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    New Diesel for Panamera

     On Auto Motor Und Sport site, they mentioned a new Diesel for the Panamera during 2011. With over then 300hp. 

    Anyone kown when will be available and if this engine will be available on the Cayenne?

    Thank`s!

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    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    I've not got any firm details but I ordered one today on behalf of my father to replace his 730d. The dealer says it will be their first customer car and they anticipate it arriving in June or possibly July. They are still awaiting official confirmation of the model but have been given an indication of a base price in the UK of £62k incl tax so it's comparable to the V6 in that respect. I'm assuming/hoping it will come with the 8 speed auto as standard like the Cayenne diesel does.


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    I just heard that Porsche is testing a V8 Diesel (bi-turbo charged) with close to 400 horses but in the end, the production car will have something close to 360 hp. Not sure if this is the same engine AMS mentions (they mention a V6 TDi) but Porsche is surely going for a very powerful Diesel.

    I also heard about a second Diesel engine for the Panamera, a V6 with something around 260 hp. Not sure which one of the both is going to be in the "real deal". 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    It would be interesting to see that kind of engine (+300hp diesel) on booth Panamera and Cayenne

    Will they put this engine in the Cayenne?

    Thank`s for share ISUK an RC! 


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    Just been talking with my dealer again and the 8 speed auto is standard fit in the diesel. It also has very low emissions (good news for our emissions based road tax system) and achieves around 40 MPG, 7.06ltrs per 100 km.

    The Panamera hybrid is due at the same time I'm told.


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    ISUK:

    Just been talking with my dealer again and the 8 speed auto is standard fit in the diesel. It also has very low emissions (good news for our emissions based road tax system) and achieves around 40 MPG, 7.06ltrs per 100 km.

    The Panamera hybrid is due at the same time I'm told.

     

    ISUK, can you confirm if the engine it`s that mentioned by RC

    Thank`s


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    As far as my dealer is aware it's the V6 unit from the Cayenne diesel but he doesn't know if Porsche have revised it's output for the Panamera. As soon as I have more info I'll post it.

     


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    ISUK:

    As far as my dealer is aware it's the V6 unit from the Cayenne diesel but he doesn't know if Porsche have revised it's output for the Panamera. As soon as I have more info I'll post it.

     

     


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    RC:

    I just heard that Porsche is testing a V8 Diesel (bi-turbo charged) with close to 400 horses but in the end, the production car will have something close to 360 hp. Not sure if this is the same engine AMS mentions (they mention a V6 TDi) but Porsche is surely going for a very powerful Diesel.

    I also heard about a second Diesel engine for the Panamera, a V6 with something around 260 hp. Not sure which one of the both is going to be in the "real deal". 

     NO V8 - to heavy - bad weight placement - .... - to expensive - to much consumption - bad CO2 values - ...!

    V6 diesel!


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    AM
    www.aldo-yachting.de


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

     No doubt that a V6 would be more efficient in terms of dinamic and consumption


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

     Hi!

    Six weeks ago I changed from Cayenne S to BMW X6 40d ( 306hp ) and I could not be happier. More power than 385hp from Cayenne S.

    Close as fast from 0-100 but faster on all daily situations ( 50-90 , 80-140 and so on ).

    And the best : Instead of 20 liters per 100km I need only 11.2 liters - that´s about 45 % less consumption.

    If Porsche would had such an engine a half year ago maybe I would have not changed to BMW.

    Best regards

    Gregor


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    On diesel the Torque makes the difference


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    There are indications of a revised V6 diesel engine from Audi with around 300hp. I would not be surprised if this is the exact same engine that will be used in the Panamera, as it would perfectly fit in terms of the power-to-weight ratio.

    I believe Kreso mentioned that this engine will debut in the new Audi A6.


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    Is there any info if the Panamera diesel will also be in 4 wheel drive?


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    I was told that the diesel will not come with 4 wheel drive.


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    Found this on the web this morning, here it is explained why there will be no 4 wheel drive. This make sence to me, I never realized that the V6 is different in the Panamera compaired to the Cayenne. This is also why there is a 8 speed transmission and not a PDK.

    http://www.germancarforum.com/panamera/35843-panamera-diesel-confirmed.html


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    Cayenne = VW V6

    Panamera = Porsche V8 less 2 cylinders. VW V6 too tall for lower Panamera bonnet.

    Porsche found this in-house solution for the Panamera since they had a V8 already.

    But for diesel they have to rely on VW engines for now at least.

     


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    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

     He Guys,

    today the Panamera Diesel is on the German configurator. Like expected only the 2 wheel drive version.


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    If only VW let Porsche uses the Audi V12 TDI in the Panamera...........That's a fitting engine for a diesel Porsche.


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    +1 so true, that engine is amazing.


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    indeed shifting is ancient technology - so is a fuel burning engine..  I happen to like both :) 


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    Whoopsy:

    If only VW let Porsche uses the Audi V12 TDI in the Panamera...........That's a fitting engine for a diesel Porsche.

     It would drive like a fat pig - not a Porsche!


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    AM
    www.aldo-yachting.de


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    But do you consider a diesel Porsche a real Porsche?


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

     If diesel, then only a V6 like BMW has. We need little more then 300 hp in a Panamera diesel. For me a diesel fits better then a NA V6.


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    AM
    www.aldo-yachting.de


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    ALDO:

    For me a diesel fits better then a NA V6.

    Would you choose the Diesel over the Hybrid too?


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    I would, no doubt! With such a huge torque and 250 HP, it is a fast family car, perfect for our traffic conditions in Spain where a Turbo cannot be exploited over 60%.


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    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    ALDO:

     If diesel, then only a V6 like BMW has. We need little more then 300 hp in a Panamera diesel. For me a diesel fits better then a NA V6.

     

     

    Oh, come on, think of it, 500hp 750lb-ft diesel Porsche Panamera. being labeled GREEN driving a diesel!!! especially IF Porsche use green color label on the diesel wording.

    It might handled like a pig on a race track, but outside of a race track on real roads, it would be good enough, especially from Porsche. Look no farther than the Cayenne.

     

     


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    Whoopsy:
    ALDO:

     If diesel, then only a V6 like BMW has. We need little more then 300 hp in a Panamera diesel. For me a diesel fits better then a NA V6.

     

     

    Oh, come on, think of it, 500hp 750lb-ft diesel Porsche Panamera. being labeled GREEN driving a diesel!!! especially IF Porsche use green color label on the diesel wording.

    It might handled like a pig on a race track, but outside of a race track on real roads, it would be good enough, especially from Porsche. Look no farther than the Cayenne.

     

     

     For drag racingSmiley 

    I had once a Touareg V10 TDI - some times I thought the car will fall apart when accelerating - the torque was so huge. Even more brutal the AUDI Q12 but don´t try to drive around a corner.


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    AM
    www.aldo-yachting.de


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    What about a Panamera S Diesel, with the new V6 3.0tdi 313hp?

    http://www.worldcarfans.com/111051833501/2012-audi-a6-avant-unveiled-videos


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

    It says "eventually will be offered" I expect Porsche will round that to 320 HP.

    BTW very nice the A6 Avant.


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    "Form follows function"


    Re: New Diesel for Panamera

     Maybe on the Panamera and Cayenne facelifts.


     
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