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    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Rossi:
    RC:

    I hate open air festivals. I was at one once and me and my wife didn't know how to escape as soon as possible. So many people, the stinking smells of transpiration and vomit, music quality not really good (open airs tend to be loud but the sound is often horrible) and a couple of times, someone grabbed my wife's butt. Not really pleasant. Also got a kiss from a drunken woman, her breath smelled like shit. Didn't even see that coming, I hate these festivals.


    That sounds like a completely successful afternoon. Smiley

    Smiley


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    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Whoopsy:

    Your family are so not getting into my cars in that state.........................

    SmileySmiley


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Gnil:
    Whoopsy:

    Your family are so not getting into my cars in that state.........................

    And I thought Canadians understand that and are welcoming in any circumstances . I guess you need to get more rooted in Smiley

    We had big plastic bags waiting for us in the trunk !

    And the car I took is our old Van ...... that I gladly never got rid off as it is used for these kind of things 

     

    We do, after we are all lubed up with alcohol. Or after we beat the crap out of you in hockey Smiley

     


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    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Rossi:
    RC:

    I hate open air festivals. I was at one once and me and my wife didn't know how to escape as soon as possible. So many people, the stinking smells of transpiration and vomit, music quality not really good (open airs tend to be loud but the sound is often horrible) and a couple of times, someone grabbed my wife's butt. Not really pleasant. Also got a kiss from a drunken woman, her breath smelled like shit. Didn't even see that coming, I hate these festivals.


    That sounds like a completely successful afternoon. Smiley

    That woman was quite attractive I have to say but her smell...I still have it in my nose...and that shitty taste in my mouth. Smiley Smiley My wife has actually sworn that she will never go to an open air festival again and she never did. 


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    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    RC:
    Rossi:
    RC:

    I hate open air festivals. I was at one once and me and my wife didn't know how to escape as soon as possible. So many people, the stinking smells of transpiration and vomit, music quality not really good (open airs tend to be loud but the sound is often horrible) and a couple of times, someone grabbed my wife's butt. Not really pleasant. Also got a kiss from a drunken woman, her breath smelled like shit. Didn't even see that coming, I hate these festivals.


    That sounds like a completely successful afternoon. Smiley

    That woman was quite attractive I have to say but her smell...I still have it in my nose...and that shitty taste in my mouth. Smiley Smiley My wife has actually sworn that she will never go to an open air festival again and she never did. 

    ...but you are a frequent visitor in disguise? Smiley


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    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    bluelines:
     

    ...but you are a frequent visitor in disguise? Smiley

    SmileySmileySmiley


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Lars997:
    bluelines:
     

    ...but you are a frequent visitor in disguise? Smiley

    SmileySmileySmiley


     


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    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    bluelines:
     

    ...but you are a frequent visitor in disguise? Smiley

    Are you into sweat, shit and vomit smells? I ain't. No matter how beautiful the woman. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Back to topic: I watched a couple of Hellcat videos and while I really like how the car looks, sounds and of course the price tag, I'm not so sure anymore I want this car. There is a video where even a professional driver from Dodge SRT division tried a good 0-60 mph run and the best he got was 4.7 seconds or so. So the time from 0-62 mph would be around 5 seconds. Ridiculously high for a 707 hp (Europe actually 717 hp) car. This car should have AWD I guess but it is already way too heavy. Yes, from 100 to 200 kph, it would probably keep up with my 991 Turbo S, maybe it would even be a bit faster, maybe even in the 200 to 300 kph range (top speed is 199 mph or 318 kph) but if I "beat" the 717 hp Challenger SRT Hellcat from 0-100 kph with my 2.5 ton Jeep SRT and almost 250 hp less, something is very wrong with the Challenger. 

    So right now I am still looking at the Ford Mustang GT 500 Shelby, the Camaro ZL1 or even the new Camaro Z28 (which has a great engine and great handling but straight-line performance is not really good).

    Decisions... 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    RC:

    Back to topic: I watched a couple of Hellcat videos and while I really like how the car looks, sounds and of course the price tag, I'm not so sure anymore I want this car. There is a video where even a professional driver from Dodge SRT division tried a good 0-60 mph run and the best he got was 4.7 seconds or so. So the time from 0-62 mph would be around 5 seconds. Ridiculously high for a 707 hp (Europe actually 717 hp) car. This car should have AWD I guess but it is already way too heavy. Yes, from 100 to 200 kph, it would probably keep up with my 991 Turbo S, maybe it would even be a bit faster, maybe even in the 200 to 300 kph range (top speed is 199 mph or 318 kph) but if I "beat" the 717 hp Challenger SRT Hellcat from 0-100 kph with my 2.5 ton Jeep SRT and almost 250 hp less, something is very wrong with the Challenger. 

    So right now I am still looking at the Ford Mustang GT 500 Shelby, the Camaro ZL1 or even the new Camaro Z28 (which has a great engine and great handling but straight-line performance is not really good).

    Decisions... 

    I like so much more the Mustang Shelby than Hellcat, it looks the real American muscle car while he Hellcat is a bit like the Ford Capri from the US Smiley even with 707hp doesn´t get my vote, go for Mustang Smiley

     


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    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Those cars will never have 4WD and they will never hit 60 at much less than 4.5 seconds - that is not the point.  They destroy tires in the first three gears!  That is the point.  I suppose you can add launch control that neuters the motor until 80 mph or so but why ruin the fun.  Ride it like a wild bull.  700 horse will be useable at speed and it will rocket you when it is.


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    RC:

    I hate open air festivals. I was at one once and me and my wife didn't know how to escape as soon as possible. So many people, the stinking smells of transpiration and vomit, music quality not really good (open airs tend to be loud but the sound is often horrible) and a couple of times, someone grabbed my wife's butt. Not really pleasant. Also got a kiss from a drunken woman, her breath smelled like shit. Didn't even see that coming, I hate these festivals.

    Smiley

    Must indeed be hilarious, taking you to a place where people are actually having fun.


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    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Porker:
    RC:

    I hate open air festivals. I was at one once and me and my wife didn't know how to escape as soon as possible. So many people, the stinking smells of transpiration and vomit, music quality not really good (open airs tend to be loud but the sound is often horrible) and a couple of times, someone grabbed my wife's butt. Not really pleasant. Also got a kiss from a drunken woman, her breath smelled like shit. Didn't even see that coming, I hate these festivals.

    Smiley

    Must indeed be hilarious, taking you to a place where people are actually having fun.

    If sweating and vomiting is your kind of fun, I'm happy we don't hang out. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    As I love the data of the Hellcat I never been a fan of the challenger. Here the same... I will wait for the opponents! Still have an eye onto the Stingray - the Corvette is a great car - at least has some myth behind he name, too!


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    I'm not even a big muscle car guy, but even this has me intrigued! How can you say no at that price??


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Hell of a car for that bucks! Soooo tempted! 

     


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Mike S:

    I'm not even a big muscle car guy, but even this has me intrigued! How can you say no at that price??

     

    Decoded: He bought one!! Smiley


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    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Whoopsy:
    Mike S:

    I'm not even a big muscle car guy, but even this has me intrigued! How can you say no at that price??

     

    Decoded: He bought one!! Smiley

    Smiley I can't say anything any more without insinuating a purchase Smiley


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Mike S:
    Whoopsy:
    Mike S:

    I'm not even a big muscle car guy, but even this has me intrigued! How can you say no at that price??

     

    Decoded: He bought one!! Smiley

    Smiley I can't say anything any more without insinuating a purchase Smiley

    Which color did you get? Smiley


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    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    The only real issue I have with the Challenger is the size of this car. It looks huge, the Mustang looks much more compact. Like I said...decisions .

    @Mike: Congratulations. smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived


    The only real issue I have with the Challenger is the size of this car. It looks huge, the Mustang looks much more compact. Like I said...decisions .

    For an all day drive...common here in the States , the Challenger will comfortably transport four big beefy American men and their luggage easily...the Mustang /Camero : two adults and two younger children 

    Jay Leno  comparing it to his  Hemi Challenger :

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MWMjR3r-nsI

     

     

     

     

     


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Geigercars (grey importer of US cars in Germany/Munich) has finally published prices for the Challenger SRT Hellcat. Between 71 and 73k EUR, full optioned at around 75-76k EUR. Two years warranty and 19% VAT included.

    Still leaning towards the 2014 Mustang GT 500 Shelby SVT. This car looks smaller and meaner...


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Mustang will be a much better choice RC!  They actually handle well.  Speaking of which - I helped my cousin (Ida) import a 69 Mustang convertible into Austria a few years ago.  That worked out great.  I'm certain it turns heads where she drives it.


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Charger Hellcat!

    Foxnews:

    Powered by the 707 horsepower 6.2-liter supercharged engine, the 2015 Charger SRT Hellcat can cover a quarter mile in 11 seconds flat and hit a top speed of 204 mph – laying claim to the titles of quickest and fastest sedan in the world.

    (Sorry, Porsche:)


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    So, this is a affordable, daily driver family sedan to bring your kids to school and driving grocery shopping kiss

     

     


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    The front is much nicer looking IMO, pity it's a 4door!


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Lars997:

    So, this is a affordable, daily driver family sedan to bring your kids to school and driving grocery shopping kiss

    No AWD. Smiley Also not a fan of the rear wing.

    I hope Chrysler is clever enough to offer a Hellcat version of the Jeep GC too. I'm afraid however that this isn't going to happen, for whatever (weird) reason. This car would sell very well.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    Leawood911:

    Mustang will be a much better choice RC!  They actually handle well.  Speaking of which - I helped my cousin (Ida) import a 69 Mustang convertible into Austria a few years ago.  That worked out great.  I'm certain it turns heads where she drives it.

    This car (Challenger Hellcat or Mustang GT500) would be a weekend fun car, for me and my son, for some drifting, crazy stuff fun on parking lots and deserted airport fields or race tracks. I'm not really caring about the handling (though the Mustang isn't bad at all but still far away from the razor sharp handling of a 991), more about the monster power of the engine. What kind of draws me towards the Mustang is also the fact that I could actually transform it, little by little, into a Super Snake. Add another 20k EUR and I get over 800 hp or even up to 900 hp and more. There are so many parts available on the market already, parts which are reliable and easily accessible.

    I am very inclined towards a black GT500 SVT but I still hesitate. This is still a lot of money and I have spent way too much for cars lately. Maybe I should take a brake but I don't want the new Mustang and the old one is going to be sold out (new) soon.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: The "Hellcat" has arrived

    The big negative on factory supercharged Mustangs is this: Heat. After several hard runs they lose some power because the cooling and the intercooler system were under engineered. SRT engineers claim the Hellcat motor is good for a solid half hour at full power with no HP loss from heat issues. Maybe Ford will fix that issue on the next version, but I wouldn't count on it yet.


     
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