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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    The 12C is notorious for having software issues.


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Grant:
    noone1:

    Such is McLaren ownership. They really don't have that many dealers in the US and quite a lot of people have some decent distance between them and the dealer.

    I'd have to go a long way - nothing in Colorado.  Either Texas or Arizona (maybe 1,300km or so)


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    In Switzerland there are 3 dealers ,  the country is about 300km from one end to the other on the longest part . I would have to drive 70 km to the next dealer and I thought that was way too far Smiley


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Gnil:
    Grant:
    noone1:

    Such is McLaren ownership. They really don't have that many dealers in the US and quite a lot of people have some decent distance between them and the dealer.

    I'd have to go a long way - nothing in Colorado.  Either Texas or Arizona (maybe 1,300km or so)


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    In Switzerland there are 3 dealers ,  the country is about 300km from one end to the other on the longest part . I would have to drive 70 km to the next dealer and I thought that was way too far Smiley

     

    Wow. Only 3 ?!


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Gnil:
    Grant:
    noone1:

    Such is McLaren ownership. They really don't have that many dealers in the US and quite a lot of people have some decent distance between them and the dealer.

    I'd have to go a long way - nothing in Colorado.  Either Texas or Arizona (maybe 1,300km or so)


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

     

    In Switzerland there are 3 dealers ,  the country is about 300km from one end to the other on the longest part . I would have to drive 70 km to the next dealer and I thought that was way too far Smiley

    When the dealer in Munich opened, they had exactly one mechanic and one service employee. Smiley Not even sure there are more people working there right now... Smiley

    The idea of having to drive to Munich for every single issue kind of horrifies me, even if it would be a 30-45 min. drive only (depending on traffic). One major reason I always think about selling my Shelby is the distance to the next (capable Smiley) mechanic. Thanks god I found a guy who is very capable and even better, he can do diagnoses over the phone. For everything else, I have an OBD reader and I can send him over the data (error codes, etc.) he needs. Still...if something is really wrong, I would have to drive 200 km. Smiley

    So yes, I prefer dealerships in my neighborhood. It not only saves time but nerves as well.


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Fully agree. 

    Here is Zagreb situation is even worse.

    Mclaren - Munich 600km

    Lamborghini or Bentley - Vienna 400km

    Nissan GT-R - Vienna 400km

    Ferrari - Ljubljana 180km

    So, Porsche, BMW M, Mercedes AMG that are fully represented locally are only and natural choices. Guy that bought here Mclaren MP4-12C sold it after only 6 months because car had some issues and he was not very pleased with Mclaren support. 


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    No way would I buy a car from a brand with the next dealership a couple of hundreds of km away. enlightened 

    Actually, if I knew that the initial dealer I bought my Shelby from sucks that much, I wouldn't have bought it. 

    People only learn to appreciate a good dealership/repair shop when they have issues with their cars. 


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    FWIW - Porsche gave me the right run-around until they were threatened by the motorcodes ombudsman. Only then did they replace the car.

    Sometimes third party intervention is the only way.


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    bridggar:

    FWIW - Porsche gave me the right run-around until they were threatened by the motorcodes ombudsman. Only then did they replace the car.

    Sometimes third party intervention is the only way.

    True and one reason I won't buy a grey market car anymore which isn't officially available in my country.

    I talked to Ford about this and they said they do not care since the car is not officially available in Germany. Simple (for them). Smiley


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

     McLaren 675LT vs Nissan GT-R Nismo (Source: GCF)

    Acceleration:

    0-100: 3,4 / 3,1
    0-120: 4,2 / 4,1
    0-140: 5,0 / 5,2
    0-160: 6,0 / 6,6
    0-180: 7,1 / 8,3
    0-200: 8,6 / 10,2

    0-400 m: 10,7 @ 228 km/h | 11,0 @ 206 km/h
    0-1000 m: 19,0 @ 283 km/h | 20,1 @ 260 km/h


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    GTR Nismo will always be a bargin when it comes down to figure performances, nothing beats this 150K car.  

    am surprised of Z07's 400m figure.... thought its a lot faster than that....

    All 4 cars are to its brand supportors, and each to its own taste, also how deep is ur pocket....

    Gt3RS/Nismo/ Z07 seems to be the same price range but 675LT seems double the cost for a little bit better performance.....   like I said.... each to its own taste.....  u want one... don't have it anymore....


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Imagine how fast that GTR would be if it wasn't such a pig...


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Is fast. 10.51@ 135mph

    "Had a great couple of hours at Atco today. Managed a best of 10.275 @ 135.21 on a 1.672 60' time. Backed it up with a 10.422 @ 135.4 on a 1.789 60' footer and a couple of 10.5's and 10.6's."
     

     


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    McLaren F1 with just 2,800 miles up for sale http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1103690_mclaren-f1-with-just-2800-miles-up-for-sale



    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    New car, wet road, cold tires.

    some people just seems too excited about their new car and forgot about their lack of driving abilities.

     


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Whoopsy:

    New car, wet road, cold tires.

    some people just seems too excited about their new car and forgot about their lack of driving abilities.

     

    I think it was new to the owner but not new as such given the 14 number plate.


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Yes, that's what I meant, new to the owner.


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Whoopsy:

    Yes, that's what I meant, new to the owner.

    Smiley Same result though Smiley - this happens really too often 


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    I doubt the bottle of champagne helped.


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    apias:

    I doubt the bottle of champagne helped.

    Aren't you supposed to break it over the ship to christen it?  Smiley


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    4trac:
    apias:

    I doubt the bottle of champagne helped.

    Aren't you supposed to break it over the ship to christen it?  Smiley

     

    Maybe he hang the bottle on the tree and used the car to break it.

     


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Whenever I pick up a new car, even if I know the car already, I drive pretty slow (run-in period, attention to details, enjoying the new car smell, whatever...). I never understood why some people have to go fast right out of the dealership? yes The result, you can see in those photos... angry


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    I took out a McLaren 570S for a test drive this afternoon.. I am impressed! Lovely build quality and the ergonomics, tactility of controls is leagues ahead of Porsche..  The steering was also much more communicative than my GT3's.  Really liked it.. you could easily drive it every day if you wanted - easy access, quiet, refined, but with great feel when you put it in sport mode..

    Only thing that was a little disappointing was the engine noise, somewhat muted - although I didn't get to push it hard (too much traffic around, and stupid low speed limits).  Might be better once you get it wound up a bit.  There was a bit of lag, but certainly goes when that passes.  Drove home with the windows down on the GT3.. sorry, but no turbo motor can compete with that noise indecision

    Off to play with the configurator a bit I think!


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    DaveGordon:

    The steering was also much more communicative than my GT3's.  Really liked it.. you could easily drive it every day if you wanted - easy access, quiet, refined, but with great feel when you put it in sport mode..

    Dave - Have you driven any of the earlier GT3's with hydraulic steering?  Wondering if the 570S steers as well as a 997 GT3 for example?  I think McLaren really did the right thing by using a hydraulic rack with pump driven by an electric motor (best of both worlds).  It would have been so easy for Porsche to do the same in the GT3 and GT4 (still done in the Cup and other 991 race cars).


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    DaveGordon:

    I took out a McLaren 570S for a test drive this afternoon.. I am impressed! Lovely build quality and the ergonomics, tactility of controls is leagues ahead of Porsche...

    Ooh, this sounds interesting Smiley 

    Schmol?


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    DaveGordon:

    I took out a McLaren 570S for a test drive this afternoon.. I am impressed! Lovely build quality and the ergonomics, tactility of controls is leagues ahead of Porsche..  The steering was also much more communicative than my GT3's.  Really liked it.. you could easily drive it every day if you wanted - easy access, quiet, refined, but with great feel when you put it in sport mode..

    Only thing that was a little disappointing was the engine noise, somewhat muted - although I didn't get to push it hard (too much traffic around, and stupid low speed limits).  Might be better once you get it wound up a bit.  There was a bit of lag, but certainly goes when that passes.  Drove home with the windows down on the GT3.. sorry, but no turbo motor can compete with that noise indecision

    Off to play with the configurator a bit I think!

    I would echo your comments on the steering feel  - that is what stood out for me when I drove it. McLaren really seems to have nailed this on the 675LT too. They have come along way in a very short space of time. Iris on the other hand is still a pain.


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    Yep, was at Schmol. They've got a 570 demo car in a lovely metallic red..

    @Grant - yes, I've driven 997.2RS a couple of times. I'd say the 570 steering was better than them, too. Really superb.

    I didn't play with the electronics, but thought they had improved the Iris.. Shame they can't get that sorted - you'd think that would be one of the more straightforward bits to get right. The digital dash is really slick though.


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    DaveGordon:

    @Grant - yes, I've driven 997.2RS a couple of times. I'd say the 570 steering was better than them, too. Really superb.

    That sounds excellent indeed! Smiley


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    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    I hear you can order a P1 GTR that can be driven on the streets with plates ala road legal car no

    http://gtspirit.com/2016/04/29/first-road-legal-mclaren-p1-gtr-arrives-monaco/


    Re: McLaren on a winning streak

    DaveGordon:

    I took out a McLaren 570S for a test drive this afternoon.. I am impressed! Lovely build quality and the ergonomics, tactility of controls is leagues ahead of Porsche..  The steering was also much more communicative than my GT3's.  Really liked it.. you could easily drive it every day if you wanted - easy access, quiet, refined, but with great feel when you put it in sport mode..

    Only thing that was a little disappointing was the engine noise, somewhat muted - although I didn't get to push it hard (too much traffic around, and stupid low speed limits).  Might be better once you get it wound up a bit.  There was a bit of lag, but certainly goes when that passes.  Drove home with the windows down on the GT3.. sorry, but no turbo motor can compete with that noise indecision

    Off to play with the configurator a bit I think!

    I am not surprised. McLaren is taking in the feedback and improves every model that comes out in a big way. 

    One day, I could own a McLaren Smiley


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