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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Josef:

    I love head-up displays, I have it in my Mercedes, would not want the car without it anymore...

    Funny, people either love or hate head-up displays. Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    The new 992 is the best looking 911 since the 993 (imho), slightly better than the 997 which might have better proportions to my eyes (smaller) but the base Carrera isn't as cool as the new one.

    I even love the interior (Braun shaver included which jokes aside is much better integrated than the now old PDK knob) . True, it might be too much for a sports car but I guess GT versions won't feel that elegant when dressed in CF.

    Regarding the touchscreen, agree on that with all of you. This isn't the way to go in cars, the usability is limited to say the least. Developing a good Watson and operating absolute everything with voice commands would be ideal.


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    RC:
    Carlos from Spain:

    The problem with touch screens on vehicles is two find, one is the problem of the movement of the vehicle making it hard to hit the right button, but also that unlike physical buttons and nobs, you have to use your hand-eye coordination to direct the movent of your finger to hit the target, that takes a lot of concentration realstate for your brain, and while you are doing it you have to relinquish your awareness on driving for the duration and adjusting back to driving period since the brain cannot multitask those two tasks, that is why texting while driving is so dangerous. There is a reason race cars don't have touch screens and an F1 wheel is clouded with buttons, or a plain's cockpit. Unfortunately people are day by day getting more clueless about driving and more worried about doing other things while driving.

    Well said, Carlos... Smiley This could be "compensated" by technology but nobody came up with a solution (so far). Probably not important enough for car manufacturers to "bother", especially since this wouldn't be something customers would really "experience" first hand. It would just "work" and this is not something people usually want to pay for. Smiley 

     

    The solution is extremely simple. 

    Make the virtual buttons physically move in and out to register a 'touch'. and segmented all the virtual buttons with ridges or gaps, making them individual buttons so one can feel them with touch only without looking. 

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Apple is working on that kind of tech. If they can reproduce some of their previous feat, they would have 2-5 years head start on the tech...


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    from Autocar:

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/new-992-series-porsche-911-mild-hybrid-and-plug-hybrid-versions-detailed


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Batteries in the front trunk...


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    SciFrog:

    Batteries in the front trunk...

    ...yes, but that way it "is expected to greatly improve the weight distribution"..... what a laugh!   New improved hybrid power, and thanks to the batteries, presto - your antiquated rear-heavy 911 is now balanced!  


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    There were a couple avenues that they have explored. 

    I have the general idea when I chatted with Walliser before discussing such a thing.

    Now that he is the 911 Czar, he can implement them if he wishes.

     


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Sport Desing Pack is now available...

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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    The partial paint job at the rear does it make look uglier than without the Sport Design. Unbelievable. mail


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Horrible at the back


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    in black it would be nice indecision


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    So much better from the front!


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    The front is back to normal with the painted slanted stalks separating the intakes so that is good, but how in the heck did they manage to make the rear ever worse in the sportdesign? is this how a 992 GTS going to look like? did't think it was possible but looks even more like a Panamera now mail


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Obviously Porsche design department is running out of ideas Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    I know everyone is raving about the front, but I'm not sure that I like it more than the "normal" version.

     

    Im not sure what happened when they decided to design the rear, but whoever it was needs to urgently see an ophthalmologist and/or psychiatrist.


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Not sure how much space the battery will occupy but wouldn't it be good to have it in the center in front of the gearbox?


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Italo:

    Obviously Porsche design department is running out of ideas Smiley

    Thats exactly what I wrote here when E3 Cayenne came out...sooo disappointing design line...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    dxpetrov:

    So much better from the front!

    Because it makes it look like a 991.2 GT3 smileykiss


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Rossi:

    The partial paint job at the rear does it make look uglier than without the Sport Design. Unbelievable. mail

    Smiley Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    SportCarGroup:
    Italo:

    Obviously Porsche design department is running out of ideas Smiley

    Thats exactly what I wrote here when E3 Cayenne came out...sooo disappointing design line...

    Exactly! And then it continued with horrible Macan redesign! Smiley

    I don't know, but lately it's quite symptomatic for all German manufacturers to lose there way! It's just too many unnecessary little details without any sense of function behind it! It's pure ornamentation, nothing else!

    GIVE US BACK OUR BELOVED GERMAN TEUTONIC DESIGN LANGUAGE!

    There are more than enough of Toyotas, Hondas, KIAs of this World!


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    I like the rear design in the photo, but I don’t like the cost of the overall  sport design package. Maybe side skirts, but the rest of the package is not worth it IMHO.


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Yep; we've been in the baroque period of German design for some time now (not only cars, other products as well, e.g., new Braun shavers). It looks like we're now entering the rococo phase... Perhaps in a couple of decades, we will have another Buahaus like movement and get back to simple, clean, functional (and imho elegant) designs.

     

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    dxpetrov:

    I don't know, but lately it's quite symptomatic for all German manufacturers to lose there way! It's just too many unnecessary little details without any sense of function behind it! It's pure ornamentation, nothing else!

    GIVE US BACK OUR BELOVED GERMAN TEUTONIC DESIGN LANGUAGE!

    There are more than enough of Toyotas, Hondas, KIAs of this World!

    I feel the same way as you do. However, it is also a bit of hit and miss. For example, I think that BMW lost it a bit, they haven't brought out a single car lately which appeals to me, and they seem to have quite a lot of interest in general... I haven't heard anybody getting excited about the want factor of a BMW. On the other hand is Mercedes, which has also changed its design language dramatically with a lot of -in me eyes- unnecessary design frills. They seem to have become VERY popular though in the segment where people care about spectacular looks&design. (not me).

    I guess Porsche is somewhere in the middle, and they are facing a VERY tough crowd to be honest, as Porsche fans are almost as fanatic as Ferrari fans, but then much more critical; where Ferrari fans seem to praise everything that comes out of Maranello, Porsche fans are always critical first... (again, in my experience).


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    I think the problem is with design department management in general. The design crew became lazy and uncreative because of conduct. Design department always must work in conditions of competition. Be creative, fashion wise, practise wise etc. Apparently, the head of Porsche design department has low requirements and even lower expectations from the design crew...that's the result. IMHO yes


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Carlos from Spain:

    The front is back to normal with the painted slanted stalks separating the intakes so that is good, but how in the heck did they manage to make the rear ever worse in the sportdesign? is this how a 992 GTS going to look like? did't think it was possible but looks even more like a Panamera now mail

    Totally agree with this...


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    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Joost:

    I guess Porsche is somewhere in the middle, and they are facing a VERY tough crowd to be honest, as Porsche fans are almost as fanatic as Ferrari fans, but then much more critical; where Ferrari fans seem to praise everything that comes out of Maranello, Porsche fans are always critical first... (again, in my experience).

    I guess you haven't read Ferrarichat much, if at all, then Smiley  A new Ferrari always polarises opinion. It is a carbon copy of the Porsche world with fans of certain models believing their car is the point at which the last beautiful Ferrari was made. That argument has raged over there for years especially on the mid engined V8 models.


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    Italians tend not to make such grotesque mistakes. Apart from completely wrong concepts to start with, like Alfa Stelvio...


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    See Fiat Multipla as a counter-argument.


    Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

    CGX car nut:

    See Fiat Multipla as a counter-argument.

    Ouch...Smiley


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