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    Re: Panamera - Not a good start

    Some news about the weight read in another forum:

    Panamera Turbo with AWD and 7-gear-PDK: 1.950 kg
    Panamera V6 with RWD and manual: 1.780 kg


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    Re: Panamera - Not a good start

    Rossi:

    Some news about the weight read in another forum:

    Panamera Turbo with AWD and 7-gear-PDK: 1.950 kg
    Panamera V6 with RWD and manual: 1.780 kg


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            Considering its size and drivetrain (the PDK is inherently heavy and all-wheel-drive also adds at least 50 kg), this isn´t too bad. An RS6 weighs 150 kg more.


    Re: Panamera - Not a good start

    Rossi:

    Some news about the weight read in another forum:

    Panamera Turbo with AWD and 7-gear-PDK: 1.950 kg
    Panamera V6 with RWD and manual: 1.780 kg


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    If this turns out to be accurate I shall say WOW!!!! Smiley impressive.


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    that will result in some really great performance.....wow
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    Re: Panamera - Not a good start

    Rossi:

    Some news about the weight read in another forum:

    Panamera Turbo with AWD and 7-gear-PDK: 1.950 kg
    Panamera V6 with RWD and manual: 1.780 kg


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    Thats heavier than the Mercedes CLS (a brand not precisely known for its weight savings), if we are talking about unladen CE weights which I pressume, according to manufacturer, the CLS63AMG is 1910kg, while the V6 Panaera can be compared to the 292HP CLS 350CGI which is 1735Kg, and this with a heavy 7-gear torque converter tranny, not manual like the Pan V6.


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    My substitute P1080036.JPG
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    New Quattroporte Sport GTS. Delivered today. The sound is amazing.


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    Hatch does add weight.

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    Great substitute KF! Light car, sporty size! Like it!

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    A beautiful car Smiley Many congrats Smiley


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    Stylish and sporty, congrats KF Smiley
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    congrats KF 4porte is a beautiful car......i am sure however, that the panamera will be the better car....
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    Great choice KF, acutally the best choice you could make! Smiley
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    end of press-embargo this night,so tomorrow we will have interior pics,specs etc
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    hope to see something interesting...things that till now,i never find on the PanameraSmiley

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    Panamera S

    4.8 400cv DFI
    500nm
    0-100: 5.6s (5.4s PDK)
    285kmh  (283kmh PDK)
    12.5 l/100km (10.8 PDK)

    1.770kg
    94.500€





    Panamera 4S PDK

    4.8 400cv DFI
    500nm
    0-100: 5.0s
    282kmh
    11.1 l/100km

    1.860kg
    102.200€




    Panamera Turbo PDK
    4.8 500cv DFI
    500nm
    0-100: 4.2s
    303kmh
    12.2 l/100km

    1.970kg
    135.100€


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    Sorry guys, but I quite like this car!Smiley

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    I am in love and I think I made the the right choice on picking this car, the performance for the Turbo is great!


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    i finally found the word to best describe this car: teutonic
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    someone pls confirm that black thing on the center console is NOT a cupholder Smiley
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    I like the interior. 

    Three comments:

    1. - the cupholder looks really funny. Why to put it there. Instead they could have removed the gear shift and made it more to the front

    2. - the middle tunnel is to high for my taste

    3. - check the picture - it seems that this gauge is digital!

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     and ..... why to put black carpets in a creme colored interior? Does this make it bi-colored???


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    Enzo911:

    Panamera S

    4.8 400cv DFI
    500nm
    0-100: 5.6s (5.4s PDK)
    285kmh  (283kmh PDK)
    12.5 l/100km (10.8 PDK)

    1.770kg
    94.500€





    Panamera 4S PDK

    4.8 400cv DFI
    500nm
    0-100: 5.0s
    282kmh
    11.1 l/100km

    1.860kg
    102.200€




    Panamera Turbo PDK
    4.8 500cv DFI
    500nm
    0-100: 4.2s
    303kmh
    12.2 l/100km

    1.970kg
    135.100€


            BTW, it is 700Nm for Turbo. BUT, IMO 4.2s is not possible for 2T car with 500ps/700Nm-PDK or not.

    ...and Price is as high as RC correctly pointed out. With nice option Panamera Turbo is at 155K € level in Germany(with Mwst.).


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    KresoF1:
    Enzo911:

    Panamera S

    4.8 400cv DFI
    500nm
    0-100: 5.6s (5.4s PDK)
    285kmh  (283kmh PDK)
    12.5 l/100km (10.8 PDK)

    1.770kg
    94.500€





    Panamera 4S PDK

    4.8 400cv DFI
    500nm
    0-100: 5.0s
    282kmh
    11.1 l/100km

    1.860kg
    102.200€




    Panamera Turbo PDK
    4.8 500cv DFI
    500nm
    0-100: 4.2s
    303kmh
    12.2 l/100km

    1.970kg
    135.100€


            BTW, it is 700Nm for Turbo. BUT, IMO 4.2s is not possible for 2T car with 500ps/700Nm-PDK or not.

    ...and Price is as high as RC correctly pointed out. With nice option Panamera Turbo is at 155K € level in Germany(with Mwst.).

    4.2 for the Turbo would be extreemly fast . Lets see what the next numbers will say .

            


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    Way to expensive I would say!

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    Lars997:
    Way to expensive I would say!
    And these are the base prices and we all know Porsche's option philosophy... Smiley

            


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    Re: Panamera - Not a good start

    Since when are 4WD versions (0.4 seconds) faster than their RWD counterparts?

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    Rossi:
    Lars997:
    Way to expensive I would say!
    And these are the base prices and we all know Porsche's option philosophy... Smiley


    That is exactly what I mean. A PanameraS is would easily go up to 125 k€. For this I can get a decent 7series and a 1series on top!


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    neunelf:
    Since when are 4WD versions (0.4 seconds) faster than their RWD counterparts?

            Yupp - I seen that to. There must be something wrong with it. 0.4 seconds is a lot!


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    Wohoo 0-100km/is blistering fast for a car that size, and remember that Porsche are often a tiny bit conservative with their figures so it wouldn't surprise me if some magazines will be able to clock 4.1 seconds. Now where is the order guide since I suspect that the cars will come pretty loaded at those prices, though the dummy buttons will leave room for upgrading.

    Re: Panamera - Official Pictures & Specs

    With sports chrono package the car perform the following

    Panamera S: 0-100km/h 5.2sec
    Panamera 4S: 0-100km/h 4.8sec
    Panamera Turbo: 0-100km/h 4.0sec

     
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