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    2017 Singapore F1 Grand Prix at Marina Bay

    Singapore next


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    Re: 2017 Singapore F1 Grand Prix at Marina Bay

    ...let's hope for a Ferrari recovery otherwise this season will be a wrap...


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    Looks like ferrari is in trouble.....in my opinion they have no chance to help vettel Fight with Hamilton 


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    Looking forward to qualifying tonight. 0.5s is a big margin. Would be good to see DR on poll. Not biased based on nationality of course...


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    xander71:

    Looks like ferrari is in trouble.....in my opinion they have no chance to help vettel Fight with Hamilton 

    How wrong were you! In saying that the RBs are quick in race trim, if they can get pass Vettel at the start. 


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    Im happy i was wrong, but today vettel made a super lap, and he deserved the pole, they have to win here in order to keep the f1 alive. But i think that in the next races mercedes will be stronger again.

    but i hope that ferrari will gain power to catch up the gap.

    what i saw in moza was a car that had 30/50  hp less compared to mercedes in qualifying, and that gap is almost impossible to catch up


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    xander71:

    Im happy i was wrong, but today vettel made a super lap, and he deserved the pole, they have to win here in order to keep the f1 alive. But i think that in the next races mercedes will be stronger again.

    but i hope that ferrari will gain power to catch up the gap.

    what i saw in moza was a car that had 30/50  hp less compared to mercedes in qualifying, and that gap is almost impossible to catch up

    + 1 👌


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    Wet Singapore! This is going to be exciting!


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    FFS Seb he just cocked up the season !!!


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    Worst start in F1 history for Ferrari I would imagine:

    https://streamable.com/oanyl

     

     


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    Difficult to say who's at fault. Verstappen was going almost straight. Vettel is the one who is drifting off the most of the three. Verstappen only moved slighty to the left because Vettel aggressively came into him from his right side. Then Verstappen didn't leave much room for Kimi who had a terrific start and was at eye level with Verstappen when they hit.

    I'm no expert, but I would say that either Vettel was at fault, or no one, and these things just happen, albeit very rarely. It's the 4th time in history that this occurred.


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    https://twitter.com/GvanderGarde/status/909388710495604736


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    We were robbed of a great race with Vettel's shenanigans and Ricciardo's oil pressure issue. 


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    In this video you can very well see how far that Vettel wanders off to his left 

     


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    Gauss:

    Difficult to say who's at fault. Verstappen was going almost straight. Vettel is the one who is drifting off the most of the three. Verstappen only moved slighty to the left because Vettel aggressively came into him from his right side. Then Verstappen didn't leave much room for Kimi who had a terrific start and was at eye level with Verstappen when they hit.

    I'm no expert, but I would say that either Vettel was at fault, or no one, and these things just happen, albeit very rarely. It's the 4th time in history that this occurred.

    Good summary

    The race had such potential, so frustrating 


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    If max had slowed vettel would have taken Kimi out for certain and max might have had the last laugh. I think it was vettels mistake. Not smart. Lewis was there to take advantage and drove it home like a taxi 


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    I also think that Vettel, who must have been under a lot of pressure, simply panicked and snapped, sort of, when he noticed that he didn't get a perfect start. He wanted to defend his 1st position by all cost, and by force. 


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    In the press interviews right after the incident he appeared very calm, sad, like if he had bad conscience. Very unlike the character we saw in Azerbaijan, when he drove into Hamilton, and thought he was "in the right".


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    Gauss:

    I also think that Vettel, who must have been under a lot of pressure, simply panicked and snapped, sort of, when he noticed that he didn't get a perfect start. He wanted to defend his 1st position by all cost, and by force. 

    Agreed for such a seasoned campainer he is showing major chinks in his armour !!

    I support Ferrari and by default Vettel, Hamilton is proving to be the real master, from here on in Merc will be tough to beat unless Hamilton makes a mistake but at the moment he is the real iceman!!


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    Gauss:

    https://twitter.com/GvanderGarde/status/909388710495604736

    Smiley


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    I missed that. Love the Internet!!!


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    FIA take ‘no further action’ against Vettel, Kimi, Max

    http://www.planetf1.com/news/fia-take-no-further-action-against-vettel-kimi-max/

    Not really surprised by this verdict, as further penalty to Ferrari would have pretty much ended the suspense for this year's championship, if it's not already to late.


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    Gauss:

    FIA take ‘no further action’ against Vettel, Kimi, Max

    http://www.planetf1.com/news/fia-take-no-further-action-against-vettel-kimi-max/

    Not really surprised by this verdict, as further penalty to Ferrari would have pretty much ended the suspense for this year's championship, if it's not already to late.

    Vettel definitely to blame. What a fool Smiley. He is only human though, and we all make mistakes.


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    Kimi still had another half a car width open to his left. Should have expected Vettel to be pushing Max, and used that room.

    Would have been a brilliant move by Vettel if Kimi hadn't had such a great start. Turned into two Ferrari errors.


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    Mercedes-Benz are in a different class from FIAT-Ferrari in engineering and management.

    Vettel, although a very good driver himself,  has deficits in holding his nerve in delicate situations and in handling pressure, compared to Hamilton.

    The best driver in the best car is no contest, excepting a twist of fate which is always a possibility in sport and in life.


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    crayphile:
    Gauss:

    FIA take ‘no further action’ against Vettel, Kimi, Max

    http://www.planetf1.com/news/fia-take-no-further-action-against-vettel-kimi-max/

    Not really surprised by this verdict, as further penalty to Ferrari would have pretty much ended the suspense for this year's championship, if it's not already to late.

    Vettel definitely to blame. What a fool Smiley. He is only human though, and we all make mistakes.

    +1 although by now he should know you're not winning the race in the first Corner if you had a worse start than the others around you


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    The bad news is that the F1 championship is almost ended with that bad move.

    but ham is a lucky One......and he will win easy because Mercedes is so superior comparse to all other team now.

    it is still a One car championship A.S. Last year 


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    Max Verstappen reckons Sebastian Vettel wasn’t “smart” at the start of the Singapore GP.

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    Verstappen believes Vettel is to blame for the crash despite the stewards ruling that it was a racing incident.

    http://www.planetf1.com/news/verstappen-not-smart-from-a-title-contender/


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    Well in any case, Malaysia is next. Let's hope that Ferrari can still fight back.


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    Gauss:

    Well in any case, Malaysia is next. Let's hope that Ferrari can still fight back.

    well with such a point deficit now there is now way Ferrari can bag the championship without a twist of fate impacting Mercedes. 
    Vettel's own fault on this one...what a stupid start and pity for the rest of the season Smiley


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