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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Thanks, well explained. That's how I felt driving GT4, a 991.2 C2S. and C4S recently. I know the 911 is quicker, and when left in auto, the PDK is amazing, though it takes away some of the fun of driving. I also love the GT4's gearbox, and the rev matching is ton of fun when driving through an underpass. indecision 

    I'm not sure if it was the tires, but the GT4 felt a bit more playful in the rear than the C2S as well. I had more confidence in hard corners in the 911s than I did in the GT4, but maybe that will come with familiarity. The choice for me at the moment is the C2S or a GT4. I felt the C2S to be the more exciting car over the C4S for reasons I can't really explain. They were similarly equipped, and both had PDK and PSE.

    The GT4 feels like the perfect weekend backroad car, with the occasional short road trip in the cards (when we can do that again), and the 911s felt more civilized, and more practical, marginally. I think you would need to drive them harder to get near the same level of fun that the GT4 offers and that can cause it's own problems.


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    JoeRockhead:

    Thanks, well explained. That's how I felt driving GT4, a 991.2 C2S. and C4S recently. I know the 911 is quicker, and when left in auto, the PDK is amazing, though it takes away some of the fun of driving. I also love the GT4's gearbox, and the rev matching is ton of fun when driving through an underpass. indecision 

    Yes, significantly quicker since you just have to floor the pedal, the PDK and the turbos do the rest Smiley A real kick in the 991.2, but the fun wears off. Especially in Switzerland where you cannot keep that foot planted for more than 3-4 seconds and then you have no license or make a visit to prison Smiley 

    The mechanical feel of the GT4 gearbox is great. Short throw and very direct. The rev matching is indeed lots of fun Smiley I am also happy to be back in a car that does not produce fake pops and crackles on the overrun. I more or less stopped driving the GTS in Sport mode and only drove it in Sport Plus. Those “farts” in Sport mode when downshifting were embarrassing. 

    JoeRockhead:

    I'm not sure if it was the tires, but the GT4 felt a bit more playful in the rear than the C2S as well. I had more confidence in hard corners in the 911s than I did in the GT4, but maybe that will come with familiarity. The choice for me at the moment is the C2S or a GT4. I felt the C2S to be the more exciting car over the C4S for reasons I can't really explain. They were similarly equipped, and both had PDK and PSE.

    The GT4 does feel more playful. I had the same experience when driving it. Could partly be down to “feeling” due to the stiffer suspension, because I did not throw it around that hard yet. 

    Did you try a 991.1 C2S too? Not the same torque, but maybe a bit more direct response.

    JoeRockhead:

    The GT4 feels like the perfect weekend backroad car, with the occasional short road trip in the cards (when we can do that again), and the 911s felt more civilized, and more practical, marginally. I think you would need to drive them harder to get near the same level of fun that the GT4 offers and that can cause it's own problems.

    Yes, agree.


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    bluelines:
     

    Did you try a 991.1 C2S too? Not the same torque, but maybe a bit more direct response.

    No I did not, but they have a couple of them on the lot. They also have a 718 GTS Cayman and Boxster, both well equipped with low mileage - but both are PDK. I haven't driven a Boxster since I had my 986 S somewhere around 16 years ago angry, but I loved the handling of that car, even if it was underpowered. I imagine the new models have taken care of that problem.

    Also, it seems that the C2S I drove was equipped with PASM, while the C4S was not. I don't think that entirely explains why I liked the C2S much more than the C4S, but likely contributed to it.


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Well I finally found one that ticks all the boxes. And it's white. indecision Working on a deal with the OPC, will post pics if/when it arrives.


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    I saw a nice 991.2 C2S cab last week - started conversation with OPC  but he went quiet after sending me personal video - seems to have sold now. UK market is quite hot right now - hope you get the deal you want!


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    JoeRockhead:

    Well I finally found one that ticks all the boxes. And it's white. indecision Working on a deal with the OPC, will post pics if/when it arrives.

    White is perfect. Smiley Smiley

    IMG_4829.jpg


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    RC:
    JoeRockhead:

    Well I finally found one that ticks all the boxes. And it's white. indecision Working on a deal with the OPC, will post pics if/when it arrives.

    White is perfect. Smiley Smiley

    IMG_4829.jpg

    This one is white with black wheels as well. Smiley


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    bridggar:

    I saw a nice 991.2 C2S cab last week - started conversation with OPC  but he went quiet after sending me personal video - seems to have sold now. UK market is quite hot right now - hope you get the deal you want!

    Hear from some UK dealers that they are having record mthly sales after the reopening....


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    996FourEss:
    bridggar:

    I saw a nice 991.2 C2S cab last week - started conversation with OPC  but he went quiet after sending me personal video - seems to have sold now. UK market is quite hot right now - hope you get the deal you want!

    Hear from some UK dealers that they are having record mthly sales after the reopening....

    My sales rep sold 3 cars on Saturday alone, including a Targa order. People are buying cars, that's for sure.


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    The local Mercedes-Benz, BMW, and Audi dealership hardly have any inventory left; however, the lower priced auto dealers are having some difficulties selling crossovers and cars.  Pickup truck sales and SUV sales remain very strong too.  

    In the States, those earning under $40,000 are the most negatively impacted by the shutdown and even those jobs are slowly returning.  Real Estate remains strong so the recovery is happening quicker than many anticipated.  


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    JoeRockhead:

    Well I finally found one that ticks all the boxes. And it's white. indecision Working on a deal with the OPC, will post pics if/when it arrives.

    SmileySmileySmiley


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Done deal. wink

    <------- Here's a pic. indecision


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    kiss


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    kiss But you will to show us some better pics ! 


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Congrats Joe! kisswink


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Thanks everyone. I pick it up this weekend, and definitely will post better pics.
     

    @bridggar: thanks, I did get a good deal. Prices across the country varied by almost $30k. Some private sellers have  unrealistic expectations on values, asking much more than the OPCs, with little to no warranty remaining and the 4 year service due. It’s a strange market right now.


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    JoeRockhead:

    Thanks everyone. I pick it up this weekend, and definitely will post better pics.
     

    @bridggar: thanks, I did get a good deal. Prices across the country varied by almost $30k. Some private sellers have  unrealistic expectations on values, asking much more than the OPCs, with little to no warranty remaining and the 4 year service due. It’s a strange market right now.

    Market for buyers. So many sellers are tied up with debts against the cars hence still high asking price. Let few weeks / months do the magic and price will decrease further. 


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    2021 Porsche 718 Debuts With 7-Speed PDK For GT4, Spyder, And GTS 4.0


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Topspeed:

    2021 Porsche 718 Debuts With 7-Speed PDK For GT4, Spyder, And GTS 4.0

    GTS 4.0 configurator finally available for the U.S. market.  Availability begins in the fall for manual equipped cars and spring for those with PDK.  In other words, mine will sit in the garage through the winter.  


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    not so long before the 4RS arrives now smiley


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    CGX car nut:
    Topspeed:

    2021 Porsche 718 Debuts With 7-Speed PDK For GT4, Spyder, And GTS 4.0

    GTS 4.0 configurator finally available for the U.S. market.  Availability begins in the fall for manual equipped cars and spring for those with PDK.  In other words, mine will sit in the garage through the winter.  

    Tempting....GT-4 PDK. 


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    No mention of PDK-S for GT models?


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    No specs on eurpean website, still.


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    JoeRockhead:

    Prices across the country varied by almost $30k.

    In a 2 km2 country SmileySmiley


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    JoeRockhead:

    Done deal. wink

    <------- Here's a pic. indecision

    Congrats Smiley, sorry...overlooked this. 

    Yours is now officially the fastest GT4 here, white and black wheels...it can't get faster. Smiley


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Gnil:
    JoeRockhead:

    Prices across the country varied by almost $30k.

    In a 2 km2 country SmileySmiley

    Smiley


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    RC:
    JoeRockhead:

    Done deal. wink

    <------- Here's a pic. indecision

    Congrats Smiley, sorry...overlooked this. 

    Yours is now officially the fastest GT4 here, white and black wheels...it can't get faster. Smiley

    That’s what I’ve been lead to believe. Smiley


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Congrats, always a great car, enjoying mine for more than 4 years now. However, we will be a family of three this winter and I am wondering if I will still have time to use the car, lets see...

     


    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Josef:

    Congrats, always a great car, enjoying mine for more than 4 years now. However, we will be a family of three this winter and I am wondering if I will still have time to use the car, lets see...

    You will have time, maybe not immediately but you will... Smiley Actually, it will be a great stress reliever. 

    I won't congrats you yet...daddy. Smiley 


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    Re: Cayman GT4 & 718 Spyder -- Pistonheads review

    Josef:

    Congrats, always a great car, enjoying mine for more than 4 years now. However, we will be a family of three this winter and I am wondering if I will still have time to use the car, lets see...

     

    What happened to Bluelines ?  Got the baby(s),  Sold the GT4 , got the Audi , waited 4 years, bought back a GT4 in a slower color Smiley Good luck Smiley


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