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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    bluelines:
    Spyderidol:
    KresoF1:

    Well... This is my very personal opinion. I am not against off topic posts but, this is way too much IMHO.

    This is thread about 991.2 and future Porsche models. NOT about Tesla and Suburban or some other piece of crap. You guys fucked up this thread big time. What's next? Discussion about hybrid tech in city public transportation?

    You could start new thread about electric/hybrid tech and discuss it there till end of time...

    Seems to be common trait around here. I had a couple of guys go bananas over cameras ans camera lenses in a 24h Le Mans thread. Go figure!Smiley

    Smiley Smiley

    Keep a thread pure and then it won't transmute into a grand discussion about everything and anything.  


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    CGX car nut:
     

    Keep a thread pure and then it won't transmute into a grand discussion about everything and anything.  

    I think the word you want is 'transmogrify'.


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    CGX car nut:
    bluelines:
    Spyderidol:
    KresoF1:

    Well... This is my very personal opinion. I am not against off topic posts but, this is way too much IMHO.

    This is thread about 991.2 and future Porsche models. NOT about Tesla and Suburban or some other piece of crap. You guys fucked up this thread big time. What's next? Discussion about hybrid tech in city public transportation?

    You could start new thread about electric/hybrid tech and discuss it there till end of time...

    Seems to be common trait around here. I had a couple of guys go bananas over cameras ans camera lenses in a 24h Le Mans thread. Go figure!Smiley

    Smiley Smiley

    Keep a thread pure and then it won't transmute into a grand discussion about everything and anything.  

    There ya go. Off topic again. This thread is supposed to be about future models.  

    smiley
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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Can we have a thread about keeping thread pure? Kind of a meta-thread? 

    Remember, creativity often comes from going off on tangents.

     


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    apias:
    CGX car nut:
     

    Keep a thread pure and then it won't transmute into a grand discussion about everything and anything.  

    I think the word you want is 'transmogrify'

     Transmute, as change form or alter, is correct.  


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    CGX car nut:
    apias:
    CGX car nut:
     

    Keep a thread pure and then it won't transmute into a grand discussion about everything and anything.  

    I think the word you want is 'transmogrify'

     Transmute, as change form or alter, is correct.  

    Transmogrify: transform, especially in a surprising or magical manner. 


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    apias:
    CGX car nut:
    apias:
    CGX car nut:
     

    Keep a thread pure and then it won't transmute into a grand discussion about everything and anything.  

    I think the word you want is 'transmogrify'

     Transmute, as change form or alter, is correct.  

    Transmogrify: transform, especially in a surprising or magical manner. 

    Nothing magical here; let's return to the topic. 


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    CGX car nut:
    apias:
    CGX car nut:
    apias:
    CGX car nut:
     

    Keep a thread pure and then it won't transmute into a grand discussion about everything and anything.  

    I think the word you want is 'transmogrify'

     Transmute, as change form or alter, is correct.  

    Transmogrify: transform, especially in a surprising or magical manner. 

    Nothing magical here; let's return to the topic. 

    Well, I for one would never have expected that we'd be debating whether 'transmute' or 'transmogrify' more aptly describes what happened, so, in that regard, it's certainly surprising.


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Seriously, guys? enlightened I am an off-topic guy myself but this is too much now. 

    Back to topic please, otherwise I need to close this thread and open a new one.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    RC:

    Seriously, guys? enlightened I am an off-topic guy myself but this is too much now. 

    Back to topic please, otherwise I need to close this thread and open a new one.

    I wouldn't say close it, I would just say to delete all of the O/T stuff.  Also, I have to apologize for somewhat starting the slide.Smiley


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    RC, Any additional information on the 991 GT variant?


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    2014 Porsche 991 C4S Black with Sports Design Package,  2013 Porsche Cayenne Dark Blue Metallic, 2015 Porsche MACAN S (May 2014 Delivery) New York


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Does anybody have the timeline for the new 991.2 and 992 model range?  And for that matter what about 981.2 and 982?

    The press seem to be suggesting both 991 and Cayman/Boxster facelifts are both due out later this year? That cant be right can it - surely Porsche wouldn't facelift all their sports car models in the same year? yes


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Adam2S:

    Does anybody have the timeline for the new 991.2 and 992 model range?  And for that matter what about 981.2 and 982?

    The press seem to be suggesting both 991 and Cayman/Boxster facelifts are both due out later this year? That cant be right can it - surely Porsche wouldn't facelift all their sports car models in the same year? yes

    The facelift for the 997 and 987 were both for Model Year 2009, but 997 came a few months earlier.  Probably gonna be similar this time - 991.2 shown in the Fall 2015 (Frankfurt Sept. 17) and 981.2 shown early 2016 (987.2 was Feb 21, 2009).


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550

     


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    bobr:

    RC, Any additional information on the 991 GT variant?

    No, unfortunately not. The rumor seems to have spread to various (internet/press) publications but everyone seems to fantasize in a different way about it. Smiley

    Truth is: Right now, Porsche has to downsize engines and they seem to keep the n/a engine range limited to the low production (vs. Carrera models) number GT3 RS. There is room for a special edition n/a Carrera RS model but I doubt this car would be cheaper than the GT3 RS, on the contrary.

    Time will tell but I think Porsche has a good run right now with the GT3 RS and the GT4 and this may take a while...


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Since this videos has been lost in data loss...

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC_OoKPy0kk

     

     


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Grant:
    Adam2S:

    Does anybody have the timeline for the new 991.2 and 992 model range?  And for that matter what about 981.2 and 982?

    The press seem to be suggesting both 991 and Cayman/Boxster facelifts are both due out later this year? That cant be right can it - surely Porsche wouldn't facelift all their sports car models in the same year? yes

    The facelift for the 997 and 987 were both for Model Year 2009, but 997 came a few months earlier.  Probably gonna be similar this time - 991.2 shown in the Fall 2015 (Frankfurt Sept. 17) and 981.2 shown early 2016 (987.2 was Feb 21, 2009).


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550

     

    Yes, the Boxster/Cayman updated twins probably will debut at the North American Auto Show, or even at Los Angeles.


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Regarding future GT models (eg GT2 ect), the evolving regulations in terms of the GTE class may have some bearing on that, as turbo-charged engines will probably dominate going forward, starting in 2016.

    It remains to be seen if the combination of N/A and hybrid tech ( a la LMP1) makes it into the next gen 911 and/or it GT variants, or maybe some sort of 960 model. 


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    To be blunt, I'm not so sure what I want to see first from Porsche: A nice and roomy "Panamera" Coupe (well, you get my point what I mean, some sort of 928 successor) a la BMW 6 series or Mercedes S Coupe or a "960"? Tough one.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    RC:

    To be blunt, I'm not so sure what I want to see first from Porsche: A nice and roomy "Panamera" Coupe (well, you get my point what I mean, some sort of 928 successor) a la BMW 6 series or Mercedes S Coupe or a "960"? Tough one.

    A 960 please.


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    928 successor is more attractive from a corporate point of view. Platform is already there and market is already there.

    960 will be great news for us enthusiasts but the market is not big enough yet. Nor will it be cheap to develop. They need a new engine and new or modify the Huracan platform.


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    CGX car nut:
    RC:

    To be blunt, I'm not so sure what I want to see first from Porsche: A nice and roomy "Panamera" Coupe (well, you get my point what I mean, some sort of 928 successor) a la BMW 6 series or Mercedes S Coupe or a "960"? Tough one.

    A 960 please.

    Yeah, a 960 could be a really exciting offering if done right.  I imagine there will be several versions with AWD, RWD, NA, Turbos, Hybrid, etc.

    I just hope one of those versions is a lightweight RWD motorsport type product with NA Flat-8 that revs to at least 9k rpm, has a manual gearbox option, and hydraulic steering (pump driven by electric motor like all the 911 factory race cars of recent decades).  I would sell the house for that Smiley


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550

     


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Whoopsy:

    928 successor is more attractive from a corporate point of view. Platform is already there and market is already there.

    960 will be great news for us enthusiasts but the market is not big enough yet. Nor will it be cheap to develop. They need a new engine and new or modify the Huracan platform.

    Not sure a sizable market exists for a 928 successor even if it is more attractive from corporates point of view.  


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    I think the next generation Panamera platform will support potential brand extension - Panamera Coupe. 


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    2014 Porsche 991 C4S Black with Sports Design Package,  2013 Porsche Cayenne Dark Blue Metallic, 2015 Porsche MACAN S (May 2014 Delivery) New York


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Makes sense...


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    bobr:

    I think the next generation Panamera platform will support potential brand extension - Panamera Coupe. 

    Yes and the Porsche developed MSB platform should be the foundation of the next generation of Bentleys.  However, the great looking Bentley concept car is on Audi's MLB architecture. 


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    CGX car nut:
    Whoopsy:

    928 successor is more attractive from a corporate point of view. Platform is already there and market is already there.

     

    Not sure a sizable market exists for a 928 successor even if it is more attractive from corporates point of view.  

    I agree ....MBZ S-class coupes and BMW 6 series coupes are a very rare bird in my upscale environs and from purely a thought experiment standpoint, if Tesla were to build a sleek Tesla S coupe on their same sedan chassis, it would outsell these 2- door  offerings from MBZ, BMW ( and Porsche )  500 to 1 around here in Silicon Valley Smiley


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Mercedes should use Telsa technology to build cars and SUVs...


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    Interesting how Silicon Valley is different to the North East. I see lots of BMW 6-series, MB CLS and now MB S-coupe everyday in my neighborhood...


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    SciFrog:

    Mercedes should use Telsa technology to build cars and SUVs...

    They already have the B class electric loaded with Tesla technology. Smiley


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Drove Tesla lately again and it is by far the worst car in drive dynamics that I drove in last 20 years or so. Total POC.


     
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