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    Jul 2, 2005 12:47:27 AM

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    Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

    After about driving 1500 miles in my new 997, I couldn't take it any more. Called tire rack yesterday, and got shipped overnight a set of the Michelin PS2. The set cost me about 1000 dollars but was wirth every penny. The Michelins were put on today... What a difference........ The car handles wey better, less harsh ride, less tire noise, and is much better with traction in the rain.. All I can say is that the continentals are JUNK and don't belong on this car period.. I feel sorry for anyone who got stuck with these tires on their 997..

    Jul 2, 2005 4:12:27 AM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

    The Contis were the tire that came with your car?

    997 or 997S (ie. 18's or 19's)?

    Jul 2, 2005 4:54:13 AM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

    If you look at the tread pattern of the PS2's you'd swear they were designed specifically for the 997. They're the way to go.

    Jul 2, 2005 5:52:57 AM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

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    If you look at the tread pattern of the PS2's you'd swear they were designed specifically for the 997. They're the way to go.



    But ONLY the N-speced versions, the others "stink" on the 997 and can be even dangerous.

    Jul 2, 2005 6:28:35 AM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

    The Michelin were the tire that came with my car. Belgium.
    Why different tire ?

    Jul 2, 2005 6:32:38 AM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

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    After about driving 1500 miles in my new 997, I couldn't take it any more. Called tire rack yesterday, and got shipped overnight a set of the Michelin PS2. The set cost me about 1000 dollars but was wirth every penny. The Michelins were put on today... What a difference........ The car handles wey better, less harsh ride, less tire noise, and is much better with traction in the rain.. All I can say is that the continentals are JUNK and don't belong on this car period.. I feel sorry for anyone who got stuck with these tires on their 997..



    I did the exactly same thing as you when I got the 996, those were a previous generation of Contisport but looks like things never change...

    Jul 2, 2005 7:03:55 AM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

    Is there something like a "best tire" for the 997? And if so, which is it?

    Jul 2, 2005 7:19:57 AM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

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    Is there something like a "best tire" for the 997? And if so, which is it?



    "Best" tire for what purpose?
    The sportiest one is the Michelin Pilot Sport coming with most 997 with 19'' wheels. I was lucky, my wife's Boxster S came with Michelin Pilot Sport too.
    The 18'' version has a similar capability, the others 18'' tires for the Boxster are more comfort oriented.

    Porsche actually published a list with approved tires and their "purpose".
    Highly interesting. Every official Porsche dealer should have it available, I had that list too but my wife threw it away (like all women, she loves to throw away my stuff...the only thing she doesn't throw away is money...well, not directly... ).

    Jul 2, 2005 7:26:00 AM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

    For me the two most important things in a tire are grip and handling performance, and road noise and confort come dead last. Based on that, personally I love the Michelin PS2's on the 997S, which I believe are specifically made for the 997. The PS2's are what the GT3 and GT2 also come with from factory.

    And based on my 996 experience with Conti's I will never get them again, they are on the confort & durability side, if you preffer that then OK, but if you are looking for the oppposite, grip and handling, they are seriuosly sunstandard in my book, so much so that I had to dump them just like mrcohanian, they were pathetic.

    Jul 2, 2005 9:44:41 AM

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    My 997S has just arrived at my dealer (At last!!!! -20mm makes it look really sporty) and I noticed that it is fitted with Pirelli P-Zeros. Does anyone know how these perform? are they as good as the Michelin PS2's

    Jul 2, 2005 10:05:59 AM

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    I have no experience with the PIrellis myself so can't comment on that, suposedly they are midway between the two others.

    Jul 2, 2005 10:15:39 AM

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    My 997S has just arrived at my dealer (At last!!!! -20mm makes it look really sporty) and I noticed that it is fitted with Pirelli P-Zeros. Does anyone know how these perform? are they as good as the Michelin PS2's



    The difference between the tires isn't really THAT big, don't let yourself get fooled by our claims. The P-Zero (Rosso?) is a good tire for the 997 but Porsche and Michelin did a lot of development work to develop a tire especially for the 997/987. This is why I think that at this moment, the Pilot Sport is the sportiest one available but of course this can change sooner or later.

    Jul 2, 2005 10:15:44 AM

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    Carlos, I will feel disappointed if the P-Zeros do not provide the same grip level as the Michelins. My wife has Michelin Pilot Exaltos on her Clio Cup and they are fantastic tyres

    Jul 2, 2005 10:33:43 AM

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    Thanks RC. To me tyres are more important that HP. I have always tried to put the best possible tyres on my cars. I think they are the one most important factor that can effect a cars performance and saftey. I will probably change to Michelins once the P-Zeros are worn out - Six months time I guess. I can't wait to drive it, it's painful to see your car at the dealer all wrapped up and you just want take it away. I did sit in it though and I must say it was fantastic. I really love the way you can get the seat so much lower than in the 996.

    Jul 2, 2005 11:27:14 AM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

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    and I noticed that it is fitted with Pirelli P-Zeros. Does anyone know how these perform? are they as good as the Michelin PS2's



    Fortunately I live 20 minutes from Tire Rack.
    After a couple hundred miles I made an appointment to have my Pirelli's changed for the Michelin PS2's.
    Night and day difference.
    I also requested that my road force balance be less than 10 on the PS2's. The best they could balance my Pirelli's was 40.

    Jul 2, 2005 11:30:42 AM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

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    Quote:
    ACA said:
    My 997S has just arrived at my dealer (At last!!!! -20mm makes it look really sporty) and I noticed that it is fitted with Pirelli P-Zeros. Does anyone know how these perform? are they as good as the Michelin PS2's



    The difference between the tires isn't really THAT big, don't let yourself get fooled by our claims. The P-Zero (Rosso?) is a good tire for the 997 but Porsche and Michelin did a lot of development work to develop a tire especially for the 997/987. This is why I think that at this moment, the Pilot Sport is the sportiest one available but of course this can change sooner or later.



    I thought the P-Zero Rosso would be the best tire currently available?

    Jul 2, 2005 11:42:46 AM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

    AFAIK performance wise that would be the Micelin Pilot Sport "PS2" currently.

    Jul 2, 2005 11:43:21 AM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

    Why is Porsche sending cars out with different makes of tyres????. If they specifically developed the PS2's with Michelin surely that will be the optimum tyre for a 997. Is it the case that they have a supply problem with the Michelins and the P-Zeros are a substitute or is it just luck of the draw which make gets fitted????????

    Jul 2, 2005 11:55:59 AM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

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    After about driving 1500 miles in my new 997, I couldn't take it any more. Called tire rack yesterday, and got shipped overnight a set of the Michelin PS2. The set cost me about 1000 dollars but was wirth every penny. The Michelins were put on today... What a difference........ The car handles wey better, less harsh ride, less tire noise, and is much better with traction in the rain.. All I can say is that the continentals are JUNK and don't belong on this car period.. I feel sorry for anyone who got stuck with these tires on their 997..



    This post cracks me up. Lets look here, you are comparing a tire with 2001 technology to a tire with 2004/2005 technology. Hummmm, which one is going to feel better...I wonder. The Conti SC2 is a great tire when compared to tires developed in the same time frame such as the Bridgestone S02/S03 and the Michelin Pilot Sport and PS Rib. The reason everyone seems to think the Conti's are bad is because the original Conti Sport Contact (not the 2) was more of a comfort based tire. The SC2 is a totally different tire and is just as good as the tires stated above. Now as RC said the Michelin PS2 was developed between Michelin and Porsche for the 997 and 987 so once again, of course this tire will perform the best on that car at this moment. Don't knock Conti, tire technology is changing quicker than other sectors of the auto industry right now so comparing a 2001 tire to a 2005 tire is like comparing the performance characteristics of the 993 to the 997. When Conti's direct competitor to the PS2 debuts you should not write it off, unless of course your view is blocked by Mr. Bibb aka The Michelin Man and you like paying extrordinary amounts of money for tires that will blow up at 80mph in a corner

    Jul 2, 2005 12:09:52 PM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

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    Why is Porsche sending cars out with different makes of tyres????. If they specifically developed the PS2's with Michelin surely that will be the optimum tyre for a 997. Is it the case that they have a supply problem with the Michelins and the P-Zeros are a substitute or is it just luck of the draw which make gets fitted????????



    They have to "homologise" several brand since each brand/tires has their strong points and not everybody wants the same thing from their tires and they have to satify everyone. The Contis have always been more confortable, longuer lasting, and quieter. Some people preffer this, I hear people complaining of how unbearable noise their tires are while I never pay attention to tire noise at all. Some want absolute handling and grip like myself and in this department you have the PS2's now. Before it was the Bridgeston S02's, etc. Its just like cars, each brand has their philosophy, Contis would be the Mercs in the tire world and the PS2 the Porsches there is no optimun tire, it just depends what you want. As to which gets fitted, its just a matter of luck and its imposible to specify which tires come with your car from factory.

    Jul 2, 2005 12:26:26 PM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

    I've just been to Blackcircle.com an they test and rated the tyres as follows:

    Mich PS2's
    LIFE: 4.5 out of 5
    HANDLING: 4.5 out of 5
    NOISE: 4 out of 5

    P-Zero Rosso
    LIFE: 2.5 out of 5
    HANDLING: 4.5 out of 5
    NOISE: 3.5 out of 5

    Jul 2, 2005 3:09:03 PM

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    Re: Continental ContiSport Contact 2 DUMPED

    Why does Porsche use different tires makes for the 997? Because no one company can provide the tires fast enough. For my E55, there is a severe back order for Michelin PS2's. Its something like 6 months! Michelin probably can't fulfill all the orders.
     
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