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    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    He will have to deal with Obama's appointed ideological hacks who don't even obey their own regulations and laws. After several recent EPA fiascos the timing could not be worse for him. Merkel needs to make a personal leadership and very public stance, maybe say look, some idiots at VW got stupid, but that's no reason to harm Germany's biggest employer.


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    VW sales in the US have not been impact in any significant way. Their results were lower because they set aside 6.8 billion to deal with the cheat.


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    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    JimFlat6:

    He will have to deal with Obama's appointed ideological hacks who don't even obey their own regulations and laws. After several recent EPA fiascos the timing could not be worse for him. Merkel needs to make a personal leadership and very public stance, maybe say look, some idiots at VW got stupid, but that's no reason to harm Germany's biggest employer.

    Smiley


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    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    bluelines:
    JimFlat6:

    He will have to deal with Obama's appointed ideological hacks who don't even obey their own regulations and laws. After several recent EPA fiascos the timing could not be worse for him. Merkel needs to make a personal leadership and very public stance, maybe say look, some idiots at VW got stupid, but that's no reason to harm Germany's biggest employer.

    Smiley

    He'll be unemployed in a little over a year.  Perhaps you would like to lead your country after he is finished here.


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    You can start donating to my campaign now.smiley Or, if you are a very large donor, contact Nick who will run the superpac. indecision


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    JimFlat6:

    You can start donating to my campaign now.smiley Or, if you are a very large donor, contact Nick who will run the superpac. indecision

    Another victimized post by autocorrection - that job offer is for the POTUS to move to Switzerland, not you. 


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    CGX car nut:
    bluelines:
    JimFlat6:

    He will have to deal with Obama's appointed ideological hacks who don't even obey their own regulations and laws. After several recent EPA fiascos the timing could not be worse for him. Merkel needs to make a personal leadership and very public stance, maybe say look, some idiots at VW got stupid, but that's no reason to harm Germany's biggest employer.

    Smiley

    He'll be unemployed in a little over a year.  Perhaps you would like to lead your country after he is finished here.

    Yes, in a year there will be a new guy and everything will be well again... everything *compassionate pad on the shoulder* 

    Smiley


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    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    bluelines:
    CGX car nut:
    bluelines:
    JimFlat6:

    He will have to deal with Obama's appointed ideological hacks who don't even obey their own regulations and laws. After several recent EPA fiascos the timing could not be worse for him. Merkel needs to make a personal leadership and very public stance, maybe say look, some idiots at VW got stupid, but that's no reason to harm Germany's biggest employer.

    Smiley

    He'll be unemployed in a little over a year.  Perhaps you would like to lead your country after he is finished here.

    Yes, in a year there will be a new guy and everything will be well again... everything *compassionate pad on the shoulder* 

    Smiley

    That's quite doubtful, given the structural problems of the United States and members of Congress with tin ears.


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    BREAKING: VW Used Emissions Cheat on Audi and Porsche Diesels

     

    http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/news/a27233/breaking-vw-used-emissions-cheat-on-audi-and-porsche/


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Audi A6, A7 and A8... and the Cayenne. Naughty, naughty 


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    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    There is no way this stops at a handful of engineers.


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    3.0 V6 Diesels (2014 Volkswagen Touareg, the 2015 Porsche Cayenne, and the 2016 Audis A6 Quattro, A7 Quattro, A8, A8L, and Q5). At least 10,000 cars in the U.S. alone. 


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    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    This is not a good development for Volkswagen AG, making any type of reasonable settlement with the U.S. federal government and the California Air Resources Board ("CARB") much more difficult with these latest allegations.  However, it is doubtful that Volkswagen is the only automaker with diesels offered for sale in the United States that is employing a "defeat device" to meet U.S. Clean Air Act emission standards.


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/11/02/epa-diesel-suv-volkswagen-audi-porsche/75044132/

    "We have clear evidence of these additional violations and we thought it was important to put Volkswagen on notice and to inform the public," Cynthia Giles, assistant administrator for EPA's Office of Enforcement and Compliance Assurance, told reporters on a conference call.

    EPA officials said they discovered the additional cheating while testing Volkswagen's vehicles. They have found nothing similar while conducting tests of other car companies.


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Between VW and Merkel it's shaping up for a bad news year for Germany. Maybe the Syrian refugees could be trained to repair VW diesel emissions systems.


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Smileynot good from PR / investor markets standpoint either as these 2014-2016 V6 diesels as used in several Porsche models  occurred on new VW CEO Mathias Muller's watch there, esp after his earlier statement upon being appointed VW CEO that this cheating only occurred on diesel motors developed 7-8 yrs ago

    looks like " next man up " soon

     


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Volkswagen is denying the EPA's allegations with any software modifications to the auxiliary emission control devices as defined in the EPA's Notice of Violation letter for the 3.0 l TDi engines, issued earlier today.  What is interesting is that the Volkswagen Group has had several of the vehicles on sale for more than a couple of years than what is defined in the EPA classification of the violation group.  


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    CGX car nut:

    Volkswagen is denying the EPA's allegations with any software modifications to the auxiliary emission control devices as defined in the EPA's Notice of Violation letter for the 3.0 l TDi engines, issued earlier today.  What is interesting is that the Volkswagen Group has had several of the vehicles on sale for more than a couple of years than what is defined in the EPA classification of the violation group.  

    VW's carefully worded response seems ,to me , like it will just dig itself a deeper hole . In one news story, they deny vehicles have software designed to cheat tests. Instead the company says that ( US 2014-16 ) cars with the 3.0 litre diesel V6 engines "had a software function which had not been adequately described in the application process". 


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    MKW:
    CGX car nut:

    Volkswagen is denying the EPA's allegations with any software modifications to the auxiliary emission control devices as defined in the EPA's Notice of Violation letter for the 3.0 l  I  engines, issued earlier today.  What is interesting is that the Volkswagen Group has had several of the vehicles on sale for more than a couple of years than what is defined in the EPA classification of the violation group.  

    VW's carefully worded response seems ,to me , like it will just dig itself a deeper hole . In one news story, they deny vehicles have software designed to cheat tests. Instead the company says that ( US 2014-16 ) cars with the 3.0 litre diesel V6 engines "had a software function which had not been adequately described in the application process". 

    One must remember that there are numerous "secret" negotiations between the EPA and industry on a variety of issues and regulations.  The EPA issues a number of exemptions to various automakers; however, the authority fully resides with the EPA, usually through California's CARB, to certify models as being in compliance with standards.  This appears more as a negotiation strategy, at this juncture, to pressure Volkswagen, for some reason.  

    Here is an article on the subject in The Wall Street Journal: http://www.wsj.com/articles/epa-notifies-volkswagen-of-added-emissions-violations-1446491504

     


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Just like Libor - once the USofA has their teeth into something....well yes


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    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Porsche just stopped-sales for the Cayenne in the US. This is huge! Time to buy shares 


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    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Stop-sale on Cayenne diesel only. I would imagine that the diesel models were not the bulk of their sales in the USA.


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    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Now petrol being dragged into this!

    Here is the Wall Street's reaction :http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-04/volkswagen-tumbles-again-emissions-scandal-deepens-gas-engines-implicated-too


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Reportedly 800.000 petrol cars in Europe from the four main brands with 1.4, 1.6 and 2.0 engines.

    Isn't this too small a number given the production volumes


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    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Well... I am becoming a strong beliver in conspiracy theory here.

    What to do now? Group Tesla buy or Corvette buy?

     angry 

     


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    KresoF1:

    Well... I am becoming a strong beliver in conspiracy theory here.

    What to do now? Group Tesla buy or Corvette buy?

     angry 

    Smiley


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    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Spyderidol:

    Now petrol being dragged into this!

    Here is the Wall Street's reaction :http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-04/volkswagen-tumbles-again-emissions-scandal-deepens-gas-engines-implicated-too

    Everything I've seen about this latest CO2 emissions issue, including the above linked article and despite the apparently misleading headline, indicates that it's still only diesels that are affected. 


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    From a superficial read one could (mis) understand that the Porsche Cayenne diesel is equipped with a Volkswagen engine. That is not great PR either.


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    KresoF1:

    Well... I am becoming a strong beliver in conspiracy theory here.

    What to do now? Group Tesla buy or Corvette buy?

     angry 

     

    I am not into conspiracy, but it is hard for me to understand and believe that VW group would be the only car manufacturer affected ?  I certainly do not have an engineering background, still, all the "other" world car producers are sound and safe ??? Strange...


    Re: VW caught cheating emissions tests

    Well, let me go back that far...  indecision


     
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