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    Mar 14, 2017 1:59:08 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    RC:
    Topspeed:

    Performante or updated SV

    I rather think updated SV with Performante active aero. 760 or 770 hp?
    Should be interesting because such a car could potentially break their Huracan Perfomante's Nordschleife "record". 

    I just remembered.  A while ago, someone love at LP said that during either 2018 or 2019, lambo would be bringing out a aventador GTR or aventador LM with around 800hp as their show car.  So maybe this is that?

    Mar 14, 2017 2:04:39 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    Lambo loves their Aventador special editions (if you can call it that...) but a facelifted SV would also fit the profile.


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    Mar 14, 2017 3:32:45 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    throt:
    Whoopsy:
    bluelines:

    I don't count the 991.2 GT3, but the fact that the R is a 991.1 and that the 991.2 has been sold for a long time before the first R was delivered. 

     

    And I had been saying the R is a parts bin special beta car for a while...........

     

    Its just hard to see where it sits within the variants now the gen2 GT3 is available in manual. Porsche is milking the 991 last runs big time but its over the top now imo....Smiley.......

     

    Consider it the same category as the Sports Classic......

    But at least it contribute a manual gearbox to the GT3.


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    Mar 14, 2017 10:45:05 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    Whoopsy:
    bluelines:

    I don't count the 991.2 GT3, but the fact that the R is a 991.1 and that the 991.2 has been sold for a long time before the first R was delivered. 

    And I had been saying the R is a parts bin special beta car for a while...........

    +1


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    Mar 14, 2017 11:36:23 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    bluelines:
    Whoopsy:
    bluelines:

    I don't count the 991.2 GT3, but the fact that the R is a 991.1 and that the 991.2 has been sold for a long time before the first R was delivered. 

    And I had been saying the R is a parts bin special beta car for a while...........

    +1

    +0

    I'm neutral on the subject.

    Mar 15, 2017 9:17:28 AM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    noone1:
    bluelines:
    Whoopsy:
    bluelines:

    I don't count the 991.2 GT3, but the fact that the R is a 991.1 and that the 991.2 has been sold for a long time before the first R was delivered. 

    And I had been saying the R is a parts bin special beta car for a while...........

    +1

    +0

    I'm neutral on the subject.

    Hallelujah... Smiley Smiley


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    Mar 15, 2017 11:08:31 AM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    RC:
    noone1:
    bluelines:
    Whoopsy:
    bluelines:

    I don't count the 991.2 GT3, but the fact that the R is a 991.1 and that the 991.2 has been sold for a long time before the first R was delivered. 

    And I had been saying the R is a parts bin special beta car for a while...........

    +1

    +0

    I'm neutral on the subject.

    Hallelujah... Smiley Smiley

    SmileySmiley


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    Mar 15, 2017 1:26:29 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    RC:
    noone1:
    bluelines:
    Whoopsy:
    bluelines:

    I don't count the 991.2 GT3, but the fact that the R is a 991.1 and that the 991.2 has been sold for a long time before the first R was delivered. 

    And I had been saying the R is a parts bin special beta car for a while...........

    +1

    +0

    I'm neutral on the subject.

    Hallelujah... Smiley Smiley

     

    Hmm he actually did a -1, that's why the count is back to 0!Smiley


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    Mar 16, 2017 3:02:23 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    Nick, have u had chance to drive ur 964? heard lots of snow in vancouver

    Mar 16, 2017 6:30:44 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    martini964:

    Nick, have u had chance to drive ur 964? heard lots of snow in vancouver

     

    Not yet. It is waiting for parts from Porsche Classic.

    When my mechanic open up the car for service, we realized the car was in fantastically original condition, so I am using original Porsche parts to finish up the last bit of restoration.


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    Mar 16, 2017 9:22:01 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    The farmer:

    +1kiss

    +2.

    Mar 16, 2017 9:23:02 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    bluelines:
    Whoopsy:
    bluelines:

    I don't count the 991.2 GT3, but the fact that the R is a 991.1 and that the 991.2 has been sold for a long time before the first R was delivered. 

    And I had been saying the R is a parts bin special beta car for a while...........

    +1

    +2.  And slow and overpriced on top of that.

    Mar 16, 2017 10:30:52 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    Ziggy:
    bluelines:
    Whoopsy:
    bluelines:

    I don't count the 991.2 GT3, but the fact that the R is a 991.1 and that the 991.2 has been sold for a long time before the first R was delivered. 

    And I had been saying the R is a parts bin special beta car for a while...........

    +1

    +2.  And slow and overpriced on top of that.

     

    To be fair, at MSRP it is not that much overpriced...............

    My R was about 15k CAD above what I had paid for my GT3RS. About 7k of that was from the black color which is STANDARD PORSCHE NON METALLIC BLACK! Another 3k or so was for the 3M stripes and graphics, plus another 6k for the painted wheels. 

    So if I skipped all those custom items my R would have been 1k cheaper than my RS. 

     

     

     


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    Mar 17, 2017 6:43:29 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    Well, it's technically under-priced considering the premiums people will pay for it.

    Mar 20, 2017 8:40:46 AM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    Most cars are overpriced in CAD anyway.

    Mar 23, 2017 3:05:25 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    Got this from TeamSpeed. Lets see how it pans out.

    2016.06.26 you WROTE:
    * 800 HP - and more torque.
    * Lamborghini's new "Doppia Frizione" - Dual Clutch gearbox.
    * Lamborghini Infotainment System, with TFT virtual cockpit display like in the Huracán. 
    * ANIMA (Adaptive Network Intelligent Management).
    * Lamborghini Piattaforma Inerziale (LPI)
    * "LDS - Lamborghini Dynamic Steering"

     

     
    For the Aventador S - LP 740-4 it is like my friend Hong-Gi says: 740 ps.

    For the Aventador GT/GT-R - LP 800-4: 800 ps. 

     

    Mar 23, 2017 7:24:10 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    kingjr9000:

    Got this from TeamSpeed. Lets see how it pans out.

    2016.06.26 you WROTE:
    * 800 HP - and more torque.
    * Lamborghini's new "Doppia Frizione" - Dual Clutch gearbox.
    * Lamborghini Infotainment System, with TFT virtual cockpit display like in the Huracán. 
    * ANIMA (Adaptive Network Intelligent Management).
    * Lamborghini Piattaforma Inerziale (LPI)
    * "LDS - Lamborghini Dynamic Steering"

     

     
    For the Aventador S - LP 740-4 it is like my friend Hong-Gi says: 740 ps.

    For the Aventador GT/GT-R - LP 800-4: 800 ps. 

     

    The new Doppia Frizione is probably based on a Porsche unit, which is only good news.  This transmission, then, may find its way into some of the Audi products, most notably, the larger RS models.  The Lamborghini Piattaforma Inerziale, coupled with ANIMA, are essential components for the Aerodinamica Lamborghini Attiva, or ALA system found on the Performante.  This could really make the big Lamborghini handle to match its aggressive looks.  It is a great time to be an automobile enthusiast!

    Mar 23, 2017 10:03:15 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    Will believe an Aventador dct when I see it. I don't expect dct until it's replaced. They didn't update the lp560 to dct even though they updated the old R8. They will save dct for the replacement imo. The current facelift already got rws. They need to save some tricks for the next gen...

    Mar 24, 2017 10:23:41 AM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    CGX car nut:
    kingjr9000:

    Got this from TeamSpeed. Lets see how it pans out.

    2016.06.26 you WROTE:
    * 800 HP - and more torque.
    * Lamborghini's new "Doppia Frizione" - Dual Clutch gearbox.
    * Lamborghini Infotainment System, with TFT virtual cockpit display like in the Huracán. 
    * ANIMA (Adaptive Network Intelligent Management).
    * Lamborghini Piattaforma Inerziale (LPI)
    * "LDS - Lamborghini Dynamic Steering"

     

     
    For the Aventador S - LP 740-4 it is like my friend Hong-Gi says: 740 ps.

    For the Aventador GT/GT-R - LP 800-4: 800 ps. 

     

    The new Doppia Frizione is probably based on a Porsche unit, which is only good news.  This transmission, then, may find its way into some of the Audi products, most notably, the larger RS models.  The Lamborghini Piattaforma Inerziale, coupled with ANIMA, are essential components for the Aerodinamica Lamborghini Attiva, or ALA system found on the Performante.  This could really make the big Lamborghini handle to match its aggressive looks.  It is a great time to be an automobile enthusiast!

    The DCT in the Huracan has nothing to do with Porsche, it is actually a system built by Graziano Oerlikon, McLaren and other companies use this as well. Not Porsche!!! I assume that Lamborghini uses the same manufacturer for the Aventador because Graziano Oerlikon is specialized on limited production units for high performance cars.

    Not even the PDK-S is as fast as the DCT in the Huracan, just saying. Smiley


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    Mar 24, 2017 10:25:46 AM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    noone1:

    Will believe an Aventador dct when I see it. I don't expect dct until it's replaced. They didn't update the lp560 to dct even though they updated the old R8. They will save dct for the replacement imo. The current facelift already got rws. They need to save some tricks for the next gen...

    I agree. Why would they offer DCT in a special ed model but not in the facelift?!

    I rather think that DCT will make it's appearance in the next generation where the V12 will be combined with some sort of hybrid. Makes much more sense since it requires a lot of adaptation development work.


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    Mar 24, 2017 1:23:33 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    RC:
    CGX car nut:
    kingjr9000:

    Got this from TeamSpeed. Lets see how it pans out.

    2016.06.26 you WROTE:
    * 800 HP - and more torque.
    * Lamborghini's new "Doppia Frizione" - Dual Clutch gearbox.
    * Lamborghini Infotainment System, with TFT virtual cockpit display like in the Huracán. 
    * ANIMA (Adaptive Network Intelligent Management).
    * Lamborghini Piattaforma Inerziale (LPI)
    * "LDS - Lamborghini Dynamic Steering"

     

     
    For the Aventador S - LP 740-4 it is like my friend Hong-Gi says: 740 ps.

    For the Aventador GT/GT-R - LP 800-4: 800 ps. 

     

    The new Doppia Frizione is probably based on a Porsche unit, which is only good news.  This transmission, then, may find its way into some of the Audi products, most notably, the larger RS models.  The Lamborghini Piattaforma Inerziale, coupled with ANIMA, are essential components for the Aerodinamica Lamborghini Attiva, or ALA system found on the Performante.  This could really make the big Lamborghini handle to match its aggressive looks.  It is a great time to be an automobile enthusiast!

    The DCT in the Huracan has nothing to do with Porsche, it is actually a system built by Graziano Oerlikon, McLaren and other companies use this as well. Not Porsche!!! I assume that Lamborghini uses the same manufacturer for the Aventador because Graziano Oerlikon is specialized on limited production units for high performance cars.

    Not even the PDK-S is as fast as the DCT in the Huracan, just saying. Smiley


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    Never wrote the transmissions are the same.  Instead, wrote that Porsche has the new PDK box used in the Panamera that could be "recased" for use in the Aventador.   The eight speed Porsche box can be readily adapted to the Urus as well.  

    Mar 24, 2017 1:58:37 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    Only the next generation will share tech between the brands. Current Aventador platform has nothing to do with Porsche.


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    Mar 25, 2017 1:07:32 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    RC:

    Only the next generation will share tech between the brands. Current Aventador platform has nothing to do with Porsche.

    Never stated that the current model shares components with Porsche; however, it doesn't mean that this will continue, even with the current model as updates, i.e., new variants, are added.  

    Mar 27, 2017 9:00:29 AM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    CGX car nut:
    RC:

    Only the next generation will share tech between the brands. Current Aventador platform has nothing to do with Porsche.

    Never stated that the current model shares components with Porsche; however, it doesn't mean that this will continue, even with the current model as updates, i.e., new variants, are added.  

    Porsche is, as far as I know, already involved with development of sportscars in the VW Group (this includes Lamborghini and Audi, rumors also indicate Bentley (certain models only), not so sure about Bugatti though). There are no shared parts though yet because the platforms aren't compatible. Current Huracan/R8 and Aventador platforms will not be continued with the next generation.


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    Oct 5, 2017 11:21:31 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKlf2QglJiM

     

    Oct 6, 2017 12:40:39 AM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    Still prefer the 2012 Coupe design best, but nonetheless the Aventador stands as one of the most masculine and aggressive designs in decades.

    If only they could get the weight down 500 lbs...

    Oct 6, 2017 9:01:47 AM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    noone1:

    Still prefer the 2012 Coupe design best, but nonetheless the Aventador stands as one of the most masculine and aggressive designs in decades.

    If only they could get the weight down 500 lbs...

    The weight isn't really the problem...visibility is, the interior room is also quite cramped (if you are a "big" guy) and the worst thing on this car is actually the transmission and there is no chance of getting a tranny similar to the Huracan on this model, only with the next generation I'm afraid.


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    Oct 10, 2017 12:22:16 AM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9oBBzuV9q4

     

    Oct 10, 2017 8:11:19 AM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    A friend of mine who owns an Aventador (actually the only one here in my town, I posted a photo once with my son next to it) says that the Aventador is a connoisseur's driver car but not a car to achieve maximum performance in it. He is right. The Aventador may not be as fast as a McLaren 720S but it is one of the most beautiful sportscars ever built and a treat to drive if you enjoy the drive itself.


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    Oct 10, 2017 12:08:32 PM

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    Re: Aventador and SV

    RC:

    A friend of mine who owns an Aventador (actually the only one here in my town, I posted a photo once with my son next to it) says that the Aventador is a connoisseur's driver car but not a car to achieve maximum performance in it. He is right. The Aventador may not be as fast as a McLaren 720S but it is one of the most beautiful sportscars ever built and a treat to drive if you enjoy the drive itself.

    Last month I went to a track with our Lamborghini club . The president if the club came with two Aventador SV and one Huracan . He also said the Aventador is not made for doing fast laps . It was not about the 700 HP . That he owned this car for other reasons .


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