 Coupe.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Well, I have a 981, not a 718. The good old times when people thought the models were different kiss


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Surprising to see anyone here not knowing they were the same car angry It has been said many times.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Plus they look the same and Porsche doesn't hide that they share the same platform.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    vantagesc:

    Plus they look the same and Porsche doesn't hide that they share the same platform.

    I remember heated debates here when Cayman first came out when some "Caymanites" had convinced themselves that the car was closer - much - to the 911 line than the Boxster.....Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    dreamcar:
    vantagesc:

    Plus they look the same and Porsche doesn't hide that they share the same platform.

    I remember heated debates here when Cayman first came out when some "Caymanites" had convinced themselves that the car was closer - much - to the 911 line than the Boxster.....Smiley

    And I remember you putting one of them straight on that.  Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    fritz:
    dreamcar:
    vantagesc:

    Plus they look the same and Porsche doesn't hide that they share the same platform.

    I remember heated debates here when Cayman first came out when some "Caymanites" had convinced themselves that the car was closer - much - to the 911 line than the Boxster.....Smiley

    And I remember you putting one of them straight on that.  Smiley

    Me? As if I would burst their bubbles!....Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    SciFrog:

    Surprising to see anyone here not knowing they were the same car angry It has been said many times.

    Guess I missed it. I try to avoid threads under 8 cylinders and 400hp.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    noone1:
    SciFrog:

    Surprising to see anyone here not knowing they were the same car angry It has been said many times.

    Guess I missed it. I try to avoid threads under 8 cylinders and 400hp.

    At least we now know who on Rennteam to blame single handed for global warming....Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Looking at the new Audi TT RS with 400 hp, an excellent chassis setup and very modern interior (incl. that virtual cockpit), I wonder how Porsche wants to sell the Cayman? yes

    I am a huge Porsche fan but I would take the new Audi TT RS over the new Cayman S anytime. angry

    Just not a fan of that rear wing but the entry price is rumored to be around 59k EUR (cheaper than Cayman S).


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    RC:

    Looking at the new Audi TT RS with 400 hp, an excellent chassis setup and very modern interior (incl. that virtual cockpit), I wonder how Porsche wants to sell the Cayman? yes

    I am a huge Porsche fan but I would take the new Audi TT RS over the new Cayman S anytime. angry

    Just not a fan of that rear wing but the entry price is rumored to be around 59k EUR (cheaper than Cayman S).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)

     

    I agree mainly - at least the Audi has a characterful five cylinder engine, is faster and cheaper, and Audi interiors are always first class. I doubt if the handling is as good as the Porsche though. 

    I don't understand why for the sake of change the clean fascia design of 981 has reverted to the Sport Chrono ugly wart of the previous generation. From the photos the only change I prefer is the neat run of stitching (on cars with full leather) above the glove box running down the sides of the centre console. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    RC:

    Looking at the new Audi TT RS with 400 hp, an excellent chassis setup and very modern interior (incl. that virtual cockpit), I wonder how Porsche wants to sell the Cayman? yes

    I am a huge Porsche fan but I would take the new Audi TT RS over the new Cayman S anytime. angry

    Just not a fan of that rear wing but the entry price is rumored to be around 59k EUR (cheaper than Cayman S).

    Exactly - couldn't agree more SmileySmileySmiley

    The Audi is for sure the better and more modern car. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    I'm not a fan of the general shape of the TT, but it's a way better car than the new Cayman, especially when you consider the typical options cost of a Porsche. Usually a high-end Audi needs barely any options.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Are you seriously putting the Cayman and Audi TT (even the RS) in the same sentence? The Cayman is one of the best sports car packages at any price, the other is a girls car with FWD bias. I suggest anyone who has forgotten how good the Cayman is to spend a track day with it. I doubt that the TT would even survive more then a couple of laps.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Herbaliser:

    Are you seriously putting the Cayman and Audi TT (even the RS) in the same sentence? The Cayman is one of the best sports car packages at any price, the other is a girls car with FWD bias. I suggest anyone who has forgotten how good the Cayman is to spend a track day with it. I doubt that the TT would even survive more then a couple of laps.

    The new TT has been improved a lot...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    RC:

    Looking at the new Audi TT RS with 400 hp, an excellent chassis setup and very modern interior (incl. that virtual cockpit), I wonder how Porsche wants to sell the Cayman? yes

    I am a huge Porsche fan but I would take the new Audi TT RS over the new Cayman S anytime. angry

    Just not a fan of that rear wing but the entry price is rumored to be around 59k EUR (cheaper than Cayman S).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)

     

    If the chassis setup is done right it will be a really nice package, even compared to a carrera 4/4S. It is much cheaper, has rear seats and comes with S-tronic and Quattro as standard. A daily driver with power and sound.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Herbaliser:

    Are you seriously putting the Cayman and Audi TT (even the RS) in the same sentence? The Cayman is one of the best sports car packages at any price, the other is a girls car with FWD bias. I suggest anyone who has forgotten how good the Cayman is to spend a track day with it. I doubt that the TT would even survive more then a couple of laps.

    It was, the superb handling remains of course but Cayman's  supremacy has been hamstrung now the superb engine - the heart and soul of any sports car - has been replaced with this new turbo four lump. Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Unfortunately they're targeting the volume, not the car enthusiasts that we are.... have to admit though a non-S 718 Cayman with PDK would be a great daily driver - but only because I've the other toys in the garage...


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Rich C (UK):

    Unfortunately they're targeting the volume, not the car enthusiasts that we are.... have to admit though a non-S 718 Cayman with PDK would be a great daily driver - but only because I've the other toys in the garage...

    On the subject of which when are we going to see this new toy of yours here on RT and personally??Smiley Smiley Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Tried to upload some pics and failed spectacularly!!!

    What are you and Mrs DC free????


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Rich C (UK):

    Tried to upload some pics and failed spectacularly!!!

    What are you and Mrs DC free????

    That's a shame you can't upload photos of your flying banana here - they love 'em Smiley

    Most weekends Rich  - May Day weekend we are with SWMBO's daughter and family, Sunday 8th May we are out and we are away to Yorkshire 4th June for a week, other than that always up for a get together..Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Ok, will have a chat with the missus and lets sort something out.... now just to work out how to upload pics...

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Herbaliser:

    Are you seriously putting the Cayman and Audi TT (even the RS) in the same sentence? The Cayman is one of the best sports car packages at any price, the other is a girls car with FWD bias. I suggest anyone who has forgotten how good the Cayman is to spend a track day with it. I doubt that the TT would even survive more then a couple of laps.

    So the Cayman is great fun for the 200 miles of track time it will see in its lifetime. What about the 50,000 miles of normal driving where the TT blows it away in real world usage?

    Give me a TT RS anyday based on the interior alone.

    And besides, a performance spec Cayman S is $100K, and that's not with the crazy options like CCB. I just priced one with normal amenities and options that make it the performance car you say it to be. Ninety-five fucking thousand dollars, before tax. For a Cayman S. For another $20K I can buy in a barely used 991 Turbo.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Rich C (UK):

    Ok, will have a chat with the missus and lets sort something out.... now just to work out how to upload pics...

     

    SmileySmiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Guys, I do not want to make the Cayman look bad, it is a fantastic car, no doubt about it but look at the prices Porsche is asking and I kind of think they lost the touch with reality. angry


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 718 Cayman (2016)

    Ignoring everything else, from a performance point of view have they really lost it? Both in a straight line and on a track this new Cayman should be pretty fast. Probably faster than all competition.


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