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    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    Thanks RC and Easy_Rider - i struggled sitting in my office today as opposed to running out to drive some more.  I am so excited by the car, it is hard to contain it. 

    I will treat it special.  i am city folk so i don't need a daily driver, just something special for those days i get to drive and go to the track.  

    RC - I agree, i hope in years to come when my children come to age, I can show this as a way cars used be much as the previous generation shows off their dream cars of yesterday

     


    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    easy_rider911:


    Sometimes I wish I had got one. Maybe I should consider a used one? I'm sure they are hardly depreciating in the UK and demand is high.

    But this is a great toy ... right now my wife wants to replace our kitchen and all major appliances ... I guess my attention is there right now angry

    There's one for sale where we purchased our 997S.....the kitchen can wait! But I will leave it to you to tell Mrs Easy. Smiley  Smiley  Smiley Smiley

    http://www.dicklovett.co.uk/Dealers/Porsche/Used-Car-Details/Porsche-911_GT3_RS_%28997%29-Carrara_White-2011-18153293.html

     


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    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    £190k! That's £20-30k more than it cost brand new ... I would love one but not at that price ...


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    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    easy_rider911:

    £190k! That's £20-30k more than it cost brand new ... I would love one but not at that price ...

    That is inclusive of my commission of course! Smiley


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    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    that's Chris Harris' 4.0 at Dick Lovett


    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    Why would he sell it? I thought he loved it and was putting it away for hibernation? I like him and I enjoy hearing his opinion but he does strike me as someone who is constantly ducking and diving ... Some might call this opportunist ... Others might call it a man without a plan ...


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    997.1 C2S
     GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen pickup, BMW Z4 2.5i Roadster Sterling Grey/Red


    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    easy_rider911:

    £190k! That's £20-30k more than it cost brand new ... I would love one but not at that price ...

    I agree - for that money I'd have a Ferrari 458 Italia 


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    Porsche 997 Carrera S PDK Aqua Blue / Black - Toyota Yaris D4D  "Clockwork Rat"


    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    easy_rider911:

    £190k! That's £20-30k more than it cost brand new ... I would love one but not at that price ...

    I'm afraid all of the 4.0's in the UK are carrying a premium over new, no?


    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    Porker:
    easy_rider911:

    £190k! That's £20-30k more than it cost brand new ... I would love one but not at that price ...

    I'm afraid all of the 4.0's in the UK are carrying a premium over new, no?

    ...seems to be the about market in the UK...

    2011 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0

    Right Hand Drive: One of only 28 UK Supplied Cars
     
     
    Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0: The Biggest 911 Engine Ever Offered
     
    The 911 GT3 RS one of Porsche's most popular coveted and successful track-inspired production cars ever has been given a final thrilling injection of thoroughbred motorsport technology resulting in the ultimate road car variant being the 911 GT3 RS 4.0 limited to only 600 vehicles worldwide; the 911 GT3 RS 4.0 brings together in a sports car the attributes that have made the Porsche 911 GT3 a consistent winner on the race track.
     
    The motorsport-derived 4.0-liter engine, already the highest displacement 911 engine ever, also features the highest per-litre output -- 125 horsepower (hp) per litre  from a naturally aspirated Porsche flat-six engine. The engine uses forged pistons, the connecting rods are fashioned from titanium, and the crankshaft has been lifted unchanged from the 911 GT3 RSR race cars. It achieves its maximum power of 500 Bhp at 8,250 rpm. Maximum torque of 339 ft/lbs is reached at 5,750 rpm
     
    Our car is one of only 28 UK supplied cars...
     
    A unique opportunity to acquire one of Porsche’s highly collectable contemporary road cars ever built.
    £189,995.00 
     
     
     
     

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    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    dreamcar:
    easy_rider911:

    £190k! That's £20-30k more than it cost brand new ... I would love one but not at that price ...

    I agree - for that money I'd have a Ferrari 458 Italia 

    I don't know. the RS 4.0 is much more special than a F458 Italia in my opinion. The F458 Italia is actually a mass production car...by Ferrari standards. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4


    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    easy_rider911:

    Why would he sell it? I thought he loved it and was putting it away for hibernation? I like him and I enjoy hearing his opinion but he does strike me as someone who is constantly ducking and diving ... Some might call this opportunist ... Others might call it a man without a plan ...

    apparently he can't afford it


    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    RC:
    dreamcar:
    easy_rider911:

    £190k! That's £20-30k more than it cost brand new ... I would love one but not at that price ...

    I agree - for that money I'd have a Ferrari 458 Italia 

    I don't know. the RS 4.0 is much more special than a F458 Italia in my opinion. The F458 Italia is actually a mass production car...by Ferrari standards. Smiley

    I'd love to be in a financial position to seriously have to choose though blush


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    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    sfo:
    easy_rider911:

    Why would he sell it? I thought he loved it and was putting it away for hibernation? I like him and I enjoy hearing his opinion but he does strike me as someone who is constantly ducking and diving ... Some might call this opportunist ... Others might call it a man without a plan ...

    apparently he can't afford it

    Parting with something you have had and love is so much worse than never having it in the first place. It's a pity when people overextend themselves. Maybe he just thought he would enjoy it for 1 year then sell for a profit ...


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     GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen pickup, BMW Z4 2.5i Roadster Sterling Grey/Red


    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 at 320 km/h...

    Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 at 320 km/h -- Video Link

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    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    easy_rider911:
     

    Parting with something you have had and love is so much worse than never having it in the first place. It's a pity when people overextend themselves. Maybe he just thought he would enjoy it for 1 year then sell for a profit ...

    I disagree.  Having the experience of driving the thing as it was meant to be driven is where the value lies.  Ownership of material things is not as important to me (and maybe to Chris).


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    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 -- Fastest lap at Laguna Seca 1:33.1...

    Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 -- Fastest lap at Laguna Seca 1:33.1 -- Video Link

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    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 vs Ferrari 458 Italia (2012) on track by Sport Auto...

    The lap times on track at Sachsenring circuit:

    1. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 = 1:33.8 min
    2. Ferrari 458 Italia (2012) = 1:34.3 min
       

    Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 vs Ferrari 458 Italia (2012) on track by Sport Auto -- Article Link

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    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    Ferrari claims more downforce than Porsche with their GT3 4.0 but reality is different)))


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    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    not so bad for the fezza blush


    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    kudryavchik:

    Ferrari claims more downforce than Porsche with their GT3 4.0 but reality is different)))

     

    As in? Cornering speed?

    GT3RS is race/track car disguises as a road car, suspension geometry are optimized for highest mechanical grip, and don't forget it also has wider tires.

    458 is a street car through and through that pretends to be able to play on a race track and it does with a level of success. it's suspension tuning probably has less mechanical grip because of street bias, but with the help of higher downforce it 'almost' matches the 'race car'. The numbers are extremely respectable. 


    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    Last Summer, I was instructing at a Mid-Ohio track driver education event where a 458 was running around.  I was driving my GT3 RS 4.0 at the same time and (+/- driving talent) the 458 was not faster than my 4.0.   Not at all.


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    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    Whoopsy:
     

    458 is a street car through and through that pretends to be able to play on a race track and it does with a level of success. it's suspension tuning probably has less mechanical grip because of street bias, but with the help of higher downforce it 'almost' matches the 'race car'. The numbers are extremely respectable. 

    The funny thing is: based on my gut feeling the GT3RS 4.0 is probably the better daily driver than the 458. Ferrari sells it as a "road car", I agree. But where are the actual advantages in daily usage over a GT3RS? Sure, steep ramps are easier to take with the 458. But then... Suspension comfort, noise levels - all not bad in the RS. Plus: the GT3RS is a much better built car, more reliable as a daily driver, lower service costs...


    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    I am amazed that a MANUAL car - where you clearly loose 0.3 seconds or more PER shift - can achieve such a time against a 458. It will be very interesting with PDK....


    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    I've driven both cars and I own a 4.0, difficult to compare them. To be honest, as much as I love Porsche, the 458 nails it for street use, it's more comfortable and the DSG trumps the rather firm and notchy manual box for the 4.0.

    On the track it comes as no suprise that the 911 is not only more efficient but also more fun and more race car like to drive as the two of them, it is after all a trackday car adapted to the road, the 458 is a road car that does very well on the track.

    They actually complement eachother rather well.

     


    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    BjoernB:

    I am amazed that a MANUAL car - where you clearly loose 0.3 seconds or more PER shift - can achieve such a time against a 458. It will be very interesting with PDK....

    me too...looks like an awesome day with an awesome result...


    Re: GT3 RS 4.0

    BjoernB:

    I am amazed that a MANUAL car - where you clearly loose 0.3 seconds or more PER shift - can achieve such a time against a 458. It will be very interesting with PDK....

    Where did you get the 0.3 sec?  I think that is way over-stated.  Even if it takes someone 0.3 seconds to upshift, the car doesn't come to a dead stop during that time (it just isn't accelerating).  I think the difference is WAY smaller...

    On downshifting, there should be no difference with a good driver (since shifting and rev-matching is done during braking).


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