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    Re: UPDATES: 2018 Porsche Cayenne

    I don't have a clue. I only heard end of 2017, which would make an official introduction at IAA Frankfurt possible (and it would make sense).


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    Re: UPDATES: 2018 Porsche Cayenne

    Frankfurt 2017 is reserved for GT2RS, no room for new Cayenne.

    Think it might appear in LA Autoshow 2017. Europe is not Cayenne's biggest market anyway.


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    Whoopsy:

    Frankfurt 2017 is reserved for GT2RS, no room for new Cayenne.

    Think it might appear in LA Autoshow 2017. Europe is not Cayenne's biggest market anyway.

    Since the Cayenne is not a sports car and the GT2 RS will be a "niche" model only, I think there is plenty room for it in Frankfurt. The next gen Cayenne is very important for the European market because it is supposed to turn around the antipathy for larger SUVs in Europe (same as Q7).

    Btw.: I see tons of new Volvo XC90 and Audi Q7 lately on Germany roads, pretty interesting.

    Also, a bit off-topic...tons of new Mazda MX-5...and I mean basically at every corner. Amazing.


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    Volvo?  indecision I wonder what shows up first in your garage, a Volvo or a Lambo.

    There are plenty of MX-5 here too. Nice car.


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    No Volvo XC90 for me but why should I lie, the new one looks very nice, especially from the front. The interior is also very nice but the engine choices aren't my thing. Most annoying thing is actually the price tag. More than 100k EUR for a Volvo? They must be nuts.


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    The new Volvo is indeed pretty nice, but it will be decades (if ever) before Volvo gets rid of the soccer mom image.


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    SciFrog:

    The new Volvo is indeed pretty nice, but it will be decades (if ever) before Volvo gets rid of the soccer mom image.

    I guess this image depends on which country you live in / come from. Volvo is the last thing I associate with soccer moms. Porsche Cayenne and Range Rover are the transports of choice for soccer moms here in Switzerland. In Sweden it is an entirely different story, where EVERYONE drives Volvos...


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    In the suburbs the Escalade is the soccer mom car and in the city it is the G wagon... You don't see many Volvos anyway.


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    SciFrog:

    In the suburbs the Escalade is the soccer mom car and in the city it is the G wagon... You don't see many Volvos anyway.

    Volvo is more of a "boring people" car over here...the most "bieder" (German word for upright...) brand but with the XC90, I think they nailed it (design-wise). Prices are too high though in my opinion.


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    XC90 is the best looking SUV out there IMO


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    Well the RR Evoque and the Macan are the best looking IMHO, but they are not full size.


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    SciFrog:

    Well the RR Evoque and the Macan are the best looking IMHO, but they are not full size.

    I'm not a fan of the Evoque but I like the bigger Range Rover and Range Rover Sport models.

    The Macan is a beautiful small SUV but I wish it would have a V8 engine and a tiny bit more space in the trunk.

    The n/a V8 from the 958.1 Cayenne GTS would have been perfect, 420 hp from a fantastic sounding n/a engine. Not sure however the engine fits... (probably not).


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    The Evoque is one of the ugliest cars ever built IMHO.


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    Lars997:
    J.Seven:
    crayphile:
    Whoopsy:

    Panamera comes first, then the new Cayenne.

    Bodyshop at Leipzig for Panamera is ready.

    Are you still getting the Turbo S? Mine is delayed but I hope to have it in two weeks or less.

    crayphile why did you bought a Panamera Turbo S when the new Panamera is coming soon?

    Hey J.Seven - how is your new hybrid? Can you share some experience?

    I´ve been out of Portugal for weeks and will come back in few days, didn´t had the chance to drive it since I bought it. As soon as I get my hands on it I´ll post a short report Smiley


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    RC:
    SciFrog:

    In the suburbs the Escalade is the soccer mom car and in the city it is the G wagon... You don't see many Volvos anyway.

    Volvo is more of a "boring people" car over here...the most "bieder" (German word for upright...) brand but with the XC90, I think they nailed it (design-wise). Prices are too high though in my opinion.

    Volvo is the car for architects, dentists, lawyers and teachers. Matter in fact, all those are the people I would never go into business with. SmileySmiley. And yes.... boring people cars.


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    J.Seven:
    Lars997:
    J.Seven:
    crayphile:
    Whoopsy:

    Panamera comes first, then the new Cayenne.

    Bodyshop at Leipzig for Panamera is ready.

    Are you still getting the Turbo S? Mine is delayed but I hope to have it in two weeks or less.

    crayphile why did you bought a Panamera Turbo S when the new Panamera is coming soon?

    Hey J.Seven - how is your new hybrid? Can you share some experience?

    I´ve been out of Portugal for weeks and will come back in few days, didn´t had the chance to drive it since I bought it. As soon as I get my hands on it I´ll post a short report Smiley

    looking forward to Smiley


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    SciFrog:

    The new Volvo is indeed pretty nice, but it will be decades (if ever) before Volvo gets rid of the soccer mom image.

    It will be decades before Porsche gets rid of the soccer mom image with its two soccer mom suvs, and the panemeraSmiley


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    watt:
    SciFrog:

    The new Volvo is indeed pretty nice, but it will be decades (if ever) before Volvo gets rid of the soccer mom image.

    It will be decades before Porsche gets rid of the soccer mom image with its two soccer mom suvs, and the panemeraSmiley

    Don't you have one of those "soccer mom" SUVs? Smiley

    rulesdontapply


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    Re: UPDATES: 2018 Porsche Cayenne

    rulesdontapply:
    watt:
    SciFrog:

    The new Volvo is indeed pretty nice, but it will be decades (if ever) before Volvo gets rid of the soccer mom image.

    It will be decades before Porsche gets rid of the soccer mom image with its two soccer mom suvs, and the panemeraSmiley

    Don't you have one of those "soccer mom" SUVs? Smiley

    rulesdontapply

    You must have missed  Suns comments, perhap go read his thread  After breaking it in very mild 4wd situation, went to jeep wrangler, and ordering SVR.  Both Cayenne and MT are complete BS mommy carsSmiley

    a Porsche with low range would be nice.


    Re: UPDATES: 2018 Porsche Cayenne

    Some new interior shots of the upcoming Cayenne. interesting to see the new tech and some more of the new center console with touch buttons. Looking forward to see more details about all this new tech when the Panamera is revealed.


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    Love the red button! kiss Ejector seat?  indecision


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    bluelines:

    Love the red button! kiss Ejector seat?  indecision

    For the children in the back or the wife in the front SmileySmiley


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    Interesting to see the real interior in the new PCM screen.


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    The dashboard on the PCM screen is not the same as what you see in real around it. Doesn't the writing on the "virtual dashboard" even say Panamera?


    Re: UPDATES: 2018 Porsche Cayenne

    Looks nice but they needed to loose the gear shift 10 years ago. Now it looks even more ridiculous than before and totally out of place in any car.


    Re: UPDATES: 2018 Porsche Cayenne

    Looks v complicated to me. So much for making it simple....


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    Porsche did a great job with the 918 from an infotainment perspective and this looks like a big fail in comparison.  Oh dear.....


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    Ah the one 918 tech that I don't want to appear on the rest of the car line.......useless touch buttons, one cannot used them without taking the eyes off the road.

    Big fail from a usability point of view, but they do look nice statically. 


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    I like it a lot ! kiss


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    btw the picture on the display shows the new panamera dash... 


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