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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Gnil:
    schmoell:

    just noticed, that Porsche has certified "Dunlop Sport Maxx Race" and "Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2" only;  not even the Cup R. I wouldn't care too much though

     

    I found all these with the N ( Porsche approved ) rating .

    Also my RS had a recal last year to update the software in order to accept  the Cup R tires . They also added a paper into the car's manuel about it . 

    Michelin Pilot Sport 4 325/30 ZR21 (108Y) XL Acoustic, N0

    Dunlop Sport Maxx Race 2
    325/30 ZR21 (108Y) XL N1

    Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 325/30 ZR21 (108Y) XL N2

    Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 R 325/30 ZR21 108Y XL N0

    Pirelli P Zero SC 325/30 ZR21 (108Y) XL N0

    Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport RS
    325/30 ZR21 (108Y) XL N0

    Thanks for the info. Seems like Porsche did not update their website .


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Here is what my tire guy told me :
    Cup 2  - everyone knows them. It's a good tire when dry and does reasonably well in the wet. 
    Cup2R - expensive, does miracles when dry, doesn't work in the wet, higher wear than the CUP2
    Goodyear Supersport R - quite similar to the Cup2. Guy claimed that durability is slightly better
    Goodyear Supersport RS - similar to the Cup2R, hard to get at the moment, no experience
    Dunlop Sport Maxx Race 2 - again similar to the Cup2. Some customers claim that it's better than the Michelin, others claim the opposite. According to my tire guy the Goodyear Supersport R is the better choice. He also thinks, that sooner or later the Dunlop brand will disappear in Europe

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    schmoell:

    just noticed, that Porsche has certified "Dunlop Sport Maxx Race" and "Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2" only;  not even the Cup R. I wouldn't care too much though

    Correct - they do not make the Cup 2R tires in GT3 sizes (just like these new Goodyear RS tires).  I think this is largely a marketing decision to further separate the GT3 from RS with lap times (in reality, the cars are not that different with equal tires).


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Grant:
    schmoell:

    just noticed, that Porsche has certified "Dunlop Sport Maxx Race" and "Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2" only;  not even the Cup R. I wouldn't care too much though

    Correct - they do not make the Cup 2R tires in GT3 sizes (just like these new Goodyear RS tires).  I think this is largely a marketing decision to further separate the GT3 from RS with lap times (in reality, the cars are not that different with equal tires).


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

    The Ferrari version of the Cup R fits the GT3; and I agree, with equal tires they have very similar performance


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    schmoell:
    Grant:
    schmoell:

    just noticed, that Porsche has certified "Dunlop Sport Maxx Race" and "Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2" only;  not even the Cup R. I wouldn't care too much though

    Correct - they do not make the Cup 2R tires in GT3 sizes (just like these new Goodyear RS tires).  I think this is largely a marketing decision to further separate the GT3 from RS with lap times (in reality, the cars are not that different with equal tires).


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

    The Ferrari version of the Cup R fits the GT3; and I agree, with equal tires they have very similar performance

    I wonder if that's a good idea.  The N-rated tires made for Porsche have unusual dimensions (the stock 305 rear tires are built like 325mm tires to fit the wide 12" wheels) and load ratings.


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    I was thinking the same, but a friend drives them on his GT3 without problems


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    schmoell:

    Here is what my tire guy told me :
    Cup 2  - everyone knows them. It's a good tire when dry and does reasonably well in the wet. 
    Cup2R - expensive, does miracles when dry, doesn't work in the wet, higher wear than the CUP2
    Goodyear Supersport R - quite similar to the Cup2. Guy claimed that durability is slightly better
    Goodyear Supersport RS - similar to the Cup2R, hard to get at the moment, no experience
    Dunlop Sport Maxx Race 2 - again similar to the Cup2. Some customers claim that it's better than the Michelin, others claim the opposite. According to my tire guy the Goodyear Supersport R is the better choice. He also thinks, that sooner or later the Dunlop brand will disappear in Europe

     

    Very interesting , thanks . 

    I have the same experience and opinion about Michelin Cup 2 and Dunlop Sport Maxx Race 2 

    Wondering now more about those Goodyear Supersport R .... 

     


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    schmoell:

    I was thinking the same, but a friend drives them on his GT3 without problems

    Is he way faster with the R tires?  Only lasts for a day or two?


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Video on the transformation of my Signal Yellow GT3RS. Key objective was to replace all the external black plastic bits with carbon weave that is indistinguishable from OEM. If you get bored go to 7:10 and 14:20 .   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv8q3llmqlo .

     

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile:

    Video on the transformation of my Signal Yellow GT3RS. Key objective was to replace all the external black plastic bits with carbon weave that is indistinguishable from OEM. If you get bored go to 7:10 and 14:20 .   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv8q3llmqlo .

    Impressive, thanks for sharing. Smiley Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    angel It must be something to see it in real life !!  Better suited now to stay in the living room then on dirty roads indecision


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile:

    Video on the transformation of my Signal Yellow GT3RS. Key objective was to replace all the external black plastic bits with carbon weave that is indistinguishable from OEM. If you get bored go to 7:10 and 14:20 .   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv8q3llmqlo .

     

     

    ... If you get bored go to 7:10 and 14:20 ... ??? 

    in this special situation, these 17 minutes are well spent - thx for sharing...Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    wow amazing level to detail.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    angel


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile:

    Video on the transformation of my Signal Yellow GT3RS. Key objective was to replace all the external black plastic bits with carbon weave that is indistinguishable from OEM. If you get bored go to 7:10 and 14:20 .   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv8q3llmqlo .

     

     

    Looks great! Given you're already into quite an expensively specced RS, would you be tempted to go for the MR package? Haven't seen customer cars with the package on GT3 RS's yet, but I know Topaz' owner has done it on his GT2.


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Fantastic work by Topaz; and the car now is even more stunning


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Wow.....the final result is impressive, nevertheless I expected to have that paint quality on the final product not on extra service and cost to the customer Smiley

    Do you have the same wotk on the other cars?


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

     What does the level five detail cost for a RS? He mentioned this was a collectors car. You plan to use it or store it?

    Maybe I'm fortunate in that I don't look or see paint imperfections. indecision


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Porker:
    Looks great! Given you're already into quite an expensively specced RS, would you be tempted to go for the MR package? Haven't seen customer cars with the package on GT3 RS's yet, but I know Topaz' owner has done it on his GT2.

    That's a good idea. I might look into that. I have driven the GT2RS MR ( you can guess whose Smiley) on the road and was amazed how different the steering feels and how compliant it was on the road, can only imagine how good it is on the track.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    pgouveia:

    Wow.....the final result is impressive, nevertheless I expected to have that paint quality on the final product not on extra service and cost to the customer Smiley

    Do you have the same wotk on the other cars?

    Generally only on non-metallic cars that I plan to keep longer term - the transformation with the Level 5 is spectacular especially with a flat black car.  There is no comparison to a newly delivered car with factory paint to one that has been sanded down and polished in this manner - it is night and day.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    nberry:

     What does the level five detail cost for a RS? He mentioned this was a collectors car. You plan to use it or store it?

    Maybe I'm fortunate in that I don't look or see paint imperfections. indecision

    We may only be virtual acquaintances, but I think you know me well enough to answer that question SmileySmiley.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile:
    Porker:
    Looks great! Given you're already into quite an expensively specced RS, would you be tempted to go for the MR package? Haven't seen customer cars with the package on GT3 RS's yet, but I know Topaz' owner has done it on his GT2.

    That's a good idea. I might look into that. I have driven the GT2RS MR ( you can guess whose Smiley) on the road and was amazed how different the steering feels and how compliant it was on the road, can only imagine how good it is on the track.

    You're basically getting the GT3 R's suspension, I believe it makes a huge difference.

    I had their full suspension setup on my 997 RS at the time, and even back then it was more compliant than OEM yet much more tightly controlled.


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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile:

    Video on the transformation of my Signal Yellow GT3RS. Key objective was to replace all the external black plastic bits with carbon weave that is indistinguishable from OEM. If you get bored go to 7:10 and 14:20 .   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv8q3llmqlo .

     

     

    this is just pure art. gorgeous configuration Smiley


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 manual

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    pgouveia:

    Wow.....the final result is impressive, nevertheless I expected to have that paint quality on the final product not on extra service and cost to the customer Smiley

    Do you have the same wotk on the other cars?

    I saw many many deliveries including mine which was special project and the paint quality is SmileySmileySmiley

    unacceptable to be honest.


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 manual

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Porker:
    crayphile:
    Porker:
    Looks great! Given you're already into quite an expensively specced RS, would you be tempted to go for the MR package? Haven't seen customer cars with the package on GT3 RS's yet, but I know Topaz' owner has done it on his GT2.

    That's a good idea. I might look into that. I have driven the GT2RS MR ( you can guess whose Smiley) on the road and was amazed how different the steering feels and how compliant it was on the road, can only imagine how good it is on the track.

    You're basically getting the GT3 R's suspension, I believe it makes a huge difference.

    I had their full suspension setup on my 997 RS at the time, and even back then it was more compliant than OEM yet much more tightly controlled.

    Good buddy has complete MR package on ''regular'' GT3, he is faster than 3RS WP stock.

    however, the 3RS WP with MR preparation will be a monster. he just bought one and about to do the same magic to it. the 3RS is just on another level with proper setup. it is an RS.Smiley


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

    991.2 GT3 manual

    Cayenne GTS 2014


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Wow oh wow, looks amazing! kiss Signal yellow is one of my favourites.. 


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    DaveGordon:

    Wow oh wow, looks amazing! kiss Signal yellow is one of my favourites.. 

    +1 on both counts!


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    ⇒ Carlos - Porsche 991 Carrera GTS


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    the-missile:
    Porker:
    crayphile:
    Porker:
    Looks great! Given you're already into quite an expensively specced RS, would you be tempted to go for the MR package? Haven't seen customer cars with the package on GT3 RS's yet, but I know Topaz' owner has done it on his GT2.

    That's a good idea. I might look into that. I have driven the GT2RS MR ( you can guess whose Smiley) on the road and was amazed how different the steering feels and how compliant it was on the road, can only imagine how good it is on the track.

    You're basically getting the GT3 R's suspension, I believe it makes a huge difference.

    I had their full suspension setup on my 997 RS at the time, and even back then it was more compliant than OEM yet much more tightly controlled.

    Good buddy has complete MR package on ''regular'' GT3, he is faster than 3RS WP stock.

    however, the 3RS WP with MR preparation will be a monster. he just bought one and about to do the same magic to it. the 3RS is just on another level with proper setup. it is an RS.Smiley

    Agree it's a fantastic package. Cost is outrageous though but if you can afford it, you get the ultimate weapon in return imo.


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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    May I ask where those carbon parts come from ? I am tempted to throw some of them on kiss


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    BjoernB:

    May I ask where those carbon parts come from ? I am tempted to throw some of them on kiss

    I think it's Topaz' foil + clear lacquer over the OEM parts, correct me if I'm wrong crayphile.


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    1969 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.3  / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (sold) / 2011 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Performance / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2018 Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport


     
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