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    bluelines:
    throt:

    My exact thoughts even though I like it......991.2 could be the last ""typical"" 911 then ..

    Buddy, every 911 is the "last" of something Smiley Smiley

    So true, and I might add, the next 911 is the beginning of something else.


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    Enzo II:

    I'd say Frankfurt 2019?

    I think a year sooner than that


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    RC:
    ALDO:
    RC:
    ALDO:
    Gladstone:
    ALDO:

    I don't want to scare you! About two or three years ago or so, some time before the 4 cylinder boxster came out, I reported that also the 911 will get a 4 cylinder and I mentioned the letter "e". 

    I don't know how to find my post to repeat it, my post is still valid.

    Is that going to be the four cylinder cheap "e" version?

    e for hybrid - 4 cyl. + electrical power

    There is not going to be a 4-cyl. 992, not even as a hybrid. Smiley

    where did I say 992?

    So what? 993? Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

    There won't be a 991 with 4-cyl. either, so... Smiley

    eeeehm yes 993 Smiley-


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    I am amazed what People "know" already


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    BjoernB:

    I am amazed what People "know" already

    we "know" everything Smiley - even the press people from Porsche are asking us for in-depth informations Smiley

     


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    joka aside - on a powerpoint preseted internally (Porsche) few years ago (2-3) there was a slide with engine future technology, Boxtser 4 cyl and later 911 4 cyl with hybrid 

    Maybe this will never happen - but down-sizing is going on so maybe we will see in the next or the model after a 4 cyl. hybrid engine. 


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    Zylinder-deactivation - Problem solved  indecision - 1 more Button on the steering-wheel


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    BjoernB:

    Zylinder-deactivation - Problem solved  indecision - 1 more Button on the steering-wheel

    nope - you need space for electrical power unit, the generator and batteries. And you need to save somewhere weight for this extra weight. Plus, you can achieve stronger CO2 regulations.


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    Re: 992 Thread Closed

    Grant:
    Enzo II:

    I'd say Frankfurt 2019?

    I think a year sooner than that

    992? No.


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    Re: 992 Thread Closed

    ALDO:
    BjoernB:

    I am amazed what People "know" already

    we "know" everything Smiley - even the press people from Porsche are asking us for in-depth informations Smiley

     

    And their legal department loves us too. Smiley Smiley


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    Re: 992 Thread Closed

    ALDO:

    joka aside - on a powerpoint preseted internally (Porsche) few years ago (2-3) there was a slide with engine future technology, Boxtser 4 cyl and later 911 4 cyl with hybrid 

    Maybe this will never happen - but down-sizing is going on so maybe we will see in the next or the model after a 4 cyl. hybrid engine. 

    The 911 4-cyl. 991 or 992 will not happen...after that...only god knows (and maybe a few people at Porsche and VW Smiley). A 8 cyl 911 won't happen either (just to take the wind out of some rumors...).


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    Re: 992 Thread Closed

    BjoernB:

    Zylinder-deactivation - Problem solved  indecision - 1 more Button on the steering-wheel

    Look at their LMP1 car - 4 cyl engine with 500 hp plus 400 electrical. Okay a 911 want get 900 hp but why not 300 hp 4 cyl. engine and 150 hp electrical power. 50 km range with up to 120 km/h. You can drive in city or to work pure electrical.


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    Re: 992 Thread Closed

    ALDO:
    BjoernB:

    Zylinder-deactivation - Problem solved  indecision - 1 more Button on the steering-wheel

    Look at their LMP1 car - 4 cyl engine with 500 hp plus 400 electrical. Okay a 911 want get 900 hp but why not 300 hp 4 cyl. engine and 150 hp electrical power. 50 km range with up to 120 km/h. You can drive in city or to work pure electrical.

    Hybrid tech in the 911 is coming, just not based on a 4 cyl engine. Also probably not immediately in the Carrera models but this remains to be seen.  Smiley


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    Re: 992 Thread Closed

    RC:
    ALDO:

    joka aside - on a powerpoint preseted internally (Porsche) few years ago (2-3) there was a slide with engine future technology, Boxtser 4 cyl and later 911 4 cyl with hybrid 

    Maybe this will never happen - but down-sizing is going on so maybe we will see in the next or the model after a 4 cyl. hybrid engine. 

    The 911 4-cyl. 991 or 992 will not happen...after that...only god knows (and maybe a few people at Porsche and VW Smiley). A 8 cyl 911 won't happen either (just to take the wind out of some rumors...).

    991 i for sure - the rest we have to see or did I provide any false information or pure speculation Smiley. 8 cyl 911 is totally out of discussion - I think if I would ask one of my contacts, he would ask me if I am sick

     


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    Again: No 4 cyl. engine in the 991 or 992. This is 100%. angry Not 99.9%. Smiley


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    Re: 992 Thread Closed

    ALDO:
    BjoernB:

    Zylinder-deactivation - Problem solved  indecision - 1 more Button on the steering-wheel

    nope - you need space for electrical power unit, the generator and batteries. And you need to save somewhere weight for this extra weight. Plus, you can achieve stronger CO2 regulations.

    disagree - like the LMP1 Audi - it could drive front only.....plus you have loads of space behind the seats of a 911 - however, I am sure RC has the data already - he is on a roll indecision


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    I do not have details, unfortunately but I know what kind of engines will be used (not in detail though, just the raw data like cylinders, displacement and horse power with a minor error margin in the horse power domain).

    Hybrid tech is coming but maybe not immediately in the Carrera models. Also, it will be rather used to push power output and lower emissions/fleet consumption numbers, if you get my point. 

    I have no information on the engines used for totally new models but I heard that a possible 960 could use a new developed V8 engine (incl. hybrid tech!), which could make it into other VW Group brands as well. Not before earliest 2020 though.


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    Re: 992 Thread Closed

    BjoernB:
    ALDO:
    BjoernB:

    Zylinder-deactivation - Problem solved  indecision - 1 more Button on the steering-wheel

    nope - you need space for electrical power unit, the generator and batteries. And you need to save somewhere weight for this extra weight. Plus, you can achieve stronger CO2 regulations.

    disagree - like the LMP1 Audi - it could drive front only.....plus you have loads of space behind the seats of a 911 - however, I am sure RC has the data already - he is on a roll indecision

    I am not sure if the electrical power will go only to the front, like LMP1. In this case you loose RWD. I think we will have a combined system smaller engine together with a electrical motor as one unit. But this is pure speculation.


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    First the next Top of the line Turbo and Turbo S will get Hybrid Tech...IMO.

    Blueflame


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    blueflame:

    First the next Top of the line Turbo and Turbo S will get Hybrid Tech...IMO.

    Blueflame

    SmileyThis is the strategy Porsche will start with the current Panamera and the next gen Cayenne, Turbo S only though.


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    Re: 992 Thread Closed

    So much going on in this picture!
    First I thought that the little grey line on the front of the hood was just to camouflage the real "square" shape.
    However, then I saw that at the top of the front bonnet, the shape indicates that the car will have a 993 style front with the recess running down the center. Also, it indicates that the entire front is still wrapped in camo.
    Regarding the headlight cluster, these are as traditionally covered with a sticker resembling the old design. However, there seems to be a weird misalignment going on in all the pics of the front... so I guess that the entire front fender panels are covered with camouflage still. Let's hope that the fishbowls are gone!

    Edit; now I see that the misalignment is in the sticker, not in the panel... so the front fender might be the real thing.


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    The front lights will be smaller than now... 


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    kiss


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    From the sideviews it looks like the "fishbowls" as you call them are gone. The headlight design seems to be similar to the one of the new RSR racecar with the four LED spots.

    The side air intakes seem to be the real deal as well in some pictures. For me they look a bit too 718ish


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    On one of the picture you for see a bit of the instrument dials and it's hard to tell but semmed a bit too bright for normal analogue dials, maybe they are LCD now...


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    Yeah, I thought I saw the same.
    Regarding the shapes of the front bumper inlets, the camouflage is intended to make us believe it will look like this:

    [   \   /   ]

    But I have a feeling they will be more like this:

    [   >   <   ]

     


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    Re: 992 Thread Closed

    Haha I love playing the camo detective, browsing through all the pictures, trying to see through the camo, deducting design curves, etc.


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    Re: 992 Thread Closed

    RC:
    Grant:
    Enzo II:

    I'd say Frankfurt 2019?

    I think a year sooner than that

    992? No.

    Really?  991 was introduced Frankfurt 2011 and I thought we were on a 7 year cycle per generation (granted, Frankfurt only does even years for cars, so would be elsewhere towards end of 2018, no)???


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    Re: 992 Thread Closed

    Grant:
    RC:
    Grant:
    Enzo II:

    I'd say Frankfurt 2019?

    I think a year sooner than that

    992? No.

    Really?  991 was introduced Frankfurt 2011 and I thought we were on a 7 year cycle per generation (granted, Frankfurt only does even years for cars, so would be elsewhere towards end of 2018, no)???


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

     

    Paris 2018 or Geneva 2019 you mean?


     
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