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Jan 17, 2010 5:28:28 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 57796, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002

BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

BMW X6 xDrive40d (306 HP twin turbo engine)
BMW X6 xDrive30d (245 HP)
BMW X6 xDrive35i (306 HP with twin turbo powered 6-cyl. engine)
8-speed automatic transmission available for the whole model range.
Also available: speed limit info, side view and lane change warning system.
No word about the X5, weird.

Download the (german language) press .pdf file here:

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/pressclub/p/de/download.html?textId=92663&textAttachmentId=112577

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Jan 17, 2010 6:18:17 PM

intouch1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Red Sea , Egypt; Posts: 5494, Gallery; Registered on: May 22, 2004; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

so our M vrsions will be untouched ? i sure hope so ?

i also believe we have the newest idrive ?

hope so for the sake of the M adapters here....

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Jan 17, 2010 6:36:40 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 57796, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: intouch1

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

M version could still get the 8 speed auto tranny and some of the new options but everythint else should stay the same.

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Jan 17, 2010 6:36:43 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 13100, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: intouch1

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

Dropping the 400hp xDrive50?

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Jan 17, 2010 6:37:50 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 57796, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

Whoopsy:

Dropping the 400hp xDrive50?

Nope, the mentioned engines are an addition/replacement. The 50i and the PP are still available.

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Jan 17, 2010 6:47:52 PM

Conny997: Expert; Loc: Munich , Germany; Posts: 1682, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 1, 2006; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

I don't believe on a 8-speed auto tranny for the M versions as the new M5 (2011) will not have it Smiley

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Jan 17, 2010 7:04:04 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 57796, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Conny997

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

The M5 gets DCT instead, so the 8 speed auto tranny could be possible for the X5/X6 M.
I still don't care. The 6-speed auto tranny does a marvelous job, Autobild Sportscars compared it to the DCT shifting speed, they were very impressed and I agree.

I want my X5 M as fast as possible, I won't wait for the LCI.

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Jan 17, 2010 7:30:01 PM

Conny997: Expert; Loc: Munich , Germany; Posts: 1682, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 1, 2006; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

RC:

The M5 gets DCT instead, so the 8 speed auto tranny could be possible for the X5/X6 M.

This is precisely the reason why I DON' T believe in the 8-speed auto tranny in M models.
The 8-speed gearbox doesn't tolerate either the torque or it can't provide the fast shiftings I guess. Smiley

Actually I am quite happy with the 6-speed auto tranny in the X5M. Shifting is one of the highlights with the X5M, particularly the downshifting with the sweet "blob-blob" in the exhaust... Smiley

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Jan 17, 2010 8:47:23 PM

janus: Veteran; Loc: Croatia; Posts: 1067, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 13, 2004; Reply to: Conny997

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

when will the tri-turbo diesel hit already!?

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Jan 17, 2010 11:25:14 PM

artur777: Senior; Loc: Europe , Russia; Posts: 774, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 8, 2008; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

are you sure not to wait for LCI?

wont you be dissapointed then?

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Jan 18, 2010 12:23:13 AM

pjd: Senior; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 752, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: janus

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

janus:

when will the tri-turbo diesel hit already!?

I heard that rumor some time ago... is it true??

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Jan 18, 2010 8:21:25 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 57796, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: pjd

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

According to a source, the tri-turbo Diesel, a very powerful one, will hit the markets around 2011.

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Jan 18, 2010 8:28:42 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 57796, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Conny997

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

Conny997:

Actually I am quite happy with the 6-speed auto tranny in the X5M. Shifting is one of the highlights with the X5M, particularly the downshifting with the sweet "blob-blob" in the exhaust...

I doubt that the 8-speed tranny is having problems with the torque, the 760i with over 750 Nm torque uses the 8-speed Steptronic. Smiley This is also one of the reasons BMW might use the 8-speed auto tranny in the X5/X6 M because otherwise, these two models would probably remain the last ones in this performance category to use the 6-speed tranny.

There is another point: fleet consumption. The 8-speed auto tranny could help lowering it, if BMW uses it on the X5/X6 M.

I still don't care, like you said, BMW did a marvelous job with the 6-speed auto tranny for the X5/X6 M and even if the 8-speed auto tranny may have a slight advantage in the lower speed range, there might be a disadvantage in the higher speed range because of the long 8th gear.

Time will tell.

@artur777: yes, I'm pretty sure I don't want to wait for the facelift/LCI. Right now my dealer is checking a possibility to get my car earlier because there has been a delay in the ordering process and apparently he messed up things. I don't care about the new rear lights or the possible 8-speed auto tranny, the engine stays the same.

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Jan 18, 2010 8:51:27 AM

intouch1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Red Sea , Egypt; Posts: 5494, Gallery; Registered on: May 22, 2004; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

doesn't make too much difference for eithr btwen 6 or 8 gear tranny as long as it is well integrated. which the 6 gear seems to be.

the engine has enough torque and power anyways.

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Jan 18, 2010 12:21:38 PM

pjd: Senior; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 752, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

RC:

According to a source, the tri-turbo Diesel, a very powerful one, will hit the markets around 2011.

In what model range? 5, 6, 7 series and X5/X6?

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Jan 18, 2010 3:19:37 PM

Enmanuel: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Boston , United States; Posts: 7573, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 7, 2008; Reply to: pjd

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

pjd:

RC:

According to a source, the tri-turbo Diesel, a very powerful one, will hit the markets around 2011.

In what model range? 5, 6, 7 series and X5/X6?

It would make sense to have it in the 5 and on the X range.

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Jan 18, 2010 3:51:34 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 57796, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Enmanuel

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

5, 7 and X5/X6 I guess.

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Jan 18, 2010 4:30:10 PM

pjd: Senior; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 752, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

I hope it`s true... it will be a very desirable engine...

Anyone know what type of engine? 3.0 liter?

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Jan 18, 2010 11:05:03 PM

janus: Veteran; Loc: Croatia; Posts: 1067, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 13, 2004; Reply to: pjd

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

Shakal told us a few details he heard before(354HP?, 3.0? yes). But I can't believe they plan on waiting till 2011 ! !

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Jan 19, 2010 1:06:15 AM

pjd: Senior; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 752, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: janus

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

janus:

Shakal told us a few details he heard before(354HP?, 3.0? yes). But I can't believe they plan on waiting till 2011 ! !

I hope it`s true!!! That engine in a 5 series or a X5 would be perfect... for me...

But i also can`t see why wait for 2011... what`s the strategy?.... I only predict a progressive release for the 5 series: 530d this year, 535d fall 2010 (?) and maybe a 540d (??) in 2011??... then after 5 series it will be on other models... (??). Just assuming the same that appended with the firts 3.0 liter bi-turbo diesel. It was launch firts with the 535d (in 2005) after been tested in the rally dakar (on that year)...

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Jan 19, 2010 8:08:16 AM

Shakal: Expert; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 1374, Gallery; Registered on: May 30, 2006; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

RC:

5, 7 and X5/X6 I guess.

and new 6 series.

About X6 LCI... it is at least 1 year too early..

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Jan 19, 2010 8:10:13 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 57796, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Shakal

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

Not sure I understand: does this mean that the X6 gets only the new engines and the new 8-speed auto tranny but not the new backlights/improved angel eyes ?

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Jan 19, 2010 8:41:29 AM

Shakal: Expert; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 1374, Gallery; Registered on: May 30, 2006; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

RC:

Not sure I understand: does this mean that the X6 gets only the new engines and the new 8-speed auto tranny but not the new backlights/improved angel eyes ?

Yes, it will get only new engines and auto tranny. This is not uncomon, fo rexample 7 series already recieved new engine in line up. X6 will get LCI next year. Next LCI will be X5.

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Jan 20, 2010 12:17:28 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 57796, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Shakal

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

Latest rumor: it seems that the X5 M and the X6 M get the new 8-speed auto tranny too.

BUT: apparently, performance is the same, only fuel consumption seems to be lower.

I don't have the performance figures for the X5 M and X6 M with 8-speed auto tranny but the X6 50i does 0-100 kph in 5.4 seconds with the 6-speed automatic AND the 8-speed automatic. No difference here. Good news for us who ordered the pre-LCI.

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Jan 21, 2010 2:02:38 AM

ARMD009: Pilot; Loc: FL, united states; Posts: 358, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 12, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

so the new X5 D get 306 hp vs 260hp ? and better MPG ? better electronics as well ?

If I order a new X5D now, will I get the facelift model in 8 weeks in the US ?

thanks

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Jan 21, 2010 7:37:50 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 57796, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: ARMD009

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

The X5 LCI hasn't been officially announced yet as far as I know but rumors indicate a production start April 1st 2010 and no, this is no april's fool joke.

It is still unknown if the US version of the X5 gets the new Diesel engines with the start of the LCI (facelift). 100% sure seems to be only the 50i model with the well known 4.4 l twin turbo V8 engine from the X6 50i.

If you order a X5 Diesel now, it is very likely you're getting one of the "old" Diesel engines.

The german dealers get an order software update with the new models next week or so but like I said before, only the new X6 Diesel engines have been confirmed for Germany, nothing for the X5 yet.

Just wait, in a couple of weeks we will know more.

Yes, the new 35d (actually 40d ?) gets over 300 HP and apparently better MPG too. Some other minor improvements and new options will be available too.

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Jan 21, 2010 11:50:47 AM

ARMD009: Pilot; Loc: FL, united states; Posts: 358, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 12, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

thank you Smiley

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Jan 21, 2010 2:41:51 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 57796, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: ARMD009

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

Some additional information regarding the updated X6 (very likely valid for the X5 too):

1. Servotronic & 8-speed auto tranny are standard

2. price tag of the 40d is only 800 EUR (incl. 19% german VAT) higher than on "old" 35d

3. distance radar system costs 1580 EUR (incl. 19% german VAT)

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Jan 23, 2010 11:06:25 PM

ARMD009: Pilot; Loc: FL, united states; Posts: 358, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 12, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

RC,

do you think the X5 facelift will be on display at Geneva ?

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Jan 24, 2010 11:48:48 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 57796, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: ARMD009

Re: BMW X6 LCI (facelift) is official now

ARMD009:

RC,

do you think the X5 facelift will be on display at Geneva ?

I don't have a clue but I suppose so. BMW wouldn't miss such an opportunity to advertise their "new" X5, especially since one competitor, Porsche, will present a completely new Cayenne in Geneva.

It may also be the place where BMW announces the 600 HP performance kit for the X5/X6M but surprisingly, my BMW source can't confirm that such a performance kit will be offered, just the already known 50i performance kit, now for the X5 50i (new) too.

Another update on the 8-speed automatic transmission used for the X6/X5: apparently there will be only two advantages over the current 6-speed automatic transmission. One is a lower fuel consumption (up to 11% lower) and the other one is lower noise at the same speeds (due to the additional 2 gears and lower rpm at same speeds). The shifting speed of the 8-speed and 6-speed auto tranny are the same, there is no improvement.

Reminder: even the 6-speed auto tranny from BMW is one of the fastest on the market, the improved version for the X5/X6M has the same shifting speed as BMW's own DCT. It is built by german manufacturer ZF.

The new Cayenne is using a new Aisin 8-speed transmission, I just hope that Porsche and the Japanese improved this baby because the 6-speed Tiptronic was a pain in the a.. regarding shifting speed and reaction.

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