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    M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Hi all,

    US site states that Tip is faster than manual.3.7 vs 3.9
    German site does not. 3.9


    What gives ?

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Of course it does, read carefully.

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Actually it doesnt. They must have changed the text as now even US site does not list the difference !

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    German Porsche site lists 3.9 0-100 and 12.8 0-200.

    Nothing else is said.

    This makes it slower than F430

    What a pity !!


    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Just checked, the US site has 0-60 as 3.7 for the manual, and 3.4 tip.

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Quote:
    intouch1 said:
    Actually it doesnt. They must have changed the text as now even US site does not list the difference !


    The U.S. site that I just checked lists 0-60 mph as follows:

    Manual 3.7 sec
    Tiptronic S 3.4 sec

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    http://www.porsche.com/usa/aboutporsche/pressreleases/pag/?pool=international-de&id=2006-02-13

    Acceleration times are without Sport Chrono Turbo

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    60 mph does not equal 100 km/h. 100 km/h is slightly faster.

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    The German site I just checked lists 0-100 km/h times as:

    Manual 3.9 sec
    Tiptronic S 3.7 sec

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Quote:
    intouch1 said:
    German Porsche site lists 3.9 0-100 and 12.8 0-200.

    Nothing else is said.

    This makes it slower than F430

    What a pity !!





    Tiptronic: 0-100 kph in 3.7 seconds and 0-200 kph in 12.2 seconds.

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    So the F430 is 12.7 0-200kph, the new 997 turbo manual is thus slower than the f430...

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Quote:
    RC said:
    Quote:
    intouch1 said:
    German Porsche site lists 3.9 0-100 and 12.8 0-200.

    Nothing else is said.

    This makes it slower than F430

    What a pity !!





    Tiptronic: 0-100 kph in 3.7 seconds and 0-200 kph in 12.2 seconds.



    Do you know what i see RC?!
    Unfortunately Porsche for one more time tries to make ONLY SALES!!
    for this reason wants to prove that EVERYONE who has the money to buy the new 997tt will be able to drive it as a racing driver!

    Porsche doesnt care anymore for us, the "maniac" drivers.
    It made the "flagship" of the brand, a car that even a 60 years lady can drive it REALLY fast.. (and also proves it in the event it is going to give..)
    I dont know how much this car keeps up with my personality though and the way i had Porsche cars into my mind...

    I am afraid that in the near future, porsche cars will be used in early driving schools, to learn people how to drive.

    Correct me if i am wrong but i believe Ferrari is a more aggresive car that the new 997tt..

    and dont tell me please to go and buy the new Gt3 as porsche made this time the car SLOW. not in the track, On the road.

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Posrche needs to come with the PDK as fast as possible, and with times at least as fast as the tip ones. Only way to solve this marketing hole they just dug themselves in big time.

    The F430 is unfortunatly not in the same price league in the US, you can't get one for less than $220,0000 unless you are very connected. Porsche will sell the 977 TT all right in the US.

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    I with you, Aisxos and SciFrog. There's no way I'm spending $150K on an automatic. At the same time, it's a little disconcerting, knowing that the manual version is a "lesser performing" version of the 997TT. Maybe the thing to do is wait until the PDK version comes out.

    This is no longer a slam-dunk decision for me. Thanks, Porsche.

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Just the reason I needed to keep my current car longer...

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Quote:
    SoCal Alan said:
    I with you, Aisxos and SciFrog. There's no way I'm spending $150K on an automatic. At the same time, it's a little disconcerting, knowing that the manual version is a "lesser performing" version of the 997TT. Maybe the thing to do is wait until the PDK version comes out.

    This is no longer a slam-dunk decision for me. Thanks, Porsche.



    That's what I was thinking as well.
    I'm also not enamored with the design changes, especially when you compare it with the 993 TT... however it is tough getting your hands on a F430 without paying the ridiculous mark-up. Wait for the PDK.

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Quote:
    SoCalHoosier said:
    Quote:
    SoCal Alan said:
    I with you, Aisxos and SciFrog. There's no way I'm spending $150K on an automatic. At the same time, it's a little disconcerting, knowing that the manual version is a "lesser performing" version of the 997TT. Maybe the thing to do is wait until the PDK version comes out.

    This is no longer a slam-dunk decision for me. Thanks, Porsche.



    That's what I was thinking as well.
    I'm also not enamored with the design changes, especially when you compare it with the 993 TT... however it is tough getting your hands on a F430 without paying the ridiculous mark-up. Wait for the PDK.



    I sure hope the 3.4 sec Tip vs. the 3.7 manual is a typo.....

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Quote:
    SoCal Alan said:
    I with you, Aisxos and SciFrog. There's no way I'm spending $150K on an automatic. At the same time, it's a little disconcerting, knowing that the manual version is a "lesser performing" version of the 997TT. Maybe the thing to do is wait until the PDK version comes out.

    This is no longer a slam-dunk decision for me. Thanks, Porsche.



    I agree. I will not spend $200k (as we Europeans are expected to pay even higher than US prices) for an auto tranny sports car. And I will also not buy a manual transmission sports car that is slower than the auto tranny version.

    I am really, really disappointed by the bad news regarding the 997TT. This car is nothing special. Too heavy. Too slow. Old technology. Disappointing

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Quote:
    MKSGR said:
    Quote:
    SoCal Alan said:
    I with you, Aisxos and SciFrog. There's no way I'm spending $150K on an automatic. At the same time, it's a little disconcerting, knowing that the manual version is a "lesser performing" version of the 997TT. Maybe the thing to do is wait until the PDK version comes out.

    This is no longer a slam-dunk decision for me. Thanks, Porsche.



    I agree. I will not spend $200k (as we Europeans are expected to pay even higher than US prices) for an auto tranny sports car. And I will also not buy a manual transmission sports car that is slower than the auto tranny version.

    I am really, really disappointed by the bad news regarding the 997TT. This car is nothing special. Too heavy. Too slow. Old technology. Disappointing





    tHen buy a Z06

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Quote:
    MKSGR said:
    I am really, really disappointed by the bad news regarding the 997TT. This car is nothing special. Too heavy. Too slow. Old technology. Disappointing



    Too heavy? I disagree. Too slow? Again, I disagree but it could have been faster. Old technology? Definetely not. Disappointing? Yes, I agree. Sounds weird? Not from my point of view. If I would own a 996 Turbo S, I would probably think the same way you think. Otherwise, yes, there is some disappointment and you're right, the 997 Turbo isn't as special as I wished it to be but I'm still getting one because I don't have any alternative. But of course this shouldn't be the only reason someone gets such a car.

    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    I cant believe that Porsche would design the 997TT to be quicker with a Tiptronic than a manual without a reason.

    The 997TT Tiptronic's only marketing advantage is in its appeal to SL55 or M6 shoppers. Maybe thats what Porsche targeted?

    Maybe they calculated the risk of dissapointing traditional manual gearbox TT buyers and figured it was worth it to grab AMG and BMW M customers.

    Or maybe Porsche executives have been playing Barry Manilow songs at work and lost their minds.

    How else to explain it?








    Re: M/Tip Performance Discrepancy ?

    Why would you buy the 997 TT if your already not happy with it,There are other choices in this price range. I personally am very happy with the looks having just sold my 03 996 TT. If the numbers from Porsche are correct this car is going to get the job done. I think its great the Tip is faster than the Manual and it makes perfect sense, you can't shift as fast as the computer can. Theres a reason the fastest Quarter mile cars are Auto's. My last TT was a Tip and my 997 TT will be also.

     
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