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    Panamera S Hybrid - official data available

    The Panamera S Hybrid marks the beginning of a new chapter of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, Stuttgart’s Porsche Intelligent Performance, continuing the success story of its four door Gran Turismo. Without sacrificing sportiness and elegance, the new Gran Turismo combines the total power output of 380 hp (279 kW) with best case consumption of only 6.8 l/100 km (41.54 mpg imp.) of fuel based on the NEDC. That equates to CO2 emissions of just 159 g/km. That doesn't just make the Panamera S Hybrid the most economical Porsche of all time, it also puts it streets ahead of all the full hybrid production vehicles in its class, the luxury class, when it comes to fuel consumption and CO2 emissions. It achieves these values thanks to Michelin’s even lower rolling resistance all season tyres developed specially for the Panamera and available as an option. But even with the standard tyres, the new Porsche hybrid model’s fuel consumption is at an unprecedentedly low level in this class at 7.1 l/100 km (39.79 mpg imp.) based on the NEDC – which equates to 167 g/km CO2.

    The Panamera S Hybrid sets new standards, both in terms of classic performance and when measured against hybrid vehicle characteristics. The Panamera S Hybrid accelerates from a standing start to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 6.0 seconds, reaching top speed at 270 km/h (168 mph). The range in purely electric mode is approximately two kilometres (1.24 miles) with electric driving possible up to 85 km/h (53 mph), depending on the driving situation. The Porsche hybrid drive is also the only system in the world able to exploit additional consumption reserves thanks to so-called "sailing" on motorways and main roads. This entails disengaging and switching off the combustion engine at speeds of up to 165 km/h (103 mph) (Cayenne S Hybrid: 156 km/h (97 mph) during phases when no power is being delivered by the combustion engine.

    The Panamera S Hybrid is driven by the same engine combination that has already proved itself in the Cayenne S Hybrid: The main propulsion is provided by a three litre V6 compressor engine delivering 333 hp (245 kW) supported by a 47 hp (34 kW) electric motor. Both machines are capable of powering the Panamera S Hybrid either alone or in combination. The electric motor also operates both as a generator and a starter. Together with the decoupler it forms the compact hybrid module located between the combustion engine and the transmission. The electric motor is connected to a nickel metal hydride battery (NiMh) where the electrical energy recovered from braking and driving is stored. Power transmission is handled by the familiar eight-speed Tiptronic S fitted as standard in the Cayenne models with a wide spread of ratios.

    The range of standard equipment for the Panamera S Hybrid is even wider than that of the already extensive standard equipment of the Panamera S with eight-cylinder engine. For example, the hybrid model is fitted as standard with the adaptive air suspension including the adaptive shock-absorber system with PASM, with Servotronic and a rear wiper. The new Gran Turismo also features the Cayenne S Hybrid’s innovative display concept that provides the driver with all the relevant information about the vehicle’s specific hybrid driving status.

    With the new hybrid variant, the Panamera model line now comprises six different models. This offering underlines the strategic importance of “Porsche Intelligent Performance“ and creates totally novel highlights in the luxury segment – from sporty to environmentally friendly. This chimes with what customers want, as the major market success is already confirming. Approximately 15 months after sales started, not quite 30,000 vehicles have been delivered. That means the Gran Turismo has seized a 13 percent share of the upper and luxury segment. The new model will further boost the attractiveness of Porsche’s fourth model line in the market.

    The Panamera S Hybrid will come on the market in June 2011 and cost 106,185 Euros in Germany, including VAT and country-specific equipment.

    The Panamera S Hybrid will celebrate its world premiere at the Geneva Motor Show in early March.

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    I guess this is the future way to go. A car with 380 hp and this consumption sounds very promising. And the price for the final product is only slightly above that of an standard Panamera S. My concern - why is the car that much slower than an Panamera S - I would have expected an even better acceleration. Second - why do they call this car Panamera S and not Panamera-Hybrid, dont they want to do an 8 Cylinder Hybrid?

    Anyway - glad to hear and sounds interesting!


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    In the case of the Cayenne-Hybrid the whole car is a VW in Porsche clothing. Especially the electrically assisted steering sourced from VW is a dynamic disappointment for a Porsche.

    I hope in the Panamera-Hybrid Porsche did more work to differentiate the car from other VW products.

    At least one Cayenne Hybrid owner I know told me that he doesn't get any better economy compared to a diesel with little gain in performance.


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    Re: Panamera S Hybrid - official data available

    Weight (EU): 2055 kg

    Weight (EU) Panamera S: 1875 kg.

    Any more questions? 

    The modern hybrids are way too heavy and the claimed fuel consumption usually not even close to what you achieve during real life driving.

    A Panamera Diesel would surely be the better deal from any point of view.

    The best (fuel economy/price tag/performance) deal seems to be the Panamera.

    0-100 kph in 6.1 seconds (PDK, Sport Chrono), Vmax 259 kph.

    The Panamera S Hybrid is not something I would consider to be an attractive model. Porsche seems to need the Hybrids for various marketing reasons but don't expect wonders from them because they usually also weight more.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


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    Fully agree with RC. It just doesn't make sense, a basic V6 is a setter alternative... Until the diesel arrives!

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    Lars997:

    I guess this is the future way to go. A car with 380 hp and this consumption sounds very promising. 

     

    There's the rub... with a price premium over a V8 who in his right mind (short of PC peer-pressured) is going to get this instead of a V6?


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    RC....Agree Panamera is better options. My Porsche dealer has given me a Panamera 4 when I have had my cars in for service and I found it's perfomance to be very acceptable.  So I would consider that over the diesel or hybrid.


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    Lars997:

    I guess this is the future way to go. A car with 380 hp and this consumption sounds very promising. And the price for the final product is only slightly above that of an standard Panamera S. My concern - why is the car that much slower than an Panamera S - I would have expected an even better acceleration. Second - why do they call this car Panamera S and not Panamera-Hybrid, dont they want to do an 8 Cylinder Hybrid?

    Anyway - glad to hear and sounds interesting!

     They don't need to do an 8cyl. Hybrid, It wouldn't be as efficient. The reason Porsche chose to call this the "S" Hybrid is because it comes in the "S" trim with the aluminum look door trim, S wheels, S brakes, etc.


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    Porsche is only doing Hydrids because they need the PR IMHO.

    Autocar did a test/review last week of the Cayenne Diesel vs Hybrid. The hybrid used more fuel and was far more costly. Their conclusion was that currently you'd have to be mad to buy the hybrid instead of the diesel. I would imagine the same would apply to the Panamera.


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    Guy:

    Porsche is only doing Hydrids because they need the PR IMHO.

    Autocar did a test/review last week of the Cayenne Diesel vs Hybrid. The hybrid used more fuel and was far more costly. Their conclusion was that currently you'd have to be mad to buy the hybrid instead of the diesel. I would imagine the same would apply to the Panamera.

     

    Very well said. Smiley

     


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    Guy:

    Porsche is only doing Hydrids because they need the PR IMHO.

     

    Absolutely! PAG and all car manufacturers are being terrorized by hard-fisted government intervention. The masses drink the government 'Kool-Aid' and take it on the chin.


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    ADias:
    Guy:

    Porsche is only doing Hydrids because they need the PR IMHO.

     

    Absolutely! PAG and all car manufacturers are being terrorized by hard-fisted government intervention. The masses drink the government 'Kool-Aid' and take it on the chin.

    OTOH this trend motivates R&D and possibly something good will come out of it eventually.


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    True again. Maybe some sort of switch-on hybrid for additional power when you need it.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW


    Re: Panamera S Hybrid - official data available

    ADias:
    Guy:

    Porsche is only doing Hydrids because they need the PR IMHO.

     

    Absolutely! PAG and all car manufacturers are being terrorized by hard-fisted government intervention. The masses drink the government 'Kool-Aid' and take it on the chin.

    Absolutely! And it is frightening to see the amount of people that think government is the solution to whatever problem they choose to be preoccupied with at a particular point in time.


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    RC:

    True again. Maybe some sort of switch-on hybrid for additional power when you need it.

    Isn't this the KERS concept and the Williams system on the GT3-Hybrid?


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     What about a diesel Hybrid???

     

     


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    reginos:
    RC:

    True again. Maybe some sort of switch-on hybrid for additional power when you need it.

    Isn't this the KERS concept and the Williams system on the GT3-Hybrid?

     

    Oh well then... Smiley


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    Interesting; the fact that there's only 16 reactions about the introduction of a "spectacular new model"  migt be an indication of how popular this is going to be... I think that even the Cayman R had more people talking...


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    Joost:

    Interesting; the fact that there's only 16 reactions about the introduction of a "spectacular new model"  migt be an indication of how popular this is going to be... I think that even the Cayman R had more people talking...

     And even they were talking mostly about the misuse of the "R" designation. Smiley


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    The Panamera S hybrid will be spotlighted at the New York Auto show, and I hope to attend the press days there.  I will do my best to get clear answers about some of the questions and doubts raised above--Panamera being better deal than Panamera S hybrid, weight and mileage concerns, etc.  Porsche reps always have well prepared answers so no promises I will get anything new.

    I agree that Porsche is feeling pressure to keep up with "green technology" concerns of government and public, but that's not all bad.  Hybrid technology--with sport performance--is a developing science, and one could view the Panamera S hybrid as a test bed on the way to better products.  And remember, the Panamera Turbo S is also being introduced at the show--a 550  HP rocket that many folks will label as excessive and "out of place" in a world going green.  It is going to be quite interesting to see how Porsche presents the two models from a press standpoint..  My guess is that all will be presented under the rubric of Intelligent Performance...


     
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