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    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    ....But this new system only started after Le Mans.

    The Fords (rightly so) have gone up by 20Kg from 1253kg to 1273kg and the Aston Martin's got a 20Kg weight break taking them down to 1188kg

    Porsche and Ferrari stayed the same.

     


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    I certainly don't want to pick a fight with you as the resident expert on these minute details, but for the next race in Mexico, the Ferrari is at 1273 (plus 5), the Ford at 1271, the RSR at 1258 and the Aston at 1186 (minus 2). The RSR and the AM were given a 0.1 mm restrictor break because of the altitude, which affects NA cars much more than turbos.


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    I was giving you the current (Nurburgring) BoP not the one for Mexico. 

    I am interested to see how 0.1mm restrictor is going to help the non turbo's cope.

    The AM weight at 1186 (72Kg lighter than the RSR and 87 Kg lighter than Ferrari) is a prime example of one of the many issues I have with the system. It's a huge weight break that really skews reality.

    We never fight. We just have differences of opinion.SmileySmiley

     


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    Exactly. Truly enjoy exchanging views with youwink


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    Spyderidol:

    I am interested to see how 0.1mm restrictor is going to help the non turbo's cope.

    That seems like an extremely modest change, barely worth the effort...


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    Grant:
    Spyderidol:

    I am interested to see how 0.1mm restrictor is going to help the non turbo's cope.

    That seems like an extremely modest change, barely worth the effort...

    Yes, I'm not convinced it will make a noticeable difference. My money is on Ford. The Mexico market is of huge importance to them. Please excuse the cynicism.


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    https://porscheracingusa.com/race-information/

     I have signed up for this package with my son. I'm posting this for anyone else's interest. 


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     Interview, Michael Steiner, Member of the Executive Board Research and Development at Porsche

    https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/motorsports/porsche-formula-e-michael-steiner-development-interview-motorsport-realignment-14059.html


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    1505499920841IMG_3717.JPGAt WEC race in Austin Texas. My son with Nick Tandy


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    Cool!


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    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    Porsche on pole 1 and 2, Toyota 3,4.  Six hour race tomorrow.


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    Fantastic pole by the LMP1 squad. The RSR is last in GTE-pro. Porsche claims they did not go for times in qual...which is a real indicator that they knew the car did not have the speed. So sad to see.


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    RSR running 2nd at 3 hour mark. In LMP1, Porsche 1,2 but Toyota close.  Tire strategy in hot conditions will decide winner.


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    Porsche will win 1,2  LMP1.  RSR will place second in GT Pro.


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    Tighter race than Porsche expected, after dominating in Mexico.  Porsche led most of the way in LMP1, but Toyota was always within striking distance.  RSR was second and competitive in GT Pro, but did not have the speed to match the winning Ferrari.  Will post some pics tomorrow...


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    Agreed, tighter race than expected in LMP1. In GTE Pro, the RSR never quite had the speed to stay with the leading AM and Ferraris during the early stages and with the winning Ferrari later in the race. Still, not a bad result. But they will have to up their game for 2018 and I am not sure the RSR as a platform has enough potential for that...


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    olli:

    Agreed, tighter race than expected in LMP1. In GTE Pro, the RSR never quite had the speed to stay with the leading AM and Ferraris during the early stages and with the winning Ferrari later in the race. Still, not a bad result. But they will have to up their game for 2018 and I am not sure the RSR as a platform has enough potential for that...

    Agreed 100%


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

     I don't doubt that Porsche can pass AM next year, but Ferrari is another matter. The racing silhouette of the Ferrari platform seems aerodynamically superior. But I always bet on Porsche, especially the factory teams.


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    Wonderbar,

    I was at the Austin race with my wife and really enjoyed it. Sorry I missed meeting you as I had not read your post until after the race. We were also in the Porsche Hospitality suite and I recognized your son from the pic posted. I'm considering Atl. and will let you know if we attend. It certainly seems that the RSR's were at a power/torque deficit in spite of the BOP provided in Austin. Learning a lot from the discussion on this thread, though it has moved from your original post. Hope to see you at an upcoming race.wink


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    Thanks Nelson!  A few pics form the race...cota rsr.jpgcota blue car.jpg
    cota #1 919.jpg
    cota girl with car.jpg
    cota hartley with espresso.jpg


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    https://www.porsche.com/usa/eventsandracing/motorsport/worksracing/raceseries/fiawec/

    My son and I at 28 secs into the video.  Scroll down to Media Center and click on first video   Great trip together...


    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    That's cool Wonderbar! Nice father-son time to spend! And nice to put a face to the name too :-)


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    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    Joost:

    That's cool Wonderbar! Nice father-son time to spend! And nice to put a face to the name too :-)

    Smiley I wish my father was still here to do a similar trip with him but unfortunately... Smiley

    Great photo and great son, Sydney...enjoy every single moment with that handsome young man. Smiley Smiley


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    Re: WEC Race in Austin, Texas

    Thanks guys, wonderful to share memories and experiences with longtime, great sports car enthusiasts like you around the world.wink


     
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